MK55 Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 (edited) 2 hours ago, Suhaan said: I don't think he's wrong here or his intentions aren't at question He wanted to say his body needs to get strong by sending down few overs in FC cricket and get his body strong by playing more cricket It's upto the selectors and TM to fast track him or don't waste him long in domestics,what's in his hand he should use it properly Tyagi is one example ,who is continuously away from domestic cricket be it for N number of reasons, suddenly shows up in IPL only to expect he will play most of the matches Why selectors would trust a guy like him who doesn't seem to play domestics and only IPL(there too he's 95% of the times seen on bench)? I agree that his intentions are mostly correct. But we shouldn’t waste the next 3-5 years only preparing and conditioning his body for longer formats. Brett Lee wasn’t wasted in his initial years just to prepare him for tests. He almost gave the impression that he needs Mayank to grind it out in domestics for multiple years until he’s like 25 years and then he will have the next 5 years of productive international cricket. Times have changed. I’d get him match fit for LOIs initially. If he recovered from his injuries and if he can bowl 10-15 overs with intensity (as per the NCA) then he should be drafted in ASAP for LOIs (with smart workload management there as well) After that, I’ll be more selective with him and give him a chance to build his body for test cricket. That can go in parallel but if he has stamina n fitness issues, it’s more realistic to get him started for LOIs first instead of spending years hoping that he’s gonna be ready for tests. Edited August 22 by MK55 Link to comment
Need4Speed Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 He will play ipl anyways..ho wcan they not allow him play ipl..if he will play for ipl..he will be introduced to shorter formats early enough..the longer format will nee dto be gradual.. how he sustains T20 tournaments will give idea..if his fitness is improving or not.. Link to comment
tapandrun Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 18 hours ago, MK55 said: I agree that his intentions are mostly correct. But we shouldn’t waste the next 3-5 years only preparing and conditioning his body for longer formats. Brett Lee wasn’t wasted in his initial years just to prepare him for tests. He almost gave the impression that he needs Mayank to grind it out in domestics for multiple years until he’s like 25 years and then he will have the next 5 years of productive international cricket. Times have changed. I’d get him match fit for LOIs initially. If he recovered from his injuries and if he can bowl 10-15 overs with intensity (as per the NCA) then he should be drafted in ASAP for LOIs (with smart workload management there as well) After that, I’ll be more selective with him and give him a chance to build his body for test cricket. That can go in parallel but if he has stamina n fitness issues, it’s more realistic to get him started for LOIs first instead of spending years hoping that he’s gonna be ready for tests. More domestic cricket does not help express bowler, they do not have much time with that kind of pace. The USP of pace reduces with the time. So TM and selectors needs to be smart with him, do not delay his entry to Intnl cricket too much and not to over load him at the same time. Lee had advantage that Aus didnt bring to Ind for initial stages of his career and then when he played he had McGrath and Gillispe who could bowl longer spells and use Lee for short spell. One reason Lance Moris didnt make his test debut in Ind was that he is used to bowling with 4 pace bowler pace line-up and he would bowl in small spells. Not sure of the nature of Mayank's injury but its taking too long and they could have sent him to Duleep trophy to test a bit and if not feeling good they could have pulled him out. Link to comment
Vilander Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 19 hours ago, singhvivek141 said: Won't happen unless India collapses. No what's your problem kashmir wants to play for Pakistan, they prefer Pakistan better sporting tradition. Link to comment
Vilander Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 19 hours ago, Austin 3:!6 said: You want to divide India and form Azad Kashmir? Every nation should have its own cricket team so kashmir can play for Pakistan or have its own cricket team it's obvious. Look at a kashmiri they look very different from Indians. Kashmiri Random Indian Sgattick10, cricspirit and singhvivek141 1 2 Link to comment
singhvivek141 Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 4 minutes ago, Vilander said: No what's your problem kashmir wants to play for Pakistan, they prefer Pakistan better sporting tradition. Kashmir is Indian territory, its not part of Pakistan. Those who wish to play for Pakistan can cross the border with no return visa. Link to comment
