Chaos Posted September 29, 2024 Posted September 29, 2024 4 minutes ago, Lannister said: Each yuga is said to span millions of years, yet modern humans have only existed for around 250,000 years. Science contradicts your belief. so u believe science or religion?. U know u r part genetically alien? singhvivek141 1
coffee_rules Posted September 29, 2024 Posted September 29, 2024 6 minutes ago, AKane said: Fair enough - but I don't understand atma never mind parmaatma and absolutely do not comprehend how merging with parmaatma benefits atma. The simplistic Christian explanation of everlasting life with no sorrow can be understood. If you enjoy eating misal pav and jalebi and pani puri, you can eat those and other things to your content. If you enjoy math - keep studying it to your content etc. Kind of boring I think but ok....can comprehend. But no sorrow? So if I like hunting and shoot an animal - there is no sorrow? What nonsense.... Still can be rationalized. Honestly atma merging with parmaatma and the benefits of that is beyond me and with all due respect beyond those who claim to understand it too. Hindu philosophy is difficult to understand, that is why they teach it with puranas, kathaa, etc. Vedas and upanishads were difficult to preach, hence Vyas made it concise into 18 chapters of Bhagavad Gita to explain the philosophy of Vedas and upanishads. Advait separates your body and consciousness (atma) which loosely translates to living spirit. That lives on forever in different bodies in the cycle of life and death. They thought that consciousness has to come from where, they called it to be part of a supreme consciousness (parmaatma, nothing but universe ) . The cycle of life and death will be stopped when the atma attains the perfection to be merged back into parmaatma , which every must try to achieve by doing good karma. The culture, rituals and practices are to be followed as per the times of the society. They need to reform with new settings age and new knowledge, hence there is need to reform. Spitting paan on clean walls is not taught by Dharma for you to mock. It is caused by degeneration of society . They have to reformed by stick singhvivek141 and ravishingravi 2
singhvivek141 Posted September 29, 2024 Posted September 29, 2024 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Lannister said: Each yuga is said to span millions of years, yet modern humans have only existed for around 250,000 years. Science contradicts your belief. I agree, Science doen't agree with my faith. Not sure if it's science's limitation, coz we still haven't been able to capture the entirety of solar system and other galaxies. We aren't that advanced, so it's an ever going process. Few centuries back, science didn't agree that earth is round and revolves around sun. Infact, science don't agree with every religion's faith. You will find discrepancies and counter-arguments everywhere. Edited September 29, 2024 by singhvivek141 coffee_rules 1
zen Posted September 29, 2024 Author Posted September 29, 2024 30 minutes ago, AKane said: some Kalki Buddy, Kalki is supposed to be an avatar of Lord Vishnu. It is a good practice to be respectful and avoid terms such as “some”. For many, Gods are a part of the family. Laaloo, Chaos, singhvivek141 and 1 other 4
Lannister Posted September 29, 2024 Posted September 29, 2024 12 minutes ago, AKane said: This Abrahamic religions all equate to one thing - as Christina Rosetti famously said in one of her poems.... "Sorrow's springs are the same" The sin committed by Eve(and Adam) of eating that stupid apple. I suggest we all people on earth give God back one damn apple each and say "Please get over it". I’m not quite sure what point you're trying to make here. Are you trying to suggest that Christianity is more plausible than Hinduism? Because, I believe all religions are simply man-made BS stories. Lord 1
Chaos Posted September 29, 2024 Posted September 29, 2024 2 minutes ago, Lannister said: I’m not quite sure what point you're trying to make here. Are you trying to suggest that Christianity is more plausible than Hinduism? Because, I believe all religions are simply man-made BS stories. ok shorty tyrion lannister, do u believe in aliens? Or is it man made too
Lannister Posted September 29, 2024 Posted September 29, 2024 20 minutes ago, Chaos said: so u believe science or religion?. U know u r part genetically alien? lol.. We are moving into some unknown territory here. What exactly do you mean by aliens?
AKane Posted September 29, 2024 Posted September 29, 2024 6 minutes ago, Lannister said: Because, I believe all religions are simply man-made BS stories. They are certainly simplistic. I do believe there is something there beyond this existance but it is beyond our capacity to understand. No religion explains it well.
