Indian sweets will kill you.

[vvvslaxman]

5 minutes ago, coffee_rules said:

Not to be offensive, but Indian sweets is not just sugar. Most of them use maida or high GI ingredients and deep fried in ghee or oil . Gulab jamun is fried maida dipped in sugar syrup. Same is jalebi. For the weather conditions and natural metabolism of Indians, it is bad. Older generation had cleansing methods like fasting on ekadashi and correct course. Aaj kal all that is retro and primitive. 

 

yea they have plain donut option. There is no plain Badusha here lol All of them dipped in sugar syrup.  Among the fried sweets i can live with Adirasam which primarily uses jaggery, rice flour. In moderation they are okay. 

 

 

[vvvslaxman]

2 hours ago, Gollum said:

Cut down on processed food, sweet (not just sugar but honey, jaggery, high GI fruits), masala, fried items and junk. Worst of them all, vegetable and seed oil. 

 

Also not enough protein in Indian cuisine, even for non veg people. Be mindful of that, and add supplements. 

That is all  we have now.  The funny thing about these sweet shop, restuarant is the employees are super thin. 

[nevada]

12 hours ago, Gollum said:

What does a Kannadiga know about sweets? 

 

Mysore Pak lmao. 

Karadant, Kunda, ladgi laddu, dink laddu - I used to order these regularly online from Sadanand sweets of Gokak. They taste amazing! 

[diga]

14 minutes ago, nevada said:

Karadant, Kunda, ladgi laddu, dink laddu - I used to order these regularly online from Sadanand sweets of Gokak. They taste amazing! 

+ Dharwad Peda and the lesser known rice/ragi Halbai

[Gollum]

37 minutes ago, nevada said:

Karadant, Kunda, ladgi laddu, dink laddu - I used to order these regularly online from Sadanand sweets of Gokak. They taste amazing! 

Me and coffee have this banter about Kannadiga vs Bengali sweets. Nothing serious.

[randomGuy]

16 hours ago, Gollum said:

Cut down on processed food, sweet (not just sugar but honey, jaggery, high GI fruits), masala, fried items and junk. Worst of them all, vegetable and seed oil. 

 

Also not enough protein in Indian cuisine, even for non veg people. Be mindful of that, and add supplements. 

 

1. Protein is basically 20 amino acids ...11-12 odd can be manufactured by body and 8-9 can't be (essential amino acids). Mixed dal + roti combo has all the essential amino acids and is called the complete food.

 

2. For all Indians except south Indians, cold pressed (kachi Ghani) mustard oil (sarson tail) is the healthiest oil for cooking. For South Indians, it could be coconut oil. Universally I guess the healthiest oil is olive oil.

 

3. These days nutritionists say that for longevity, eating diversity in plants is the best ...lentils, beans, fruits, vegetables, cereals of different kinds. It will keep ones gut healthy.

[zen]

The thread has reminded me to be health conscious again. 
 

Today, I did not put sugar in my cold coffee. I got used to that taste immediately  

 

[Vancouver]

Just eat less food in general for longevity, problem is growing up we only had access to mithai at weddings or festivities. Life in India in 90s was hard, people were dirt poor.

 

With prosperity you have fridge full of food and mithai dabba on the counter all the time. 

 

TBH Indians eat so much spice and sweets that their taste buds don't appreciate subtle flavours in simple recipes. Once you stop consuming added sugar, your taste buds will start working again and you will find sweetness in stuff you never thought of before. Same with spices, quit eating food with same red chilli power ginger/garlic/onion every time you eat. You will find bland food with some black pepper and salt to be really good. 

 

Everything is good in moderation.

[Ranvir]

My father tells me that mathiyai shops were not prevalent during his childhood in the 60s and 70s. Sweets were only consumed on special occasions, not every day or week. Looking at pictures of people back then they were all slim. 

 

Every Gurdwara I go to they serve sweet prashad in the main hall and then some type of mathiyai in the Langar. It's ridiculous, the priests are all fat as they eat this every day, it's rare to see any non overweight person over 50.

