bsriharsha Posted October 18 Posted October 18 To analyse karna , you've got to look at his circumstances. People end of the day are what circumstances make them out to be. He was in essence someone who was discarded by his birth mother because she had premarital sex. Stan AF and Lord 1 1
gattaca Posted October 20 Posted October 20 On 10/18/2025 at 5:36 AM, bsriharsha said: To analyse karna , you've got to look at his circumstances. People end of the day are what circumstances make them out to be. He was in essence someone who was discarded by his birth mother because she had premarital sex. Krishna has same situation was sent away from parents. Karna was raised by parents too he was not an orphan. Karna also didn’t stop draupadhi vastrapaharan. Karna also is not a great warrior as potrayed. Drone and Bhisma are the best in the Kauravas. It also an example no matter how good you are if you are in bad company you will make mistakes. This is a lesson for everyone. diga 1
vayuu1 Posted October 20 Posted October 20 Krishna,arjuna,bhima, yudhishthira,vidur,satyaki, Draupadi,vikarna, abhimanyu these are my favourite characters though I genuinely believe the most underrated warrior from kaurava side who caused far more devastation to pandavas camp was neither bhishma or drona or karna it was dron putra ashwathama not just on 18th day he was also instrumental in annihilation of rakshas army,if only he had overcome his fear of death he would have been unbelievably powerful
Chaos Posted October 20 Posted October 20 My fav: arjuna, bhishma, krishna, draupati, abhimanyu, ekalavya, bheema. Hated: Ashwatthama, duryoden, drish (blind pig) n his wife, shakuni, dushasana(for his disgusting cocky laugh).
Chaos Posted October 20 Posted October 20 My favorite part?, when sri krishna gave kurus soo many options to avoid war but at the end all he asked was 5 towns for 5 pandavas with no punishment of any kind. Then duryodhan says he wont even give an inch of a land. Lord 1
Nikhil_cric Posted October 20 Posted October 20 Generally like how flawed each and every character is and especially Krsna .
gattaca Posted October 20 Posted October 20 (edited) 3 hours ago, vayuu1 said: Krishna,arjuna,bhima, yudhishthira,vidur,satyaki, Draupadi,vikarna, abhimanyu these are my favourite characters though I genuinely believe the most underrated warrior from kaurava side who caused far more devastation to pandavas camp was neither bhishma or drona or karna it was dron putra ashwathama not just on 18th day he was also instrumental in annihilation of rakshas army,if only he had overcome his fear of death he would have been unbelievably powerful Ashwathama came in to light only after Bhisma and Drona fell. Bhisma and Drona couldnt be defeated normally just tell us you the fact they are great warriors. Bhisma couldn’t be defeated by any man or god. Drona also dropped his weapons only after he was fooled in to believing his son died. Drona also didn’t teach his son how to withdraw Brahmastra. He believed his son didn’t had the temperament. Edited October 20 by gattaca
singhvivek141 Posted October 20 Posted October 20 Shout Out for Shikhandi as well. He/she played a key role in the suppression of Bheeshma....despite facing several hurdles in his/her life, she took put the strongest commander in chief of Kauravas.
Chaos Posted October 20 Posted October 20 Arjuna and ashwatthama had brahmashira astra. Wonder why ash… used brahmastra instead if he wanted world to end. As that weapon can destroy even cosmos as it is 4 times powerful than brahmastra.
gattaca Posted October 20 Posted October 20 3 hours ago, singhvivek141 said: Shout Out for Shikhandi as well. He/she played a key role in the suppression of Bheeshma....despite facing several hurdles in his/her life, she took put the strongest commander in chief of Kauravas. But it was spite though. Shalva kumar was the culprit he didn’t want to marry her even though he loved her but got defeated by Bheeshma.
bsriharsha Posted October 21 Posted October 21 (edited) On 10/20/2025 at 6:31 AM, gattaca said: Krishna has same situation was sent away from parents. Karna was raised by parents too he was not an orphan. Karna also didn’t stop draupadhi vastrapaharan. Karna also is not a great warrior as potrayed. Drone and Bhisma are the best in the Kauravas. It also an example no matter how good you are if you are in bad company you will make mistakes. This is a lesson for everyone. Krishna was raised with full knowledge of who he was and was himself placed by his father. His cousin Karna didn't have that liberty. He was thrown away by his mother and had to endure taunts his own life. Karna was screwed over by his circumstances long before he made the decision to ally himself with duryodhana. And whether Karna is a great warrior or not , he defeated Jarasandha in arms combat and could well have killed him (without the prompting from Krishna). He could defeat four of the five Pandavas. Except Arjuna. Isn't that a compelling case ? Besides I'm not a particular fan of any character. I just like the story a lot. Edited October 21 by bsriharsha
bsriharsha Posted October 21 Posted October 21 17 hours ago, gattaca said: But it was spite though. Shalva kumar was the culprit he didn’t want to marry her even though he loved her but got defeated by Bheeshma. Don't think there was a king alive during those times who would accept his fiance being kidnapped by another man and believe she would still be pure.
