What is this recent hate against India/Indians on Twitter/SM

[Lone Wolf]

I tend to agree here... 

 

[mishra]

20 minutes ago, zen said:

 

Yeah, it is a hassle for OCIs. If you don’t have Adhaar card, many act as if they don’t know how to process a case (Where is the training? Or maybe they are acting as it may involve more work).

 

People like me have suffered a lot due to some of Modi’s policies. There is a gap b/w idea and its implementation. Many times, even government systems are down so they can’t work.

 

The irony is that those who want to manipulate the system will do so in any case! Those who want to do things in a correct manner suffer.

 

BTW, policy was allways there, It has been enforced between PAN OCI Adhara and Bank using digitisation. Trust me, the Data Finance Ministry has or gets is so huge, that one day they may decide to use AI to get legal notices to individual Bank account holders. Anyone thinks , Gvmnt dont know, is actually  in Lala land. Its just that they dont know how to legally persue all financial misdeeds which is in billions of count.

[randomGuy]

2 hours ago, coffee_rules said:

 

Japan is a homogeneous society and a civilization that thrived mainly by being xenophobic and fear of the external, you will be fooled by how homogeneity works well. India has  alot more variation/diversity  in language, culture, religion and philosophy. It’s amazing to see it being still a union as a nation. When a simple concept of toilet, andswacch is being mocked politically, it will be far fetched to imagine a viksit(developed) Bharat

 

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I guess a large number of our people do maintain cleanliness but I very very often see so-called educated youngsters eat outside on public benches etc. leave their trash and also throw their trash at all places very very casually. This is sad. There are cleaner cities in India but overall impression one gets is our country is very very dirty, this is because of us Indians only. Practically all developed or mid income countries will be much cleaner than India I think.

[zen]

An issue with “us” is that “we” use “India” without caring for it:

 

* We become Indians when dealing with Pak, BD, or some irrelevant white nationalist in a far away place. We become “BJP” or “Congress” when dealing with issues in India. If someone talks about an issue, it would be because of x political party or it being not a big issue as a different place ruled by party y is much worse.

 

* When we become “NRIs”, we attempt to portray India as relatively “developed”, weaving outlier stories, because our own image is linked with the country of origin. If it were that good, we would likely not be “NRIs”.

 

* We become of state X or Y, of religion X or Y, etc., per our convenience. 

 

We have lost “genuinity” (not sure if there is such a word but you get the point) - the quality to discuss issues or ideas genuinely.
 

When will we feel that enough is enough? We need to bring the quality of being genuine back (I hope it is not considered being naive). We cannot solve our problems if we cannot acknowledge them and look to deflect issues or get engaged in window dressing! 

We should be able to “genuinely” introspect rather than look to find an external source (including some conspiracy) as a scapegoat. Only “Indians” can make “India” better (or worse).

Edited September 2 by zen

[Austin 3:!6]

2 hours ago, Ranvir said:

White Brits were around 95% of the population of London in the early 1960s and are now just 35%, their numbers in each census gets less and less every census. That's a massive change in just 60 years. Even in 2001 London was 60% White British, places like Barking and Enfield were 80% White back then. 

 

They don't like living with other ethnicities. That's why I wouldn't try to move to their areas. They are generally nice friendly people with good morals and I have no problem with them wanting to live amongst themselves. 

 

On the flip side they have completely changed the demographics of North America, The Carribean, Australasia where the natives are a tiny minority or extinct, not to mention they have created new races by mixing whites with blacks, native americans and Aborigines and Maoris. 

 

Europe is going further and further to the right, they've had enough. 

 

Wow...cant imagine Barking was 80% white in 2001.

 

It is totally different now. I used to live in Docklands till 2021 before moved out of London.

[Austin 3:!6]

2 hours ago, Lone Wolf said:

Barry Stanton is a British Wignat account actually & from what I heard on X from India. E warriors is he sold his account to some other far right dude in US which was posting anti Indian stuff. 