[nevada]

18 hours ago, Vancouver said:

Just eat less food in general for longevity, problem is growing up we only had access to mithai at weddings or festivities. Life in India in 90s was hard, people were dirt poor.

 

With prosperity you have fridge full of food and mithai dabba on the counter all the time. 

 

TBH Indians eat so much spice and sweets that their taste buds don't appreciate subtle flavours in simple recipes. Once you stop consuming added sugar, your taste buds will start working again and you will find sweetness in stuff you never thought of before. Same with spices, quit eating food with same red chilli power ginger/garlic/onion every time you eat. You will find bland food with some black pepper and salt to be really good. 

 

Everything is good in moderation.

I stopped all sugar 2.5 months ago. Last Sunday, I ate a couple of spoonfuls of Prasad at a pooja. It is made of sooji rawa, banana and sugar. The sweeeeet taste lingered in my mouth for close to an hour! I used to be one of those people who always kept a sweet dabba on the counter. Not anymore, I eat fruits now. 

[cowboysfan]

4 hours ago, nevada said:

I stopped all sugar 2.5 months ago. Last Sunday, I ate a couple of spoonfuls of Prasad at a pooja. It is made of sooji rawa, banana and sugar. The sweeeeet taste lingered in my mouth for close to an hour! I used to be one of those people who always kept a sweet dabba on the counter. Not anymore, I eat fruits now. 

its really easy to cut off all sugar.I used to make espresso and no sugar needed for any espresso drinks,coffee and Tea the most likely contact with sugar in India.I am planning on buying an espresso machine in India because the quality of good coffee beans available has gone up significantly in India.

[MechEng]

On 8/19/2024 at 11:37 PM, cowboysfan said:

I  used to go days in the US without any processed sugar intake but its  literally everywhere in Indian food and Indian sweets are basically sugar with some seasoning.Its really a sad state of affairs when you have to tell every waiter to hold the sugar whenever you get coffee or tea outside.please for the love of god stop eating Indian sweets or make it at home with  fraction of sugar added,too much will take years of your life.

 

Atleast Indian sweets have real cane sugar, not the junk high fructose corn syrup.

 

You can also buy unsweetened cereal easily in India, while only few stores serve the same in the US as majority prefer their cereal to be sweet.

[coffee_rules]

2 hours ago, cowboysfan said:

its really easy to cut off all sugar.I used to make espresso and no sugar needed for any espresso drinks,coffee and Tea the most likely contact with sugar in India.I am planning on buying an espresso machine in India because the quality of good coffee beans available has gone up significantly in India.

Been using this since a year or so.. stove top. Great coffee taste like espresso without expensive maintenance 

 

Edited August 22 by coffee_rules

[goose]

healthiest sugar hit is a date

[Vicks57]

On 8/21/2024 at 1:29 PM, randomGuy said:

 

1. Protein is basically 20 amino acids ...11-12 odd can be manufactured by body and 8-9 can't be (essential amino acids). Mixed dal + roti combo has all the essential amino acids and is called the complete food.

 

2. For all Indians except south Indians, cold pressed (kachi Ghani) mustard oil (sarson tail) is the healthiest oil for cooking. For South Indians, it could be coconut oil. Universally I guess the healthiest oil is olive oil.

 

3. These days nutritionists say that for longevity, eating diversity in plants is the best ...lentils, beans, fruits, vegetables, cereals of different kinds. It will keep ones gut healthy.

 

Everything is good except one misinformation.

 

Dal is not a complete protein. But you mentioned 'mixed dal'. I don't think it is practically possible to choose different dals to get all the essential amino acids.

 

Egg whites are the one of the most complete and cheapest source of protein.

 

I have stopped consuming whey protein and started eating atleast 4 egg whites and 2 yolks a day.

[Vicks57]

23 hours ago, coffee_rules said:

Been using this since a year or so.. stove top. Great coffee taste like espresso without expensive maintenance 

 

 

Damn! So it really is true. You love coffee to much

[Vicks57]

I know this might seem ironic considering the title of this discussion . I usually get free sweet box from my employer during festivals. Last yr, I got sweets from nativespecial for diwali.