Vilander Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 1 minute ago, singhvivek141 said: Kashmir is Indian territory, its not part of Pakistan. Those who wish to play for Pakistan can cross the border with no return visa. Nope kashmir is seperate nation in the heart of kashmiris.. So we need to allocate atleast a seperate cricket team, it's obvious they can never bring themselves to support India, their population just does not see themselves in the Indian team, how can they support Indian team. Link to comment
singhvivek141 Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 18 minutes ago, Vilander said: Nope kashmir is seperate nation in the heart of kashmiris.. So we need to allocate atleast a seperate cricket team, it's obvious they can never bring themselves to support India, their population just does not see themselves in the Indian team, how can they support Indian team. The population you're talking about..they're significant in other states as well. We cant cut every part of our nation coz we don't get their "support". And if we learn from history then doing in 1947 didn't help us either...we can't end up losing our land just to pacify few folks. We need to learn to stand up for ourselves rather than making compromises. Need4Speed and Tillu 1 1 Link to comment
Need4Speed Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 its all about how young minds are conditioned..you bring them into mainstream..provide good education..and make sure they are not being brainwashed by someone..in 1 a generation or so..the problem goes away Rightarmfast 1 Link to comment
singhvivek141 Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 3 hours ago, Vilander said: Every nation should have its own cricket team so kashmir can play for Pakistan or have its own cricket team it's obvious. Look at a kashmiri they look very different from Indians. Kashmiri Random Indian What's next...a pic of some guy from Nagaland or East Assam..and start calling them as Chinese Seems Sam Pitroda's followers are aplenty. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 3 hours ago, Vilander said: Every nation should have its own cricket team so kashmir can play for Pakistan or have its own cricket team it's obvious. Look at a kashmiri they look very different from Indians. Kashmiri Random Indian Umran isn't a Kashmiri. So keep Kashmir out of this thread. Link to comment
JaFanatic Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 3 hours ago, Vilander said: Every nation should have its own cricket team so kashmir can play for Pakistan or have its own cricket team it's obvious. Look at a kashmiri they look very different from Indians. Kashmiri Random Indian Nee epo comedy piece aana Link to comment
JaFanatic Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 3 hours ago, Vilander said: Nope kashmir is seperate nation in the heart of kashmiris.. So we need to allocate atleast a seperate cricket team, it's obvious they can never bring themselves to support India, their population just does not see themselves in the Indian team, how can they support Indian team. Riling up vadakans? Link to comment
Jaydev_Unadkat Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 Umran Malik and come back That no good spray gun can stay where he is and continue his 45 averaging 10 economy career in domestic lmao Link to comment
Jaydev_Unadkat Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 On 8/15/2024 at 5:05 PM, Lord said: He needs to model himself on Waqar. Should perfect the yorker alongwith swinging the ball. Lmao Yea nothing wrong with dreaming Its like saying kRK should model himself on Al Pacino Link to comment
singhvivek141 Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 3 hours ago, rkt.india said: Umran isn't a Kashmiri. So keep Kashmir out of this thread. Bhai itna mehnat kaun kare...easy to club everything to one and throw expletives. Lone Wolf and Need4Speed 2 Link to comment
AuxiliA Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 8 hours ago, Vilander said: Random Indian Maybe the DMK idiots look like that, but don't club rest of the Indians in. India is a diverse country. Number, Frustrated and singhvivek141 3 Link to comment
Lone Wolf Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 (edited) 8 hours ago, Vilander said: Every nation should have its own cricket team so kashmir can play for Pakistan or have its own cricket team it's obvious. Look at a kashmiri they look very different from Indians. Kashmiri Random Indian Umran ain't Kashmiri He is from Jammu. His ancestors were Dogra Rajputs. Edited August 23 by Lone Wolf Link to comment
Vilander Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 1 hour ago, AuxiliA said: Maybe the DMK idiots look like that, but don't club rest of the Indians in. India is a diverse country. Well.. You got a point there.. Indians Link to comment
Vilander Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 6 hours ago, JaFanatic said: Riling up vadakans? Ama da... Link to comment
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