Indian sweets will kill you.

[vvvslaxman]

2 hours ago, Gollum said:

Cut down on processed food, sweet (not just sugar but honey, jaggery, high GI fruits), masala, fried items and junk. Worst of them all, vegetable and seed oil. 

 

Also not enough protein in Indian cuisine, even for non veg people. Be mindful of that, and add supplements. 

That is all  we have now.  The funny thing about these sweet shop, restuarant is the employees are super thin. 

[nevada]

12 hours ago, Gollum said:

What does a Kannadiga know about sweets? 

 

Mysore Pak lmao. 

Karadant, Kunda, ladgi laddu, dink laddu - I used to order these regularly online from Sadanand sweets of Gokak. They taste amazing! 

[diga]

14 minutes ago, nevada said:

Karadant, Kunda, ladgi laddu, dink laddu - I used to order these regularly online from Sadanand sweets of Gokak. They taste amazing! 

+ Dharwad Peda and the lesser known rice/ragi Halbai

[Gollum]

37 minutes ago, nevada said:

Karadant, Kunda, ladgi laddu, dink laddu - I used to order these regularly online from Sadanand sweets of Gokak. They taste amazing! 

Me and coffee have this banter about Kannadiga vs Bengali sweets. Nothing serious.

[randomGuy]

16 hours ago, Gollum said:

Cut down on processed food, sweet (not just sugar but honey, jaggery, high GI fruits), masala, fried items and junk. Worst of them all, vegetable and seed oil. 

 

Also not enough protein in Indian cuisine, even for non veg people. Be mindful of that, and add supplements. 

 

1. Protein is basically 20 amino acids ...11-12 odd can be manufactured by body and 8-9 can't be (essential amino acids). Mixed dal + roti combo has all the essential amino acids and is called the complete food.

 

2. For all Indians except south Indians, cold pressed (kachi Ghani) mustard oil (sarson tail) is the healthiest oil for cooking. For South Indians, it could be coconut oil. Universally I guess the healthiest oil is olive oil.

 

3. These days nutritionists say that for longevity, eating diversity in plants is the best ...lentils, beans, fruits, vegetables, cereals of different kinds. It will keep ones gut healthy.

[zen]

The thread has reminded me to be health conscious again. 
 

Today, I did not put sugar in my cold coffee. I got used to that taste immediately  

 

[Vancouver]

Just eat less food in general for longevity, problem is growing up we only had access to mithai at weddings or festivities. Life in India in 90s was hard, people were dirt poor.

 

With prosperity you have fridge full of food and mithai dabba on the counter all the time. 

 

TBH Indians eat so much spice and sweets that their taste buds don't appreciate subtle flavours in simple recipes. Once you stop consuming added sugar, your taste buds will start working again and you will find sweetness in stuff you never thought of before. Same with spices, quit eating food with same red chilli power ginger/garlic/onion every time you eat. You will find bland food with some black pepper and salt to be really good. 

 

Everything is good in moderation.

[Ranvir]

My father tells me that mathiyai shops were not prevalent during his childhood in the 60s and 70s. Sweets were only consumed on special occasions, not every day or week. Looking at pictures of people back then they were all slim. 

 

Every Gurdwara I go to they serve sweet prashad in the main hall and then some type of mathiyai in the Langar. It's ridiculous, the priests are all fat as they eat this every day, it's rare to see any non overweight person over 50.

[nevada]

18 hours ago, Vancouver said:

Just eat less food in general for longevity, problem is growing up we only had access to mithai at weddings or festivities. Life in India in 90s was hard, people were dirt poor.

 

With prosperity you have fridge full of food and mithai dabba on the counter all the time. 

 

TBH Indians eat so much spice and sweets that their taste buds don't appreciate subtle flavours in simple recipes. Once you stop consuming added sugar, your taste buds will start working again and you will find sweetness in stuff you never thought of before. Same with spices, quit eating food with same red chilli power ginger/garlic/onion every time you eat. You will find bland food with some black pepper and salt to be really good. 

 

Everything is good in moderation.