But damage has already been done.  Numerous alt right accounts are posting racist stuff and supporting accounts like Barry 

 

 

You are reading too much into it. I have followed Barry Stanton for a long time and he is racist towards everyone. His main targets were always Jews, blacks and Islamists. If anything he never used to go after Indians, apart from last 2 weeks. I don't know what happen..maybe some Indian guy riled him up...LOL. 

 

Most British Patriots like Tommy Robinson love Israel & Jews. So for Barry to regularly post anti semitic tweet makes me feel he is a parody account run by some Briit Pakistani's. Just to balance it out, he occasionally used to go after his own community so that people don't doubt him.

 

This fat clown from America whose video you shared is just trying to earn some cheap money from X on Barry's name to eat more burgers

[coffee_rules]

2 hours ago, mishra said:

BTW, policy was allways there, It has been enforced between PAN OCI Adhara and Bank using digitisation. Trust me, the Data Finance Ministry has or gets is so huge, that one day they may decide to use AI to get legal notices to individual Bank account holders. Anyone thinks , Gvmnt dont know, is actually  in Lala land. Its just that they dont know how to legally persue all financial misdeeds which is in billions of count.

I have had all accounts converted to NRE or NRO. I hav deMat account , Life insurance policies, properties etc all as OCI. There is no issue without Aadhar card. It is just some paper work. Only thing can’t get in India is a SIM card. With eSIM I get free data in India and don’t need an Indian SIM card. It is the least of the problems for NRIs to complain about. 

[Ranvir]

48 minutes ago, Austin 3:!6 said:

 

Wow...cant imagine Barking was 80% white in 2001.

 

It is totally different now. I used to live in Docklands till 2021 before moved out of London.

Minorities tend to move to inner city areas and then spread further out once they're a bit more affluent or want a better quality of life. The Bangladeshis and Indians who lived in Whitechapel, East Ham etc have moved out to Ilford and Barking in the last 25 years. This then pushes the whites further out. Most of the East London whites now live in Essex. 

 

I've had numerous Indians who live in a good area saying to me that they want to move to a more mixed area (i.e. more white). I tell them that the white British do not want to live with them and as soon as more Indians/minorities move there the whites will flee. Just don't bother. Just focus on keeping your area clean and follow the law. I live just outside West London and there are some nice areas with lots of Indians such as Iver, Stoke Poges, Gerrards Cross, Langley. It's the likes of Southall, Wembley, East London which are beyond saving, people driving impatiently like maniacs, walking in the middle of the road, spitting paan. 

[mishra]

8 minutes ago, coffee_rules said:

I have had all accounts converted to NRE or NRO. I hav deMat account , Life insurance policies, properties etc all as OCI. There is no issue without Aadhar card. It is just some paper work. Only thing can’t get in India is a SIM card. With eSIM I get free data in India and don’t need an Indian SIM card. It is the least of the problems for NRIs to complain about. 

Yes, There are no issues. But say you are second or third generation NRI who own a OCI and living in US/US or somewhere. Now sitting at home, one fine day , You decide that you have lots of money and may be invest some in Indian equities. what will you do next? As a OCI holder, you should be allowed, but you dont have 10 other required documents like PAN, Bank and so on. What I proposed is assume everyone applying for OCI has financial Interest in India as well and make the process streamlined(Even if it is via some national bank and you want person to read and sign some legal terms and conditions) as all personal details were taken at the time of OCI request

Edited September 2 by mishra

[coffee_rules]

1 hour ago, Austin 3:!6 said:

 

You are reading too much into it. I have followed Barry Stanton for a long time and he is racist towards everyone. His main targets were always Jews, blacks and Islamists. If anything he never used to go after Indians, apart from last 2 weeks. I don't know what happen..maybe some Indian guy riled him up...LOL. 