Chaos Posted October 21 Posted October 21 2 minutes ago, bsriharsha said: Don't think there was a king alive during those times who would accept his fiance being kidnapped by another man and believe she would still be pure. I think two were flawed. She loved a king and wanted to marry him. But bheeshma kidnapped her n others. With the rage not getting married to the king she likes, and bheeshma not marrying her caused her lot pain. Bheeshma with his cockiness and his pride to stick to his word (not to marry n have kids) for his dad n the throne. So amba sacrificed herself in vengeance over this with shivas boon to be reborn n kill him. All this could have been avoided but it would also alter future events.
bsriharsha Posted October 21 Posted October 21 3 minutes ago, Chaos said: I think two were flawed. She loved a king and wanted to marry him. But bheeshma kidnapped her n others. With the rage not getting married to the king she likes, and bheeshma not marrying her caused her lot pain. Bheeshma with his cockiness and his pride to stick to his word (not to marry n have kids) for his dad n the throne. So amba sacrificed herself in vengeance over this with shivas boon to be reborn n kill him. All this could have been avoided but it would also alter future events. Mahabharata in that sense is a story of whole bunch of flawed individuals
bsriharsha Posted October 21 Posted October 21 Ashwatthama in essence wasn't a bad guy either. He counselled peace with the Pandavas multiple times over t It was only the loss of his father which threw him over the deepend
Lone Wolf Posted October 21 Posted October 21 20 hours ago, Chaos said: Arjuna and ashwatthama had brahmashira astra. Wonder why ash… used brahmastra instead if he wanted world to end. As that weapon can destroy even cosmos as it is 4 times powerful than brahmastra. Karna was given Vasavi Shakti (weapon) it is a guaranteed kill but he was allowed to use only once by Indra. Among Mortals only Meghnad (Indrajit) is the lone warrior who had the ability to use it multiple times. Lord Lakshman is the only sole survivor of this weapon. As per Valmiki Ramayana... No weapon comes close to Brahmastra in terms of sheer annihilation. Vishwamitra rated it above Brahmashira... He used Brahmashira on Rishi Vashisht.. but wasn't able to defeat him. And used Brahmastra as last resort. Most brutal use of Brahmastra is listed in Valmiki Ramayana... Meghnad in 2 hours roughly killed 67 crore vanaras and exterminated half of their race almost by using Brahmastra. Both Mahabharat and Ramayana haven't seen that much destruction that those 2 hours witnessed.
Chaos Posted October 21 Posted October 21 2 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said: Karna was given Vasavi Shakti (weapon) it is a guaranteed kill but he was allowed to use only once by Indra. Among Mortals only Meghnad (Indrajit) is the lone warrior who had the ability to use it multiple times. Lord Lakshman is the only sole survivor of this weapon. As per Valmiki Ramayana... No weapon comes close to Brahmastra in terms of sheer annihilation. Vishwamitra rated it above Brahmashira... He used Brahmashira on Rishi Vashisht.. but wasn't able to defeat him. And used Brahmastra as last resort. Most brutal use of Brahmastra is listed in Valmiki Ramayana... Meghnad in 2 hours roughly killed 67 crore vanaras and exterminated half of their race almost by using Brahmastra. Both Mahabharat and Ramayana haven't seen that much destruction that those 2 hours witnessed. then ill use brahmananda astra (better than all brahma astras). Lot of people got brahma astras n other ones. But my bet would be brahmanda adtra (five heads of brahma), brahmashira (depends on weilder n purpose, which can cause absolute chaos) and pashupati astra. If i was given a boon ill choose first and pashupati astras any day. But that takes ages of insane meditation and knowledge. No human can survive that long.
Chaos Posted October 21 Posted October 21 11 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said: Karna was given Vasavi Shakti (weapon) it is a guaranteed kill but he was allowed to use only once by Indra. Among Mortals only Meghnad (Indrajit) is the lone warrior who had the ability to use it multiple times. Lord Lakshman is the only sole survivor of this weapon. As per Valmiki Ramayana... No weapon comes close to Brahmastra in terms of sheer annihilation. Vishwamitra rated it above Brahmashira... He used Brahmashira on Rishi Vashisht.. but wasn't able to defeat him. And used Brahmastra as last resort. Most brutal use of Brahmastra is listed in Valmiki Ramayana... Meghnad in 2 hours roughly killed 67 crore vanaras and exterminated half of their race almost by using Brahmastra. Both Mahabharat and Ramayana haven't seen that much destruction that those 2 hours witnessed. indrajit was given “almost” an invincible being. But the major flaw in his boon was showering in golden lake before wars. In that water n meditation he is mere mortal. Gods dont give boons without loop holes. No one will have time for meditation in water when enemies r inside ur fort. So people with brains killed him assisted by vibhishana strategy n knowledge.
Lone Wolf Posted October 21 Posted October 21 2 minutes ago, Chaos said: then ill use brahmananda astra (better than all brahma astras). Lot of people got brahma astras n other ones. But my bet would be brahmanda adtra (five heads of brahma), brahmashira (depends on weilder n purpose, which can cause absolute chaos) and pashupati astra. If i was given a boon ill choose first and pashupati astras any day. But that takes ages of insane meditation and knowledge. No human can survive that long. You want a sole guaranteed kill... Nothing better than Vasavi Shakti though. Every warrior fears that weapon. Comes with no strings attached. There is not a lot of mention about Brahmanda Astra is our epics it is usually mixed with Brahmashira and Brahmastra... Both Ramayana and Mahabharata only mention 2 Brahma astras. It's status is up in the air mostly. If it exists it would likely be possessed only by three supreme powers.
Chaos Posted October 21 Posted October 21 4 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said: You want a sole guaranteed kill... Nothing better than Vasavi Shakti though. Every warrior fears that weapon. Comes with no strings attached. There is not a lot of mention about Brahmanda Astra is our epics it is usually mixed with Brahmashira and Brahmastra... Both Ramayana and Mahabharata only mention 2 Brahma astras. It's status is up in the air mostly. If it exists it would likely be possessed only by three supreme powers. weapon with no mind is useless. Just like how krishna made ghatokacha fight n duryodan made karna use that weapon on him. So weapon with no brainless mind is easily avoidable.
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