coffee_rules Posted September 2 Share Posted September 2 1 hour ago, Lone Wolf said: One word "Dehatism" Our Dehatis are slowly getting exported to the West & reputation is bound to take a massive nosedive. Our educated cultured NRIs must brace themselves for what"s coming lol It’s been there forever. We go to Indian streets in Jersey city, Edison, Chicago, Toronto, NYC, , it is as dirty as in India. Nothing new.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted September 2 Share Posted September 2 “We” should stop being insecure and try to accept both our pros and cons. “We” have got into a bad habit of usually trying to defend and prove ourselves. Doing India this or that all the time can be counter productive. Yes, we were colonized once, but most of the world was by forces that were technological advanced. We had people who ran away at the sight of a train! We do NOT need certificate from anyone. If some of our things make others laugh, there are things of others that make us laugh as well. If there are rogue elements in our society who are running wild on social media, let them bear their own responsibility and consequences. For our “own” good, we need to try to reduce cons and built up pros. Focus on improving our manners, hygiene, cleanliness, environment, education, infrastructure, governance, etc., which benefits our own society, our own people. Sgattick10 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted September 2 Share Posted September 2 1 hour ago, Lone Wolf said: Generic term is Indian food at the end of the day. North Indians and Pakistanis technically have similar food & cuisine & Pakistani cuisine doesn't exists... It is Indian at the end of the day. Indians can still identify the difference but not sure others can. No one would care to go to a Pakistani food outlet. Arab cuisine is different altogether. If we broaden the picture, “Indian” also refers to the Indian subcontinent which includes countries like Pak, BD, etc. Many times, Pakistani “Indian” restaurants serve more tasty (aligned relatively more with taste in India) food than many Indian restaurants which tend to target whites as well. The quantity can also be more in Pakistani “Indian” restaurants. Lone Wolf 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranvir Posted September 2 Share Posted September 2 5 hours ago, Lone Wolf said: One word "Dehatism" Our Dehatis are slowly getting exported to the West & reputation is bound to take a massive nosedive. Our educated cultured NRIs must brace themselves for what"s coming lol The educated ones are not that much better unfortunately. Pre covid the toilets where I worked were absolutely filthy, largely due to the large number of former offshore workers. I eventually started using the toilets on another part of the building which were far cleaner. Richer Indian tourists also have a bad reputation of leaving their hotels in an absolute mess, creating a bad reputation. Something needs to be done about this, the government should enforce civic sense training from a young age. zen, Lone Wolf, randomGuy and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowl_out Posted September 2 Share Posted September 2 5 hours ago, Lone Wolf said: Generic term is Indian food at the end of the day. North Indians and Pakistanis technically have similar food & cuisine & Pakistani cuisine doesn't exists... It is Indian at the end of the day. Indians can still identify the difference but not sure others can. No one would care to go to a Pakistani food outlet. Arab cuisine is different altogether. Nothing against anybody of any ethnicity here. I've heard from restaurant owners who are Pakistani restaurant owners that they reuse ingredients including water across their menu items. eg. water used to boil meat is strained (filtered) and re-used in dals because (1) they want to re-use/optimize water usage (2) the water strained from meat adds flavor to other items like dal. I've seen vegetarians particularly having a problem in such situations, because Pakistanis don't generally understand vegetarianism. Nothing to suggest that the same thing might not happen at a restaurant run by an Indian, but the perception is that they might know the preference of vegetarians better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 3 hours ago, bowl_out said: Nothing against anybody of any ethnicity here. I've heard from restaurant owners who are Pakistani restaurant owners that they reuse ingredients including water across their menu items. eg. water used to boil meat is strained (filtered) and re-used in dals because (1) they want to re-use/optimize water usage (2) the water strained from meat adds flavor to other items like dal. I've seen vegetarians particularly having a problem in such situations, because Pakistanis don't generally understand vegetarianism. Nothing to suggest that the same thing might not happen at a restaurant run by an Indian, but the perception is that they might know the preference of vegetarians better. Once we go to any Veg/Non-veg , you can’t expect them to have used separate utensils for veg and non-veg. Better to go to a pure vegetarian restaurant if you are concerned about mixing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randomGuy Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 6 hours ago, Ranvir said: The educated ones are not that much better unfortunately. Pre covid the toilets where I worked were absolutely filthy, largely due to the large number of former offshore workers. I eventually started using the toilets on another part of the building which were far cleaner. Richer Indian tourists also have a bad reputation of leaving their hotels in an absolute mess, creating a bad reputation. Something needs to be done about this, the government should enforce civic sense training from a young age. There are ways for giving suggestions and feedbacks to various state govts as well as central government. I will write a suggestion to Central government to study curriculum in Japan regarding moral values, civic sense, cleanliness etc. and implement something similar in Indian schools. I have done it before (most recently to various BJP ruled states after the lok sabha results to implement