I stopped all sugar 2.5 months ago. Last Sunday, I ate a couple of spoonfuls of Prasad at a pooja. It is made of sooji rawa, banana and sugar. The sweeeeet taste lingered in my mouth for close to an hour! I used to be one of those people who always kept a sweet dabba on the counter. Not anymore, I eat fruits now. 

[cowboysfan]

4 hours ago, nevada said:

I stopped all sugar 2.5 months ago. Last Sunday, I ate a couple of spoonfuls of Prasad at a pooja. It is made of sooji rawa, banana and sugar. The sweeeeet taste lingered in my mouth for close to an hour! I used to be one of those people who always kept a sweet dabba on the counter. Not anymore, I eat fruits now. 

its really easy to cut off all sugar.I used to make espresso and no sugar needed for any espresso drinks,coffee and Tea the most likely contact with sugar in India.I am planning on buying an espresso machine in India because the quality of good coffee beans available has gone up significantly in India.

[MechEng]

On 8/19/2024 at 11:37 PM, cowboysfan said:

I  used to go days in the US without any processed sugar intake but its  literally everywhere in Indian food and Indian sweets are basically sugar with some seasoning.Its really a sad state of affairs when you have to tell every waiter to hold the sugar whenever you get coffee or tea outside.please for the love of god stop eating Indian sweets or make it at home with  fraction of sugar added,too much will take years of your life.

 

Atleast Indian sweets have real cane sugar, not the junk high fructose corn syrup.

 

You can also buy unsweetened cereal easily in India, while only few stores serve the same in the US as majority prefer their cereal to be sweet.

[coffee_rules]

2 hours ago, cowboysfan said:

its really easy to cut off all sugar.I used to make espresso and no sugar needed for any espresso drinks,coffee and Tea the most likely contact with sugar in India.I am planning on buying an espresso machine in India because the quality of good coffee beans available has gone up significantly in India.

Been using this since a year or so.. stove top. Great coffee taste like espresso without expensive maintenance 

 

Edited August 22, 2024 by coffee_rules

[goose]

healthiest sugar hit is a date

[Muloghonto]

On 8/20/2024 at 2:04 AM, cowboysfan said:

please elaborate.looking at the waistlines of Indians nowadays and the Diabetes epidemic i am more than right..

Indians consume FAR less sugar per capita than the western average. 

Indian diabetest epidemic is due to our carb-heavy diet. Look at every single Indian breakfast. Luchi-torkari, dosa-aloo, idli-aloo, paratha sabji, roti-sabji etc. 
What are they ? carbs. Great breakfast for farmers who will wake up at 5am, eat this and get the energy boost till lunchtime to work in the fields. 
**** breakfast for ass-sitters like us, who eat this, go to office & sit on our asses, where the carbs we just ate are now not being used for energy, so is being converted to fat. 

Indian breakfasts needs waaaaaaaaaaay more meat/milk/eggs type of protein and far less carbs, as our breakfasts are oriented for the hardworking farmer mentality. 

Not no-working office boy mentality.

Thats why your great grandpa wasnt an aloo but you are, eating the same damn thing.

 

[Muloghonto]

On 8/21/2024 at 1:59 AM, randomGuy said:

 

1. Protein is basically 20 amino acids ...11-12 odd can be manufactured by body and 8-9 can't be (essential amino acids). Mixed dal + roti combo has all the essential amino acids and is called the complete food.

 

2. For all Indians except south Indians, cold pressed (kachi Ghani) mustard oil (sarson tail) is the healthiest oil for cooking. For South Indians, it could be coconut oil. Universally I guess the healthiest oil is olive oil.

 

3. These days nutritionists say that for longevity, eating diversity in plants is the best ...lentils, beans, fruits, vegetables, cereals of different kinds. It will keep ones gut healthy.

Olive oil has really low smoke point. Meaning olive oil is very good & healthy when eaten raw as salad dressing. its one of the worst oil to heat and cook in because the moment u go beyond smoke point of a fat, it starts making free radicals, aka carcinogens. 

