zen Posted November 5, 2024 Posted November 5, 2024 (edited) 52 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said: More illegal immigrants from Haryana Rajasthan facilitated by GoI is what we need. Nah. Need to limit immigration. Most who have come in the last decade are not even citizens. They need to be sent back if possible. No point in turning other countries into Ind’s battle grounds. Edited November 5, 2024 by zen Vicks57 1
zen Posted November 5, 2024 Posted November 5, 2024 Just now, Vicks57 said: Only a naive person would believe that. Already conservatives are accused of being pro-india and refused to call out Indian diplomats. https://www.thehindu.com/news/international/canadian-hindu-organisations-dismayed-after-lop-poilievre-cancels-diwali-celebrations/article68814534.ece No Diwali celebrations have been cancelled unless you are judging things based on how Diwali is celebrated in India. In fact, politicians have done photo ops at various events. Vicks57 1
zen Posted November 5, 2024 Posted November 5, 2024 1 minute ago, Vicks57 said: Read the article man. Pierre has cancelled his participation at the last minute. They have postponed the event to a different date and now some MP from same party is participating in it. No idea why you are going on a tangent about crackers. What article? (That too from an Indian newspaper not many even read overseas). There can be some individual events getting moved around (Diwali is not politics). But Diwali is celebrated in Canada: https://youtu.be/NMJAVw_qsG0?feature=shared
zen Posted November 5, 2024 Posted November 5, 2024 8 minutes ago, Vicks57 said: People can celebrate Diwali man. It's the political party(conservative) participation in it which happens every year. You really need to read the article. The Hindu leans on the left side and it is one of the most reputed newspaper in India. Are you saying all indian newspapers are inferior to foreign ones? Here is your Canadian source. But it is behind a paywall https://www.thestar.com/politics/federal/indo-canadian-community-feeling-betrayed-after-conservative-mp-cancels-national-diwali-event/article_ed8c48b0-97a4-11ef-b116-23ed731f42ef.html Not a big issue if an event is cancelled or moved around. People celebrate Diwali as always (and there are multiple events): Vicks57 1
zen Posted November 5, 2024 Posted November 5, 2024 One aspect that I like about Canada is that people from all countries can mingle with each other - Indians, Pakistanis, Bangladeshis, Sri Lankans, Iranians, Israelis, Chinese, etc. Good to see the support from various quarters at the Hindu Sabha temple: Let’s not make a few bad apples spoil the environment! diga 1
zen Posted November 5, 2024 Posted November 5, 2024 A video of an Indian lady stealing stuff on Diwali which fell on the same day as Halloween this time: Link Let’s not abuse respect, freedom and welcome that we get to turn every place into a nightmare. Indian RW nonsense with their conspiracy theories (and “nonsense”such as what about this?) should ideally be limited to India. Even the social media tweets limited to Indian region. There is an anecdote of Guru Nanak traveling around. At one village, he was treated nicely, and at another village, he was treated badly. He blessed the first village saying that this village breaks up, and he blessed the second village by saying that this village remains intact. When his disciple inquired that why did he bless the good village to break up, Guru Nanak said that he wants the people of the good village to spread their goodness all around. While he wants the bad people of the second village to be confined to that village. You decide what blessing India deserves!
zen Posted November 5, 2024 Posted November 5, 2024 Now the guy below is asking people to storm Gurudwaras: Such nonsense (from both sides) has to stop. mishra 1
mishra Posted November 5, 2024 Posted November 5, 2024 17 hours ago, Ranvir said: Obviously Hindus must've started it if they got arrested. Sikhs don't attack unless provoked. Use common sense. Its location where it happened that matters. Was it in front of Hindu temple or Gurudwara? Why would a Sikh go and attack Hindu temple when they actually worship in Hindu temples too. Kanedian Terrorists are nothing to do with Khalasa and Sikhism. They have hijacked the religious institutions of Sikhism. Same happened in Birmingham and Liecester in UK. Pakistanis came and attacked Hindu Temple. Location of violence and target was Hindu Temple zen 1
mishra Posted November 5, 2024 Posted November 5, 2024 1 hour ago, zen said: Now the guy below is asking people to storm Gurudwaras: Such nonsense (from both sides) has to stop. This is How riots happen. You dont attack a religious institutions and worshippers and dont expect someone saying we should do same. Its called collapse of law and order. Such collapse is expected in developing countries where administration lacks manpower money and intelligence. In developed world , it happens only if the Government wants it. Think of Political Power Hindus and Sikh will weild in Canada if such animosity is not cultivated by white MAsters. Both Sikhs and Hindu groups are Chewt
zen Posted November 5, 2024 Posted November 5, 2024 5 minutes ago, mishra said: Both Sikhs and Hindu groups are Chewt The issue is that people in subcon look for a confrontation so they can be exploited (if someone wants to): Ind v Pak Ind v BD Ind v China Ind v SL Ind v Nepal Ind v Maldives Ind v … Hindu v Muslims GOI v Kashmir GOI v Punjab (Khalistan issue) GOI v … State X v State Y Caste A v Caste B So many problems, and they manifest everywhere … When Indians go abroad, they should leave their domestic problems behind
Mariyam Posted November 5, 2024 Posted November 5, 2024 1 hour ago, zen said: Now the guy below is asking people to storm Gurudwaras: Such nonsense (from both sides) has to stop. Not that I support what he is saying, but your stand here is duplicitous. When Pannun threatens Air India and calls for assassinations of Indian leaders/ consular staff, you are quick to call it freedom of expression. Fair, I suppose. When a no name protestor does the same, you are not willing to accord the same freedom to him. What gives?