free cash scheme for women and some states like Maharashtra and haryana have recently implemented that, not saying due to my feedback but it will be good if many people give the same suggestion) Ranvir and coffee_rules 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randomGuy Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 https://www.republicindia.in/index_files/Swachh_Bharat_Abhiyan.htm Suggestion page^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 (edited) Yeah, students should be told about good hygiene practices. One of the issues that I face in India at the moment is people coughing and sneezing without covering their mouths. Many times, people start coughing when you are about to pass them. The correct way to sneeze - Link … In fact, there is a need for constant ads to help and remind people how to cough and sneeze properly. Cleanliness of washrooms has been discussed. Hands should be washed with soap for at least 20 seconds. No littering around. And it helps to have more garbage bins around, encouraging people to use them. It can be difficult to find garbage bins at many places. Edited September 3 by zen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgattick10 Posted September 3 Author Share Posted September 3 33 minutes ago, zen said: Yeah, students should be told about good hygiene practices. One of the issues that I face in India at the moment is people coughing and sneezing without covering their mouths. Many times, people start coughing when you are about to pass them. The correct way to sneeze - Link … In fact, there is a need for constant ads to help and remind people how to cough and sneeze properly. Cleanliness of washrooms has been discussed. Hands should be washed with soap for at least 20 seconds. No littering around. And it helps to have more garbage bins around, encouraging people to use them. It can be difficult to find garbage bins at many places. Tbf i have found big cities more dirty and smelly then smaller towns maybe cos of huge density. The Govt needs to do more also the civic bodies need to fine people for littering, unhygienic street food etc. Just educating the mass on this won't work. People are too dheet and callous, need to be strict with them. zen and Ranvir 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 2 hours ago, randomGuy said: https://www.republicindia.in/index_files/Swachh_Bharat_Abhiyan.htm Suggestion page^^ The page has an “email validator” which is not visible on Safari on my phone so cannot submit the form. randomGuy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randomGuy Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 (edited) 13 minutes ago, zen said: The page has an “email validator” which is not visible on Safari on my phone so cannot submit the form. Good that you tried. I don't have a solution for apple. For those who are trying on android, it will send a long code (like this "173d0a2e59a4639b9c38da4a7e92fde9") from jotform on your email which you have to copy-paste. It is safe. Edited September 3 by randomGuy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 Btw, talking about Japan, I had a thread on its passion for cleanliness: randomGuy and mishra 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 I had also posted the below: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 Since I am in India and have some relatively more free time over the next few months, I might want to design motivational/educational content or give some lectures/inputs where possible on improving the community. Sgattick10 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 13 hours ago, Ranvir said: The educated ones are not that much better unfortunately. Pre covid the toilets where I worked were absolutely filthy, largely due to the large number of former offshore workers. I eventually started using the toilets on another part of the building which were far cleaner. Richer Indian tourists also have a bad reputation of leaving their hotels in an absolute mess, creating a bad reputation. Something needs to be done about this, the government should enforce civic sense training from a young age. My niece studies at Berkeley. One of the unwanted issues she is facing is the state of washrooms which have gone to the dogs because of international Indian students. I won’t be surprised if just going to the washrooms would appear like a horror experience. I don’t understand why the parents, if they are good enough to send their kids to the US for education, miss out on such teaching such basics: * Keep the washrooms spotless. * Wash your hands properly. * Cough and sneeze properly, using your elbow. * Brush your teeth at night too. * Don’t litter. Use garbage bins (find one if it is not around). There was this incidence in Canada. I was at a clothing store in a mall. One “new comer” entered and he probably did not know where to start so when he saw me, he came to the section that I was in. And when he came near me, he begin to cough badly without even covering his mouth, showering viruses all around the place. I ran away from that section, feeling that I was infected with viruses, and I was as in a few days, I was down with a bad viral infection. Many of these folks do not realize that they create a horror experience for others when they don’t keep washrooms clean, don’t take precautions while coughing and sneezing, etc. They probably don’t even know where they are going wrong! Sgattick10 and Ranvir 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishra Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 2 hours ago, zen said: * Keep the washrooms spotless. * Wash your hands properly. * Cough and sneeze properly, using your elbow. * Brush your teeth at night too. * Don’t litter. Use garbage bins (find one if it is not around). You are sounding like my wife zen, coffee_rules and randomGuy 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 25 minutes ago, mishra said: You are sounding like my wife Give her a for me. Every home should have at least one such person who is concerned about general hygiene and health of the family. mishra and coffee_rules 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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