Duleep Trophy

[Lord]

Arshdeep not selected in any squads? Then how were they talking about him in BGT. It was all a rumor it seems

[singhvivek141]

9 minutes ago, Lord said:

Arshdeep not selected in any squads? Then how were they talking about him in BGT. It was all a rumor it seems

He is in Team "D"

[AKane]

7 hours ago, express bowling said:

Mayank .. Tall .. recovering from injury 

Anybody hear anything in detail about this guy?

 

It seems they want to keep him tightly under control and wraps ..... for whatever reasons.

[Need4Speed]

2 hours ago, AKane said:

Anybody hear anything in detail about this guy?

 

It seems they want to keep him tightly under control and wraps ..... for whatever reasons.

someone uploaded video 3 day ago..hopefully its a fresh one..not old..for just views..

 

 

[zaqw222222]

If Mayank Yadav is fit and is not selected for any of the squad, then the only reason I can think of is that they want Yadav to be introduced in short format first, play some matches and then gradually introduce him in longer format

[vishalvirsingh]

On 8/14/2024 at 6:02 PM, Lone Wolf said:

Decent enough squads.... End of the road for likes of Saini and Kuldeep Sen though and perhaps Tyagi

i trust these 3 must be unfit else on capability ..karthik tyagi/kuldeep sen/navdeep saini definitely should be in one of the teams if not in team A

[vishalvirsingh]

45 minutes ago, zaqw222222 said:

If Mayank Yadav is fit and is not selected for any of the squad, then the only reason I can think of is that they want Yadav to be introduced in short format first, play some matches and then gradually introduce him in longer format

read some where he is recovering and though he is bowling , his fitness is not declared yet.

 

unless NCA medical staff are sure of his fitness they wont give a GREEN SIGNAL. 

Normally medical physio are over cautious and ask for some serious tests before they declare him fully fit.

[tapandrun]

22 minutes ago, vishalvirsingh said:

i trust these 3 must be unfit else on capability ..karthik tyagi/kuldeep sen/navdeep saini definitely should be in one of the teams if not in team A

saini is no longer in BCCI plans, Sen just had a surgery and Tyagi has done nothing to be selected.

[vishalvirsingh]

12 hours ago, express bowling said:

Teamwise  Pace Attacks ....

 

 

A ....

 

Akashdeep

Prasidh

Khaleel

Avesh

Kaverappa

 

B ....

 

Siraj

Dayal 

Mukesh

Awasti

Reddy A/R

 

C ....

 

Umran

Himanshu

Warrier

Vyshak

Khamboj

 

D ....

 

Harshit 

Arshdeep

Deshpande

Thakre

Sengupta  A/R 

I am excited about  the below Pacers and will try to read thru their performances and even watch their bowling if I can-

 

Team A- I am interested in  Akashdeep- he is already marked in as a 4th INDIA Pacer for tests and he has to repeat the performance he showed in tests.

Prasidh- he is a straight PICK into INDIA's BEST 5 Pacer if he is in full form and bowling 135 to 147k- but the million dollar question is is he trundling or is he bowling fast?

Khaleel- I guess Khaleel is competing with Arshdeep and lets see who performs better in a 4 day match.

Kaverappa- his line n length is the BEST and that's one reason - if Mayank is not fit for Australia , I feel selectors may pick him along with Akash deep ( along with siraj,boom,shammi)

I'm not interested in AVESH as I like his bouncers but his overall bowling is not International standards now - he regularly bowls 127 to 139K now and I only like his bouncers.

Team B-

..Interested in -

1. Siraj
2. Reddy A/R

Not interested in 

Dayal - don't think he is good enough to be among the first 6 to 7 INDIA Pacers -Khaleel and arshdeep are better than him.

Mukesh- no comments

Awasti- he plays for Mumbai and TUSHAR is a much better and faster pacer than him , not good enough to play for INDIA.

Team C-

Interested in 

1. Umran- Hope he gets wickets and challenges Mayank for Australia's Super fast bowler slot.
2. Himanshu Chauhan- I am reading he is a 145k Pacer and has some serious talent- can he be the one?