 

Diwali is coming up in a couple of months. If anyone wants to try authentic tamil sweets and snacks. Andhra sweets and snacks are also available.

 

https://nativespecial.com/in/

 

This website allows international shipping to US, UK, AUS, UK. So if any of NRIs miss authentic homemade sweets, you can try this.

 

Consume sweets only on rare occasions/festivals. 

 

 

Edited August 23 by Vicks57

[Muloghonto]

On 8/20/2024 at 2:04 AM, cowboysfan said:

please elaborate.looking at the waistlines of Indians nowadays and the Diabetes epidemic i am more than right..

Indians consume FAR less sugar per capita than the western average. 

Indian diabetest epidemic is due to our carb-heavy diet. Look at every single Indian breakfast. Luchi-torkari, dosa-aloo, idli-aloo, paratha sabji, roti-sabji etc. 
What are they ? carbs. Great breakfast for farmers who will wake up at 5am, eat this and get the energy boost till lunchtime to work in the fields. 
**** breakfast for ass-sitters like us, who eat this, go to office & sit on our asses, where the carbs we just ate are now not being used for energy, so is being converted to fat. 

Indian breakfasts needs waaaaaaaaaaay more meat/milk/eggs type of protein and far less carbs, as our breakfasts are oriented for the hardworking farmer mentality. 

Not no-working office boy mentality.

Thats why your great grandpa wasnt an aloo but you are, eating the same damn thing.

 

[Muloghonto]

On 8/21/2024 at 1:59 AM, randomGuy said:

 

1. Protein is basically 20 amino acids ...11-12 odd can be manufactured by body and 8-9 can't be (essential amino acids). Mixed dal + roti combo has all the essential amino acids and is called the complete food.

 

2. For all Indians except south Indians, cold pressed (kachi Ghani) mustard oil (sarson tail) is the healthiest oil for cooking. For South Indians, it could be coconut oil. Universally I guess the healthiest oil is olive oil.

 

3. These days nutritionists say that for longevity, eating diversity in plants is the best ...lentils, beans, fruits, vegetables, cereals of different kinds. It will keep ones gut healthy.

Olive oil has really low smoke point. Meaning olive oil is very good & healthy when eaten raw as salad dressing. its one of the worst oil to heat and cook in because the moment u go beyond smoke point of a fat, it starts making free radicals, aka carcinogens. 

 

[Vicks57]

27 minutes ago, Muloghonto said:

Indians consume FAR less sugar per capita than the western average. 

Indian diabetest epidemic is due to our carb-heavy diet. Look at every single Indian breakfast. Luchi-torkari, dosa-aloo, idli-aloo, paratha sabji, roti-sabji etc. 
What are they ? carbs. Great breakfast for farmers who will wake up at 5am, eat this and get the energy boost till lunchtime to work in the fields. 
**** breakfast for ass-sitters like us, who eat this, go to office & sit on our asses, where the carbs we just ate are now not being used for energy, so is being converted to fat. 

Indian breakfasts needs waaaaaaaaaaay more meat/milk/eggs type of protein and far less carbs, as our breakfasts are oriented for the hardworking farmer mentality. 

Not no-working office boy mentality.

Thats why your great grandpa wasnt an aloo but you are, eating the same damn thing.

 

 

Good post. Fully agree . But it is not just limited to breakfast. It is applicable to breakfast, lunch and dinner.

 

North India - Wheat

South India - Rice

 

Carb rich food is fantastic for blue collar workers who toil all day under the sun/heat. White collar people who sit all day should eat less carbs and more protein/fiber.

 

Out of 3 dishes per day, 

1 has to be carb rich (rice/wheat/ millets - millets are more nutritious)

1 has to be fiber rich ( majority of plates should be Vegetables eaten with low quantity millets)

1 has to be protein rich (eggs/meat/veg protein source of your choice)

 

 

Edited August 23 by Vicks57