Gautam Gambhir performance as coach

[Manucrick]

42 minutes ago, deepdynamo said:

Too many red marks for Gambhir in ODIs and Test. Rightly so. Obsession with bits n pieces cricketers is killing us in both long form format.
 

Tests:
Won 2-0 vs BD (home)
Lost 0-3 vs NZ (home)

Lost 1-3 vs AUS (away)

Drew 2-2 vs ENG (away)

Won 2-0 vs WI (home)

Lost 0-2 vs SA (home)

ODIs:
Lost 0-2 vs SL ( away)
Won 3-0 vs ENG (home)

WON Champions Trophy 2025 
Lost 1-2 vs AUS ( away)

Won 2-1 vs SA (home)

Lost 1-2 vs NZ ( home)

T20s:
Won 3-0 vs SL (away)
Won 3-0 vs BD (home)
Won 4-1 vs ENG (home)

WON Asia Cup 2025 

Won 2-1 vs Aus (away)

Won 3-1 vs SA (home)

 

With gg or without gg our t20 team do well but we need a regular coach for test and odi

[tapandrun]

Team is showing and going in downwards trends, losing to B/c level team in home condition when Ind is playing near to full strength.

This NZ series could have been clean sweep if there was no timely drop catches from NZ in the 1st game, even SA could have been series loss if they could have chased in the 1st game.  

 

The issues that were already there in the past have not been resolved till now.

 

• Bating style is monotonous
• There are no LH batters in top 5
• Amongst top 5 no-one bowls
• There are no wkt takers in the mo
• There is no power in the batting side.

 

[putrevus]

58 minutes ago, tapandrun said:

Team is showing and going in downwards trends, losing to B/c level team in home condition when Ind is playing near to full strength.

This NZ series could have been clean sweep if there was no timely drop catches from NZ in the 1st game, even SA could have been series loss if they could have chased in the 1st game.  

 

The issues that were already there in the past have not been resolved till now.

 

• Bating style is monotonous
• There are no LH batters in top 5
• Amongst top 5 no-one bowls
• There are no wkt takers in the mo
• There is no power in the batting side.

 

There is no need to have LHB just to have LHB.There is no need for top four to bowl either.NZ top four don't bowl either much.

 

Rahul is WK.Top 3 not bowling has never been a problem as they have been best with bat till Dhawan was there.Gill has not taken that next step.

 

Indian spinners and bowlers in general have no ability to defend totals plus with Kuldeep not picking wickets there is no wicket taking spinner.

 

Fast bowlers in general stink. Youngsters have to take the onus of carrying the batting now but they have not done it.

Edited January 19 by putrevus

[tapandrun]

27 minutes ago, putrevus said:

There is no need to have LHB just to have LHB.There is no need for top four to bowl either.NZ top four don't bowl either much.

 

Rahul is WK.Top 3 not bowling has never been a problem as they have been best with bat till Dhawan was there.Gill has not taken that next step.

 

Indian spinners and bowlers in general have no ability to defend totals plus with Kuldeep not picking wickets there is no wicket taking spinner.

 

Fast bowlers in general stink. Youngsters have to take the onus of carrying the batting now but they have not done it.

 

Yes no need for player just for the sake of it, but Ind batters does not play/score on those spinner who leaves rh  batters because Ind batter does not play sweeps/reverse or ramp, Ind batters are not able to take them down so you need batters who can do it ,easy fix is to get a LH batter.

 

Think Ashwin also talked about it how Ind is playing spin, other team are playing better than Ind and able to put Ind spinners under pressure.

 

Yes Gill has not taken it step further , dhawal had good 100s vs good teams, not sure gill has modern day game in him, neither is he aggressive nor he is able to play big innings.

Kuldeep + Jadeja is not getting wkts, plus if you look Kuldeep's record  vs sena only vs SA his number are good otherwise his numbers can be seen with visible spike.

 

Faster bowlers they wasted time with Mukesh, Avesh, Unadkat etc...now they do not have replacements ... They dropped Siraj from CT saying he is nt a wkt taker in mo or in the last over and he is back in the side. They do not have consistent thought process.

 

Reddy is traveling with side for nothing and when he plays he does not bowl much what is the point, are they just trying to show Pandaya that if you do not play we have some option ...

 

If senior bowlers are not making impact how can the newer bowler can do it??? Sairaj,, kuldeep, jadeja they should take bunch of wkts ...

 

 

 

 

Edited January 19 by tapandrun

[putrevus]

3 minutes ago, tapandrun said:

 

Yes no need for player just for the sake of it, but Ind batters does not play/score on those spinner who leaves rh  batters because Ind batter does not play sweeps/reverse or ramp, Ind batters are not able to take them down so you need batters who can do it ,easy fix is to get a LH batter.