Chaos Posted September 29, 2024 Posted September 29, 2024 @Lord @Trichromatic @Austin 3:!6 i believe this thread should be locked. It will only get uglier and nasty. coffee_rules 1
coffee_rules Posted September 29, 2024 Posted September 29, 2024 13 minutes ago, Lannister said: I’m not quite sure what point you're trying to make here. Are you trying to suggest that Christianity is more plausible than Hinduism? Because, I believe all religions are simply man-made BS stories. He’s been Robert Caldwell preaching Christianity throughout this thread, if you can catch the drift. Chaos 1
Chaos Posted September 29, 2024 Posted September 29, 2024 @zen no offense bro. People r talking non sense, we will never go extinct. Ill create 100 babies a month if i have to. coffee_rules 1
zen Posted September 29, 2024 Author Posted September 29, 2024 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Chaos said: @zen no offense bro. People r talking non sense, we will never go extinct. I’create 100 babies a month if i have to. Some folks think it is fashionable to do stuff like “show me God”, “why this or that”, etc., using stuff they learned in school. And many of these folks find it easy to blame religion for all their miseries. Let them Edited September 29, 2024 by zen Chaos 1
Lannister Posted September 29, 2024 Posted September 29, 2024 11 minutes ago, AKane said: They are certainly simplistic. I do believe there is something there beyond this existance but it is beyond our capacity to understand. No religion explains it well. I find it a bit pointless to dwell on those questions. We only have one life and in each moment, it's just your mind, your consciousness, your capacity to experience suffering or happiness. That's all that matters.
AKane Posted September 29, 2024 Posted September 29, 2024 13 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: He’s been Robert Caldwell preaching Christianity throughout this thread, if you can catch the drift. The thread is about extinction of a religion. Norway to New Zealand. Alaska to Argentina...... Capiche? Finito.
AKane Posted September 29, 2024 Posted September 29, 2024 15 minutes ago, zen said: And many of these folks find it easy to blame religion for all their miseries. Some of us refuse to thank "God" for all that is good and blame "Karma/Devil/Shaitan" for all that is bad. You see this is how it goes.... Abrahamic religions Good - God gets credit Bad - Devil or Shaitan gets blame. Hinduism Good - God gets credit Bad - Karma gets blame. But whatever floats your boat.
zen Posted September 29, 2024 Author Posted September 29, 2024 4 minutes ago, AKane said: Some of us refuse to thank "God" for all that is good and blame "Karma/Devil/Shaitan" for all that is bad. You see this is how it goes.... Abrahamic religions Good - God gets credit Bad - Devil or Shaitan gets blame. Hinduism Good - God gets credit Bad - Karma gets blame. But whatever floats your boat. I follow Hinduism so can only speak for it (the thread is on Hinduism too). Nothing wrong with thanking God for good and taking responsibility for the bad (karma). It is the same thing with parents. You praise them if something good happens to you, and take responsibility for your own actions if things turn bad.
Lannister Posted September 29, 2024 Posted September 29, 2024 11 minutes ago, AKane said: Some of us refuse to thank "God" for all that is good and blame "Karma/Devil/Shaitan" for all that is bad. You see this is how it goes.... Abrahamic religions Good - God gets credit Bad - Devil or Shaitan gets blame. Hinduism Good - God gets credit Bad - Karma gets blame. But whatever floats your boat. Yes, the concept of karma is sinister and evil and has been used to subjugate people. It is the basis of the caste system in our society.
AKane Posted September 29, 2024 Posted September 29, 2024 1 minute ago, zen said: I follow Hinduism so can only speak for it (the thread is on Hinduism too). Nothing wrong with thanking God for good and taking responsibility for the bad (karma). It is the same thing with parents. You praise them if something good happens to you, and take responsibility for your own actions if things turn bad. Ok - I certainly take responsibility for the bad that happens to me. Last person I will blame is God. But I refuse to thank God for the good that happens to me. You can play your all credit no blame game but I don't have to participate in the same.
zen Posted September 29, 2024 Author Posted September 29, 2024 1 minute ago, AKane said: Ok - I certainly take responsibility for the bad that happens to me. Last person I will blame is God. But I refuse to thank God for the good that happens to me. You can play your all credit no blame game but I don't have to participate in the same. I don’t think religion should be forced on anyone. It is a personal thing. The faith comes from your experiences, wisdom, culture in your home, etc. If someone does not follow God, he/she is the one missing out. No one else has anything to lose!
Chaos Posted September 29, 2024 Posted September 29, 2024 6 minutes ago, AKane said: Ok - I certainly take responsibility for the bad that happens to me. Last person I will blame is God. But I refuse to thank God for the good that happens to me. You can play your all credit no blame game but I don't have to participate in the same. Thank the pakistanis for ur good luck
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