Not interested in

1. Warrier- he is still 130 to 138K but still I think not good enough to challenge the best Pacers.
2. Vyshak- I understand he is a ODI /t20 run controlling pacer - don't think he is good enough to be among the best INDIA 7 Pacers.
3. Khamboj- Heard good things about him but  feel at least this year he is not going to make many heads turn

Team D

Interested in 

1. Harshit - is 130 to 146k...many are calling him the next Kapil or Hardik, seems he bats well too.
2. Tushar deshpande- bowls 130 to 146k but is a tail ender- he is Mumbai's best pacer and has the talent to play for INDIA.

Not Interested -

1. Arshdeep- highly skilled but lacks stamina 
2. Thakre- seems a domestic AR, trundling and batting.
3. Sengupta  A/R - not heard much about him too.

[Need4Speed]

5 minutes ago, vishalvirsingh said:

I am excited about  the below Pacers and will try to read thru their performances and even watch their bowling if I can-

 

Team A- I am interested in  Akashdeep- he is already marked in as a 4th INDIA Pacer for tests and he has to repeat the performance he showed in tests.

Prasidh- he is a straight PICK into INDIA's BEST 5 Pacer if he is in full form and bowling 135 to 147k- but the million dollar question is is he trundling or is he bowling fast?

Khaleel- I guess Khaleel is competing with Arshdeep and lets see who performs better in a 4 day match.

Kaverappa- his line n length is the BEST and that's one reason - if Mayank is not fit for Australia , I feel selectors may pick him along with Akash deep ( along with siraj,boom,shammi)

I'm not interested in AVESH as I like his bouncers but his overall bowling is not International standards now - he regularly bowls 127 to 139K now and I only like his bouncers.

Team B-

..Interested in -

1. Siraj
2. Reddy A/R

Not interested in 

Dayal - don't think he is good enough to be among the first 6 to 7 INDIA Pacers -Khaleel and arshdeep are better than him.

Mukesh- no comments

Awasti- he plays for Mumbai and TUSHAR is a much better and faster pacer than him , not good enough to play for INDIA.

Team C-

Interested in 

1. Umran- Hope he gets wickets and challenges Mayank for Australia's Super fast bowler slot.
2. Himanshu Chauhan- I am reading he is a 145k Pacer and has some serious talent- can he be the one?

Not interested in

1. Warrier- he is still 130 to 138K but still I think not good enough to challenge the best Pacers.
2. Vyshak- I understand he is a ODI /t20 run controlling pacer - don't think he is good enough to be among the best INDIA 7 Pacers.
3. Khamboj- Heard good things about him but  feel at least this year he is not going to make many heads turn

Team D

Interested in 

1. Harshit - is 130 to 146k...many are calling him the next Kapil or Hardik, seems he bats well too.
2. Tushar deshpande- bowls 130 to 146k but is a tail ender- he is Mumbai's best pacer and has the talent to play for INDIA.

Not Interested -

1. Arshdeep- highly skilled but lacks stamina 
2. Thakre- seems a domestic AR, trundling and batting.
3. Sengupta  A/R - not heard much about him too.

Umran- Hope he gets wickets and challenges Mayank for Australia's Super fast bowler slot

--90s sports lover has put avideo in youtuube and feels that TM is now backing Umran for Aus as x factor if he performs well in Duleep trophy..Mayank is yet to be match fit esp for longer format

 

Sengupta  A/R - not heard much about him too.

--plays for Assam,Riyan Parag and him had a major role in Assam's goo dperformances..I have seen his bowling.a bit..didnt find extraordinary for top level..but you never know..

[tapandrun]

1 hour ago, Need4Speed said:

Umran- Hope he gets wickets and challenges Mayank for Australia's Super fast bowler slot

--90s sports lover has put avideo in youtuube and feels that TM is now backing Umran for Aus as x factor if he performs well in Duleep trophy..Mayank is yet to be match fit esp for longer format

 

Sengupta  A/R - not heard much about him too.

--plays for Assam,Riyan Parag and him had a major role in Assam's goo dperformances..I have seen his bowling.a bit..didnt find extraordinary for top level..but you never know..

Mayank Yadav --  Lets say he goes to Aus, would TM risk him in test with already 2 more bowlers who are returning from Injury- Bhumrah and Shami.