 

[Muloghonto]

18 minutes ago, Vicks57 said:

 

Good post. Fully agree . But it is not just limited to breakfast. It is applicable to breakfast, lunch and dinner.

 

North India - Wheat

South India - Rice

 

Carb rich food is fantastic for blue collar workers who toil all day under the sun/heat. White collar people who sit all day should eat less carbs and more protein/fiber.

 

Out of 3 dishes per day, 

1 has to be carb rich (rice/wheat/ millets - millets are more nutritious)

1 has to be fiber rich ( majority of plates should be Vegetables eaten with low quantity millets)

1 has to be protein rich (eggs/meat/veg protein source of your choice)

 

 

 

If you are gonna promote veg protien, then promote things like Seitan or something similar. 
Because what a LOT of these veggie/vegan people miss out on, is that YES, if you mix and match the right veggies, you can get your complete protien. but plant protiens, unless specifically refined like Seitan and stuff are STILL 50-60% or more carbs. 100 grams of Dal for eg, has 9-10 grams of protien and 20 grams of carbs. 
While animal meat/meat products are ALL 70-80% protein and the rest is fat. 
Ie, even if you eat 0 rice & 0 wheat and just eat dal or chickpeas, you are still consuming twice as much carbs as protien and fat.

 

[Muloghonto]

5 minutes ago, Vicks57 said:

 

That's why I mentioned "protein rich", "fiber rich".

 

Ideally if a particular food has more carbs than protein, then it isn't really protein rich.

 

Egg whites are cheap and a complete source of protein.

 

I only included vegetarian source of protein because there are a lot of vegetarians in this forum.

Well then by that score, there is no vegetable protein that isnt highly processed like seitan, that is protein rich. They are all carb rich. 

The vegetarians in the forum also deserve to know the difference. Us meatatarians can completely cut out complex carbs and simple carbs if we wish, they can't without going through a lot of trouble to get seitan.

 

[Muloghonto]

1 minute ago, Vicks57 said:

 

Never heard of seitan before. Looked it up when you mentioned it.

 

Looks like all plant based meat is made up of this seitan.

IIRC its an indonesian origin food.

Good luck if you have gluten sensitivity or allergy though, seitan is essentially all gluten.

Edited August 23, 2024 by Muloghonto

[Muloghonto]

6 minutes ago, Vicks57 said:

 I think "Paneer" will qualify as protein rich Vegetarian source.

Yes. our vegetarian friends can bypass ' carbs in dal, carbs in chola' etc. by eating **** tons of paneer or milk. Our vegan friends are SOL but thankfully not many indians are retarded enough to be vegans or promote such an anti-poor ideology as veganism.

I dunno history of seitan. All i know is, it tastes like cardboard made into jelly but has **** tons of protien in it and only veggie protien that isnt animal-product based that can compete with animal products for % protien. Had it given to me by an indonesian friend who said they came up with it, which i wouldnt be surprised is nationalist appropriation lol.

 

Edited August 23, 2024 by Muloghonto

[Muloghonto]

22 minutes ago, Vicks57 said:

 

Looks like Vegans are *ed if they have gluten allergy.

Vegans in the west are mostly EFFED anyways. 

I am a vegetable leaning omnivore ( meaning i eat more veggies than anything coz i wanna age like Anil Kapoor and not Om puri) and i've gone weeks and months without meat (pujas, shraddhos etc). 
NEVER had the urge to make my aloo or paneer look like a hot-dog or a burger before i ate it. Never understood the mentality of western vegans who are literally ' i hate meat, meat is evil, eat veggies but plz make my veggies look like meat'. Like wtf, that is some Freudian psychology **** and not normal.

I remember hosting a bbq before covid and a friend who'd recently gone vegan and i didnt know, brought pork chops to grill and eat and then offered me one. i ate it. it tasted like gobi with meat flavour and i am like wtf and she was like ' oh its vegan pork chop' and i was like ' sabji khana haye to khao. Sabjee ko suwar ki tarah dikhake fir khane ka kya matlab ?' 

 

Edited August 23, 2024 by Muloghonto