 

Most British Patriots like Tommy Robinson love Israel & Jews. So for Barry to regularly post anti semitic tweet makes me feel he is a parody account run by some Briit Pakistani's. Just to balance it out, he occasionally used to go after his own community so that people don't doubt him.

 

This fat clown from America whose video you shared is just trying to earn some cheap money from X on Barry's name to eat more burgers

I don’t understand why Indians follow accounts like Barry’s and then complain that there is anti-Indian content being pushed on X. Your TL is an algorithm, you don’t follow or read bad content , your TL is relatively clean. You can even tell X you are not interested in such posts . You don’t face racism more because there is bad content on SM. Nor you face less when there is good content. SM is more like society. There are good societies and bad ones, choose where you want to live

Edited September 2 by coffee_rules

[zen]

1 hour ago, Austin 3:!6 said:

 

This fat clown from America whose video you shared is just trying to earn some cheap money from X on Barry's name to eat more burgers

 

Because of how some Indian folks reacted, these clowns or losers have discovered that there is $$$ to be made by writing against India.

 

There is this pattern in India, which was eventually going to blow up: 

 

* If a cricketer wrote something like X is better than Kohli or whoever, the warriors would attack that person. You would find post such as “look at your own record”, “you are not this or that.”, etc. 

 

* If an activist like Arundhati Roy wrote something, the warriors would attack her. 

 

* Then the wars of words with “warriors” from Pakistan, etc. 

 

Since the posts by these “unknown” warriors would be low quality, the well known folks on twitter (such as a cricketer, an actor, etc.) would back away.

 

By constantly doing this, these guys kept gaining confidence (attack with low quality stuff to shut a well known person or institution) and like empty vessels, trying to make more noise, ventured into other areas where now they will likely face an equally (if not more) messed up folks, who would not mind negatively exploiting India to gain more $$$s. And, unfortunately, there is content available to be exploited. 

 

And the more these “warriors” respond (they have free time while not having much time to use brains), the more anti-India content could gain traction on SM. 

 

Edited September 2 by zen

[Austin 3:!6]

22 minutes ago, coffee_rules said:

I don’t understand why Indians follow accounts like Barry’s and then complain that there is anti-Indian content being pushed on X. Your TL is an algorithm, you don’t follow or read bad content , your TL is relatively clean. You can even tell X you are not interested in such posts . You don’t face racism more because there is bad content on SM. Nor you face less when there is good content. SM is more like society. There are good societies and bad ones, choose where you want to live

 

Too much population, too many youths, too much time and too much social media. Just go to any Eng or Aus cricketers timelines...or even on their wives profiles...you will always find our youths. This is not only for Indians though but including Pak & BD. Social media has been a bane for our youths for sure.

[coffee_rules]

20 minutes ago, Austin 3:!6 said:

 

Too much population, too many youths, too much time and too much social media. Just go to any Eng or Aus cricketers timelines...or even on their wives profiles...you will always find our youths. This is not only for Indians though but including Pak & BD. Social media has been a bane for our youths for sure.

I blame Ambanis and Chinese made cheap Android  phones for this mess. Ambani made Internet cheap in India, cheapest among all countries. Chinese phone made it affordable to all classes. You get smart phones at 10-12k range. You should see how Indians are spending time making reels and stories. 

Edited September 2 by coffee_rules

[Austin 3:!6]

43 minutes ago, zen said:

 

Because of how some Indian folks reacted, these clowns or losers have discovered that there is $$$ to be made by writing against India.

 

There is this pattern in India, which was eventually going to blow up: 

 

* If a cricketer wrote something like X is better than Kohli or whoever, the warriors would attack that person. You would find post such as “look at your own record”, “you are not this or that.”, etc. 

 

* If an activist like Arundhati Roy wrote something, the warriors would attack her. 

 

* Then the wars of words with “warriors” from Pakistan, etc. 

 

Since the posts by these “unknown” warriors would be low quality, the well known folks on twitter (such as a cricketer, an actor, etc.) would back away.