zen Posted November 5, 2024 Posted November 5, 2024 (edited) 1 hour ago, Mariyam said: Not that I support what he is saying, but your stand here is duplicitous. When Pannun threatens Air India and calls for assassinations of Indian leaders/ consular staff, you are quick to call it freedom of expression. Fair, I suppose. When a no name protestor does the same, you are not willing to accord the same freedom to him. What gives? Freedom of expression to speak our mind out (in this case, on the general Khalistani topic). I have not agreed with Pannun. I see Pannun (and other such Khalistanis) as toothless. He is a loser. No one (highly unlikely scenario) is going to bomb AI or assassinate based on his call. He is doing such to keep his biz going (donations). Which is why I criticized GOI for making heroes out of such losers and giving them a platform which is now impacting both Indians and people of Indian origin overseas. Also for a botched up operations which has made RAW a laughing stock of intelligence community. I have criticized the Trudeau govt for being hijacked by Jagmeet’s agenda (politics). The guy in the video is needlessly fuelling sentiments (not a representative of general Hindu voice and feelings much like Khalistanis do not represent all Sikhs) at a time when other communities (including Sikh) are coming together to support Hindus. What he is advocating leads to nowhere. He is also using foul language at a temple with kids and families around. This is unacceptable. I think you have got me wrong! All the time, I am writing against what I perceive as wrong actions (when most folks pick a side and try to provide over-the-top support by hook or crook). Unlike most people here, I have connections with India, Canada, Hindus, Sikhs, and so on. To a certain extent, the only clear side for me to pick is of Hinduism. I don’t want the Hindus to be like the Khalistanis (see I am not saying Sikhs). When we see Islamic extremism, there is a wide complaint that why moderate Muslims do not speak out. Here, there is no reason for such a complain as I am speaking out against such extremist Hindus (and GOI too where I have written against its inaction to protect Hindus in BD and the folly of its action in Canada). Many Sikhs have spoken out against Khalistanis too! Edited November 5, 2024 by zen Mariyam 1
diga Posted November 6, 2024 Posted November 6, 2024 Hindu organisations have banned all politicians from all parties in Temples until they address the Khalistani problem...
vvvslaxman Posted November 6, 2024 Posted November 6, 2024 19 hours ago, Vicks57 said: Retaliation should be political, organised and legal. Not some random weapon brandishing, illegal gathering. This goes everywhere even in India where some muslim elements too far. They are shooting themselves in the foot.
zen Posted November 6, 2024 Posted November 6, 2024 (edited) Didn’t want this. Such RW extremism is a menace! This will likely sink Ind’s reputation further! Edited November 6, 2024 by zen
zen Posted November 6, 2024 Posted November 6, 2024 (edited) Another PoV on this as these people live in Canada too. Edited November 6, 2024 by zen
mishra Posted November 6, 2024 Posted November 6, 2024 This Trudeau thread and K Terror issue ended with Trump victory. No more nudget left to feed on.
Ranvir Posted November 8, 2024 Posted November 8, 2024 The best thing is for the two communities to live in seperate areas. Hindus should avoid places like Brampton and Southall. Sikhs should avoid Leicester and Wembley. I live in what used to be a Sikh majority neighbourhood but over the past 10 years there has been a large influx of Hindus from India.
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