Do not think mayank is ready as of now to bowl longer spells and Bhumrah and Shami are returning from injuries, how would TM surround him/say Umran with 2/3 bowlers who can bowl longer spells and use mayank/umran in small spells of 4/5 overs??

  

 

 

[tapandrun]

1 hour ago, vishalvirsingh said:

I am excited about  the below Pacers and will try to read thru their performances and even watch their bowling if I can-

 

Team A- I am interested in  Akashdeep- he is already marked in as a 4th INDIA Pacer for tests and he has to repeat the performance he showed in tests.

Prasidh- he is a straight PICK into INDIA's BEST 5 Pacer if he is in full form and bowling 135 to 147k- but the million dollar question is is he trundling or is he bowling fast?

Khaleel- I guess Khaleel is competing with Arshdeep and lets see who performs better in a 4 day match.

Kaverappa- his line n length is the BEST and that's one reason - if Mayank is not fit for Australia , I feel selectors may pick him along with Akash deep ( along with siraj,boom,shammi)

I'm not interested in AVESH as I like his bouncers but his overall bowling is not International standards now - he regularly bowls 127 to 139K now and I only like his bouncers.

Team B-

..Interested in -

1. Siraj
2. Reddy A/R

Not interested in 

Dayal - don't think he is good enough to be among the first 6 to 7 INDIA Pacers -Khaleel and arshdeep are better than him.

Mukesh- no comments

Awasti- he plays for Mumbai and TUSHAR is a much better and faster pacer than him , not good enough to play for INDIA.

Team C-

Interested in 

1. Umran- Hope he gets wickets and challenges Mayank for Australia's Super fast bowler slot.
2. Himanshu Chauhan- I am reading he is a 145k Pacer and has some serious talent- can he be the one?

Not interested in

1. Warrier- he is still 130 to 138K but still I think not good enough to challenge the best Pacers.
2. Vyshak- I understand he is a ODI /t20 run controlling pacer - don't think he is good enough to be among the best INDIA 7 Pacers.
3. Khamboj- Heard good things about him but  feel at least this year he is not going to make many heads turn

Team D

Interested in 

1. Harshit - is 130 to 146k...many are calling him the next Kapil or Hardik, seems he bats well too.
2. Tushar deshpande- bowls 130 to 146k but is a tail ender- he is Mumbai's best pacer and has the talent to play for INDIA.

Not Interested -

1. Arshdeep- highly skilled but lacks stamina 
2. Thakre- seems a domestic AR, trundling and batting.
3. Sengupta  A/R - not heard much about him too.

One of the problem with Khaleel and Pradish are their pace, Khaleel needs to bowl more bowls in 140+kmph range.

And Pradish needs to bowl close to 145 kmph more. bowling 1/2 per over near 140 kmph and rest under is not helping them, bowling coaches should be able to tell them that to be effective this should be their speeds.

 

Khaleel- Gives an impression that he is okay with IPL and some team picking him up and that's it not interested in Ind intnl plus his fielding is not there.

Hard to imagine that Khaleel, Avesh, Nargarkoti, Mavi are coming up from the Ind cricketing system played U19 and still unable to figure those things out. 

 

Himanshu is he really 145 kmph ?? where did u get this. He looked fast in the few FC matches he played but 145 kmph ....??.  He got wkts with bounce, edges (unlike batter poking at dobbly medium pace )and bowled 

Will he be able to play Del t20 league and Duleep trophy ?? not point in sitting on bench and miss out on Del t20 league. Heard Pant will only play 1 match the t20 league.

 

 

 

 

 

[Need4Speed]

1 hour ago, tapandrun said:

Mayank Yadav --  Lets say he goes to Aus, would TM risk him in test with already 2 more bowlers who are returning from Injury- Bhumrah and Shami.

Do not think mayank is ready as of now to bowl longer spells and Bhumrah and Shami are returning from injuries, how would TM surround him/say Umran with 2/3 bowlers who can bowl longer spells and use mayank/umran in small spells of 4/5 overs??

  

 

 

Ya if he is not playing in Duleep trophy..tough for him to go to Aus..Also this Duleep Trophy will be a good oppprtunity for Umran if he bowls well..

