Gautam Gambhir performance as coach

[deepdynamo]

Gambhir has done it. An ICC trophy in his very first event.

 

 

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Tests:
Won 2-0 vs BD (home)
Lost 0-3 vs NZ (home)

Lost 1-3 vs AUS (away)

ODIs:
Lost 0-2 vs SL ( away)
Won 3-0 vs ENG (home)

WON CT 2025 

T20s:
Won 3-0 vs SL (away)
Won 3-0 vs BD (home)}
Won 4-1 vs ENG (home)

[Frustrated]

GG should be retained as Head Coach for whiteball format.  But we seriously need a different HeadCoach for test. 

[lemsip]

GG is lucky that he has essentially the same team that played in 2023 under Dravid for ODIs. Bumrah is missing but Varun is new. Apart from that it is the same team playing int he same style under the same captain. I wouldn't put the result down to GG.

He is doing OK in white ball cricket but the whole setup needs shaking up in tests. GG is too toxic an influence plus he really does not have any man management or coaching credentials. I particularly fear for pant's career under GG as he seems to have an instictive aversion to him. A better coach would build a new team around the young proven payers in tests like Jaiswal, Pant and firmly call the time on the passengers.

[adi B]

So both GG and Dravid have won more ICC tournaments than that Bewda Shastri !

All talk no bite 

[Gollum]

Just now, adi B said:

So both GG and Dravid have won more ICC tournaments than that Bewda Shastri !

All talk no bite 

Boss, what Shastri and Arun pulled off in Australia after 36 all out, even 5 ICC titles won't match that greatness. 

[Nikhil_cric]

4 minutes ago, Gollum said:

Boss, what Shastri and Arun pulled off in Australia after 36 all out, even 5 ICC titles won't match that greatness. 

I disagree with this. Winning white ball tournaments requires a certain level of analysis and selection which Shastri/Kohli were clearly incapable of

 

Rohit has his flaws but it only shows what a gigantic failure Shastri/Kohli were in white ball cricket. 

 

 

Edited March 9 by Nikhil_cric

[adi B]

Gambo's resume As A player/Captain :

 

WC,WT20 ,IPL winner 

 

As a coach/Mentor :

 

IPL and CT winner .

 

Has been a Lucky mascot for his team tbh

[adi B]

5 minutes ago, Gollum said:

Boss, what Shastri and Arun pulled off in Australia after 36 all out, even 5 ICC titles won't match that greatness. 

Exactly .

Different coaches for different formats is the key .

Gambo seems like a White ball coach right now ,shastri wasn't 

[Gollum]

Just now, Nikhil_cric said:

I disagree with this. Winning white ball tournaments requires a certain level of analysis and selection which Shastri/Kohli were clearly incapable of

 

Rohit has his flaws but it only shows what a gigantic failure Shastri/Kohli were in white ball cricket. 

 

 

Likewise test cricket needs something different which Dravid lacked, and where GG has been inadequate. 

 

Personally will always rate test cricket highest, so I have a bias. 

[Gollum]

Just now, adi B said:

Exactly .

Different coaches for different formats is the key .

Gambo seems like a White ball coach right now ,shastri wasn't 

Yeah, Gambo may be more like Ancelotti, better in KO format. 

[Nikhil_cric]

1 minute ago, Gollum said:

Likewise test cricket needs something different which Dravid lacked, and where GG has been inadequate. 

 

Personally will always rate test cricket highest, so I have a bias. 

You need the players in Test cricket. We were fortunate enough to have a pace attack of Bumrah, Shami, Ishant, Siraj all at their best and a guy like Pujara to bat time. 

 

We aren't producing that level of red ball cricketers at the moment. 

 

 

[Gollum]

Gambo may not be able to handle mavericks like Pant. 

[adi B]

1 minute ago, Gollum said:

Yeah, Gambo may be more like Ancelotti, better in KO format. 

Yeah looks like a cup format coach, not a league one !

[Gollum]

Just now, Nikhil_cric said:

You need the players in Test cricket. We were fortunate enough to have a pace attack of Bumrah, Shami, Ishant, Siraj all at their best and a guy like Pujara to bat time. 

 

We aren't producing that level of red ball cricketers at the moment. 

 

 

Bumrah got picked out of nowhere in 2017 RSA. Ishant hit his peak in Shastri-Kohli regime. They got the best out of fast bowlers, built the team around ability to take 20 wickets.

 

Dravid went back to trundler route and spinning tracks at home. 

 

GG do I even need to say anything? 

Edited March 9 by Gollum

[Nikhil_cric]

32 minutes ago, Gollum said:

Bumrah got picked out of nowhere in 2017 RSA. Ishant hit his peak in Shastri-Kohli regime. They got the best out of fast bowlers, built the team around ability to take 20 wickets.

 

Dravid went back to trundler route and spinning tracks at home. 

 

GG do I even need to say anything? 

But we had those players just waiting to be selected. Even guys like Umesh performed in Asia.

 

Our white ball stocks are far superior to red ball cricketers being produced now. 

 

Back then we could still afford to , if needed, protect our Test bowling pace attack from bowling too much in T20 cricket etc. 

 

It's not possible now. 

[putrevus]

I didn’t think he did anything great, I will give him credit for bringing in VC .

 

Bracewell was best bowler in finals so who knows how Sundar would have done.

[deepdynamo]

Didn't have high hopes from GG in ODI after debacle in tests. But he proved so many people wrong. His best format is T20 though and he will a force in upcoming T20 tournaments- Asia Cup T20 & T20 World Cup.

[mikeypbadana86]

10 hours ago, Nikhil_cric said:

I disagree with this. Winning white ball tournaments requires a certain level of analysis and selection which Shastri/Kohli were clearly incapable of

 

Rohit has his flaws but it only shows what a gigantic failure Shastri/Kohli were in white ball cricket. 

 

 

To be fair to Kohli/Shastri, both their ICC tournament losses ( 2017 CT and 2019 ODI world cup) were in England where the odds were not overwhelming favourable unlike the slow-dry conditions in west indies/Dubai which played to indias advantage.

 

Under Kohli/Shastri, India definetly was a great test team. Had it not rained and the match not got pushed to next day  in 2019 ODI world cup semis , the results could have been different. 

 

[Nikhil_cric]

1 hour ago, mikeypbadana86 said:

To be fair to Kohli/Shastri, both their ICC tournament losses ( 2017 CT and 2019 ODI world cup) were in England where the odds were not overwhelming favourable unlike the slow-dry conditions in west indies/Dubai which played to indias advantage.

 

Under Kohli/Shastri, India definetly was a great test team. Had it not rained and the match not got pushed to next day  in 2019 ODI world cup semis , the results could have been different. 

 

2021 World T20 was in Dubai. First round KO 

[Ravi_Shastri]

12 hours ago, adi B said:

So both GG and Dravid have won more ICC tournaments than that Bewda Shastri !

All talk no bite 

Just like u crying in every match thread how India gonna lose