 

Think Ashwin also talked about it how Ind is playing spin, other team are playing better than Ind and able to put Ind spinners under pressure.

 

Yes Gill has not taken it step further , dhawal had good 100s vs good teams, not sure gill has modern day game in him, neither is he aggressive nor he is able to play big innings.

Kuldeep + Jadeja is not getting wkts, plus if you look Kuldeep's record  vs sena only vs SA his number are good otherwise his numbers can be seen with visible spike.

 

Faster bowlers they waisted time with Mukesh, Avesh, Unadkat etc...now they do not have replacements ... They dropped Siraj from CT saying he is nt a wkt taker in mo or in the last over and he is back in the side. They do not have consistent thought process.

 

Reddy is traveling with side for nothing and when he plays he does not bowl much what is the point, are they just trying to show Pandaya that if you do not play we have some option ...

 

If senior bowlers are not making impact how can the newer bowler can do it??? Sairaj,, kuldeep, jadeja they should take bunch of wkts ...

 

 

 

 

I don't think attacking spin bowlers is the problem .Every batsman has to find his own method to score runs. Gill has scored very very soft runs.He needs to put his hand up and take the next step.

 

Iyer who is he that question needs to be answered. Jaiswal can be tried at number 4 also.I don't see any reason why he cannot be number 4.

 

Jadeja was done two years ago.There is no reason for jadeja to be in the side, they should have tried a young SLA in his place.

[Malcolm Merlyn]

Akhand chu tiyapa. In hindi

[deepdynamo]

27 minutes ago, putrevus said:

There is no need to have LHB just to have LHB.There is no need for top four to bowl either.NZ top four don't bowl either much.

 

Rahul is WK.Top 3 not bowling has never been a problem as they have been best with bat till Dhawan was there.Gill has not taken that next step.

 

Indian spinners and bowlers in general have no ability to defend totals plus with Kuldeep not picking wickets there is no wicket taking spinner.

 

Fast bowlers in general stink. Youngsters have to take the onus of carrying the batting now but they have not done it.

 

Actually we do have LHB that are good- Jaiswal, Tilak or even Sai. On top of that, Tilak can bowl as well.

Don't like that we are again going with the same batting lineup as in 2023. Good team will again find loopholes for Gill, Rohit, Kohli, Iyer & KL. All of these batsman are playing for years and there is no novelty in their batting. Throw in some young LHB there ( Jaiswal and Tilak) and see how it transform the batting with all bits n pieces removed. Suddently, the batting looking powerful with the 5th bowler quota covered by Pandya and Tilak.

Gill

Jaiswal
Kohli
Tilak
Iyer
KL
Pandya
Rana

Kuldeep
Bumrah
Arshdeep/Siraj

 

Bowling is a problem with Kuldeep losing his mojo. But that is another matter to be sort. Maybe Bumrah can reenergize the attack.

[tapandrun]

15 minutes ago, putrevus said:

I don't think attacking spin bowlers is the problem .Every batsman has to find his own method to score runs. Gill has scored very very soft runs.He needs to put his hand up and take the next step.

 

Iyer who is he that question needs to be answered. Jaiswal can be tried at number 4 also.I don't see any reason why he cannot be number 4.

 

Jadeja was done two years ago.There is no reason for jadeja to be in the side, they should have tried a young SLA in his place.

More you see gill more it looks like he is not suited for modern day white-ball game. Rohit and Kolhi have more shots than him, they can play at higher tempo than him.

 

Have posted this several time in context to t20i team if there are multiple Openers and not many mo batters than Ind needs to try them in mo its same for Odis.

 

Jadeja in white-ball was done long back, but they are trying ppl like sundar in place of him how sundar is any upgrade on him ???

  

 

 

Edited January 19 by tapandrun

[putrevus]

3 minutes ago, tapandrun said:

More you see gill more it looks like he is not suited for modern day white-ball game. Rohit and Kolhi have more shots than him, they can play at higher tempo than him.

 

Have posted this several time in context to t20i team if there are multiple Openers and not many mo batters than Ind needs to try them in mo its same for Odis.

 

Jadeja in white-ball was done long back, but they are trying ppl like sundar in place of him how sundar is any upgrade on him ???

  

 

 

Making Gill a captain before he is a certain starter was a big mistake. His captaincy is very average, he does not look like he has control or feel for the game.The selection has been the problem, they are not giving good youngsters who can replace guy like  Jadeja a chance.