Akashdeep also has good chances to be in the flight to Aus

 

In SENA tracks I prefer 5 bowlers..

2 pacers like Boom and Shami

1 express pacers like Mayank/Umran

1 bowling AR like Nitish Reddy or may be Harshit Rana or Akashdeep if they can bat okay

1 spinner..who can bat too like Jadeja/Ashwin/Axar

 So to answer your question..bowling AR and or Spinner can play supporting role for Umran.

[tweaker]

Bumrah,Shami,Siraj,Akashdeep will be the pace quartet for Australia.

Team management have invested too much on Avesh,Mukesh, and Arshdeep.I dont think.they would look.beyond them.

As for Reddy's, selectors had selected him but got injured.

 

Pacers for Australia series 

Bumrah

Shami

Siraj

Akashdeep

Mukesh

Avesh.

 

[vvvslaxman]

12 hours ago, Need4Speed said:

someone uploaded video 3 day ago..hopefully its a fresh one..not old..for just views..

 

 

What is this nonsense music these guys add to every cricket videos

[Lone Wolf]

19 minutes ago, tweaker said:

Bumrah,Shami,Siraj,Akashdeep will be the pace quartet for Australia.

Team management have invested too much on Avesh,Mukesh, and Arshdeep.I dont think.they would look.beyond them.

As for Reddy's, selectors had selected him but got injured.

 

Pacers for Australia series 

Bumrah

Shami

Siraj

Akashdeep

Mukesh

Avesh.

 

Mukesh got dropped in Ranchi Test and Akashdeep played.  Avesh didn't even make Lankan Trip.  Khaleel may have replaced him in pecking order and Don't rule out Rana.  His batting ability is what we are looking for down the order Shardul type.

[Lone Wolf]

Signs are this could be our pace attack in Australia 

Shami

Bumrah 

Siraj

H Rana

Khaleel/ Arshdeep (one of them will be there 100%)

Reports saying TM is keen on a left armer.

[tapandrun]

7 hours ago, Lone Wolf said:

Signs are this could be our pace attack in Australia 

Shami

Bumrah 

Siraj

H Rana

Khaleel/ Arshdeep (one of them will be there 100%)

Reports saying TM is keen on a left armer.

This is v.much the pace unit Ind has to carry with outside chance for Akash deep unless some1 has outstanding Duleep trophy and good Bd test series. 

 

[Need4Speed]

3 hours ago, tapandrun said:

This is v.much the pace unit Ind has to carry with outside chance for Akash deep unless some1 has outstanding Duleep trophy and good Bd test series. 

 

I really wish Hrashit Rana does good..he will good cushion to our batting along with good height bowling..

[tapandrun]

19 minutes ago, Need4Speed said:

I really wish Hrashit Rana does good..he will good cushion to our batting along with good height bowling..

They should have played him in Zim/SL tour this is wasting time and opportunity not giving these players chances.

Not many 145+ kmph bowlers have long careers/no. of balls bowled and since these kind of bowlers (including Umran/mayank/tyagi/sen etc.. high pace) have not played against top batters they tend to get easy wkts in domestic circuits owing to lack of ability of domestic batters to handle pace and bounce.

 

So its imperative that these kind of bowlers are given chances along side settled bowling side against the top batters so that they can improve and add skills to use their extra pace or bounce. Play them when you have bhumrah and shami as when there is pressure these top bowlers can guide them and tell them what to do when under pressure.

 

Posted this on other thread too::

 

Coregoup -

Bhumrah, Shami, Siraj, Akash deep, Singh, Rana, Umran, Mayank, Simarjeet, Tyagi (rated highly here by some, still to show case a good season in any tournament), Himanshu (need to check his pace),Sen

 

Out side core group-

Mukesh kumar, Mukesh Choudhary, Dayal, Avesh, Khaleel, Arora, Mohsin, Arsad, Yudhvir, Sakib (KKr camp is excited about him at least their SM handles) and then there could be people like Avinash Singh (RCB pick think he was not in IPL auctions last time due to injury),Kaverappa, Pradish 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited August 16 by tapandrun