 

By constantly doing this, these guys kept gaining confidence (attack with low quality stuff to shut a well known person or institution) and like empty vessels, trying to make more noise, ventured into other areas where now they will likely face an equally (if not more) messed up folks, who would not mind negatively exploiting India to gain more $$$s. And, unfortunately, there is content available to be exploited. 

 

And the more these “warriors” respond (they have free time while not having much time to use brains), the more anti-India content could gain traction on SM. 

 

 

Yeah these gora's exploit us a lot. Have you seen those reaction video's in youtube? They will put some random Indian films, praise the songs and dance moves and will earn money from Youtube. Even Pakistani's do the same, OTT praise on Indian films (which even we find cringy ) just to play to the galleries.

[bowl_out]

On 8/29/2024 at 12:48 AM, Sgattick10 said:

Also this. GOI need to step up. 

 

 

It's sometimes easy to tell and Indian restaurant run by Indians vs Pakistanis. Go to restaurants that are named Shiva or Tulsi or Lakshmi instead of some generic Indian name like Namaste India. The likelihood of seeing Indian management is much higher in the former because no Pakistani will use a Hindu name for their restaurant.

[zen]

7 minutes ago, Austin 3:!6 said:

 

Yeah these gora's exploit us a lot. Have you seen those reaction video's in youtube? They will put some random Indian films, praise the songs and dance moves and will earn money from Youtube. Even Pakistani's do the same, OTT praise on Indian films (which even we find cringy ) just to play to the galleries.

And in the comments section, you would find Indian folks recommending them more Indian films

 

I used to watch a couple of guys do such videos: 

 

 

These guys have over 1M subscribers! 

 

[Lone Wolf]

4 hours ago, randomGuy said:

I guess a large number of our people do maintain cleanliness but I very very often see so-called educated youngsters eat outside on public benches etc. leave their trash and also throw their trash at all places very very casually. This is sad. There are cleaner cities in India but overall impression one gets is our country is very very dirty, this is because of us Indians only. Practically all developed or mid income countries will be much cleaner than India I think.

One word "Dehatism"  Our Dehatis are slowly getting exported to the West & reputation is bound to take a massive nosedive.

Our educated cultured NRIs must brace themselves for what"s coming lol

[Lone Wolf]

55 minutes ago, bowl_out said:

It's sometimes easy to tell and Indian restaurant run by Indians vs Pakistanis. Go to restaurants that are named Shiva or Tulsi or Lakshmi instead of some generic Indian name like Namaste India. The likelihood of seeing Indian management is much higher in the former because no Pakistani will use a Hindu name for their restaurant.

Generic term is Indian food at the end of the day.  North Indians and Pakistanis technically have similar food & cuisine & Pakistani cuisine doesn't exists... It is Indian at the end of the day.

 

Indians can still identify the difference but not sure others can.

No one would care to go to a Pakistani food outlet.

Arab cuisine is different altogether.

[Sgattick10]

2 hours ago, Austin 3:!6 said:

 

Yeah these gora's exploit us a lot. Have you seen those reaction video's in youtube? They will put some random Indian films, praise the songs and dance moves and will earn money from Youtube. Even Pakistani's do the same, OTT praise on Indian films (which even we find cringy ) just to play to the galleries.

They've realised both work. Positive and negative. Positive ho toh waah sar thank you sar, review more sari, negative be like how dare you, we proud indians, google, Microsoft, Adobe etc all head Indians 

Earn money, views, engagements both ways .. 

[coffee_rules]

1 hour ago, Austin 3:!6 said:

 

Yeah these gora's exploit us a lot. Have you seen those reaction video's in youtube? They will put some random Indian films, praise the songs and dance moves and will earn money from Youtube. Even Pakistani's do the same, OTT praise on Indian films (which even we find cringy ) just to play to the galleries.

And those trying Indian food for the first time reaction videos.  It is a sign of inferiority complex drained in our DNA due to centuries of colonialism.