 

I don't know why Sundar  is playing whiteball cricket.

[putrevus]

11 minutes ago, deepdynamo said:

 

Actually we do have LHB that are good- Jaiswal, Tilak or even Sai. On top of that, Tilak can bowl as well.

Don't like that we are again going with the same batting lineup as in 2023. Good team will again find loopholes for Gill, Rohit, Kohli, Iyer & KL. All of these batsman are playing for years and there is no novelty in their batting. Throw in some young LHB there ( Jaiswal and Tilak) and see how it transform the batting with all bits n pieces removed. Suddently, the batting looking powerful with the 5th bowler quota covered by Pandya and Tilak.

Gill

Jaiswal
Kohli
Tilak
Iyer
KL
Pandya
Rana

Kuldeep
Bumrah
Arshdeep/Siraj

 

Bowling is a problem with Kuldeep losing his mojo. But that is another matter to be sort. Maybe Bumrah can reenergize the attack.

Tilak is not bowling in t20s so him becoming a bowler in odis is a pipe dream.Jaiswal should be tried even in middle order.

Biggest worry is bowling.Shami covered lot of holes in last world cup.

 

I don't think Sai belongs in international cricket.

[Lord]

12 hours ago, Suhaan said:

Isko T20 WC ke theek pehle dump kar dena chahiye 

Ind playing a WC without a specialist coach is not new

 

T20 is his best format actually

[tapandrun]

1 hour ago, deepdynamo said:

 

Actually we do have LHB that are good- Jaiswal, Tilak or even Sai. On top of that, Tilak can bowl as well.

Don't like that we are again going with the same batting lineup as in 2023. Good team will again find loopholes for Gill, Rohit, Kohli, Iyer & KL. All of these batsman are playing for years and there is no novelty in their batting. Throw in some young LHB there ( Jaiswal and Tilak) and see how it transform the batting with all bits n pieces removed. Suddently, the batting looking powerful with the 5th bowler quota covered by Pandya and Tilak.

Gill

Jaiswal
Kohli
Tilak
Iyer
KL
Pandya
Rana

Kuldeep
Bumrah
Arshdeep/Siraj

 

Bowling is a problem with Kuldeep losing his mojo. But that is another matter to be sort. Maybe Bumrah can reenergize the attack.

 

Tilak has shown tendencies where if he is not trying to hit the ball he gets stuck which is not suited for Odis, need player who can get 4/6 without taking much risk in the middle overs.

 

May want to look at VHT+Ranji top performers for that, over the years Ind have produced good mo batter based on VHT+Ranji.

 

Sai has not been able to score anything at intnl level, plus his FC record is not as good 

 

 

 

Edited January 19 by tapandrun

[Suhaan]

55 minutes ago, Lord said:

 

T20 is his best format actually

Yeah,we saw his genius Gill move

[putrevus]

1 hour ago, Lord said:

 

T20 is his best format actually

No it is not, they have not won anything in t20s either. Asia cup against 8th or 9th ranked  teams is not a great achievement.He tried to screw that up too with Gill.

[Lord]

6 hours ago, Suhaan said:

Yeah,we saw his genius Gill move

 

Not there in WT20. He desperately wants to win WT20 now

[Frustrated]

7 minutes ago, Lord said:

 

Not there in WT20. He desperately wants to win WT20 now

SKY is perfectly capable of fulfilling the role of useless Gill in T20.  I m sure SKY will end up with 10 from 15 ball type of inning in most matches.  That will ensure not only our early exit from the tournament but also GG's exit from Head Coach (in a way it's good, LOL)

[kosingh]

Are there any Gambhir supporters? Feels like everyone is against Gambhir. Indians from all states, religions, linguistic backgrounds, political affiliations all seem to be united against Gambhir. 

[Frustrated]

4 hours ago, kosingh said:

Are there any Gambhir supporters? Feels like everyone is against Gambhir. Indians from all states, religions, linguistic backgrounds, political affiliations all seem to be united against Gambhir. 

BCCI officials want GG to continue forever.  That's why they didn't even bother to conduct a review meeting after Ind's continued disastrous series losses on home soil. (Incl latest odi series loss to Kiwi C team)

[Lord]

5 hours ago, kosingh said:

Are there any Gambhir supporters? Feels like everyone is against Gambhir. Indians from all states, religions, linguistic backgrounds, political affiliations all seem to be united against Gambhir. 

 

They are in this thread too

[speedster]

GG has to be luckiest coach, irrespective of how he does now, his legacy will of the coach who led to whitewashes, expecting the same in NZ and against Australia. BCCI being the inept group of jokers that they are will still sleepwalk through this period