Gautam Gambhir performance as coach

[raki05]

21 minutes ago, rangeelaraja said:

Dropping the biggest names in Indian cricket is outside the pay grade of selectors. It is outside their aaukat. Has never happened in our history. These messages are passed subtly through Chairman. Like Ganguly conveying to Kohli that he is being replaced as captain.  So while Agarkar is bad, it is beyond his pay grade to drop Kohli and Rohit from the test side. Jay shah would communicate that - but they are so pally with him - commercial interests and everything else - it’s not going to happen unless there is a strong media and public frenzy against them. The real culprit is not Agarkar - he is powerless in front of these two. 

Agreed not even Gambhir hasaukaat to drop them.. but unless kohli or rohit come back inform like in odis or dropped India will keep struggling in test cricket no matter who is the coach.

[putrevus]

3 hours ago, raki05 said:

Kohli shastri used to play useless hack in loi, ttf like jadhav, rayadu, vijay , Dk,shankar and thala. They never tried younger players or tried any new strategy in loi. They were utter disaster in lois inspite of having all our star players at their peak. The biggest disaster was loosing to that hackish pakistani in ct 2017.

They played young players like Kl Rahul and Pandya straight to  playing test cricket .

 

They kept playing KL Rahul in five different continents when this guy couldn’t not reach double digit scores in many of those matches.

Team improved when Pandya stopped playing and Thakur started playing.

 

How is it their fault if genius Bumrah get their opener out on no ball and cannot do anything else.

 

Shastri with no name bowlers  got Gabba win with all those injuries.

 

They just got saddled with useless .Dhoni who was good for nothing for long long time. Nobody was removing that guy Dhoni from team. 2019 semi was a win if it was any other batsman other than Dhoni .

 

i don’t see what blunders Shastri committed, you can squabble about some selections here and there that is common for any other TM but it was under him taking 20 wickets in every test began and it stopped the moment he left.

 

Bharat Arun has been best bowling coach.

 

You need luck to win tournaments, they were unlucky to come up short. 

Edited March 11 by putrevus

[raki05]

12 hours ago, putrevus said:

They played young players like Kl Rahul and Pandya straight to  playing test cricket .

 

They kept playing KL Rahul in five different continents when this guy couldn’t not reach double digit scores in many of those matches.

Team improved when Pandya stopped playing and Thakur started playing.

 

How is it their fault if genius Bumrah get their opener out on no ball and cannot do anything else.

 

Shastri with no name bowlers  got Gabba win with all those injuries.

 

They just got saddled with useless .Dhoni who was good for nothing for long long time. Nobody was removing that guy Dhoni from team. 2019 semi was a win if it was any other batsman other than Dhoni .

 

i don’t see what blunders Shastri committed, you can squabble about some selections here and there that is common for any other TM but it was under him taking 20 wickets in every test began and it stopped the moment he left.

 

Bharat Arun has been best bowling coach.

 

You need luck to win tournaments, they were unlucky to come up short. 

Test is different and loi is different. For test him and Shastri should get credit, in loi they did lot of blunders.  They were doing round table conference before 2019 wc also in all important sf they choose raddi team with 4 wk in team and one of them was perennial midget dk, before 2019 they were kept playing rayafu and suddenly in wc team they dropped him for vijay shankar. In 2017 team all infighting with kumble also choked on the flattest of wkt against useless pakistani, He won toss and choose to bowl against pakistani inspit of knowing they are bad at chasing. No bowl can happen at anytime for fast bowlers especially when Bumrah has not even completed one year in international cricket. Lol at blaming a new comer fast bowler who was playing first ever final and dint have an year experience in international circle, Where as 8/9 years experience gadha like chokli, motu, ashwin, jadeja played like a clown against hack Fukher. If Fukher got a chance on no ball,how about chokli who after getting dropped in slip got out like a clown on very next ball. After playing for almost a decade and half kohli played few good knocks in ko in 2023 and 2025 only recently ,but you expected bumrah to give sucker punch when he was not even an year old in international cricket.

Edited March 12 by raki05

[Number]

Kohli and Shastri just couldn't solve the middle order issue in 3 years. They kept chopping and changing and kept playing useless players who were not international quality like DK, Jadhav, Shankar, Rayudu. 

So booting out Kohli from loi captaincy was a great decision.

 

 

Edited March 12 by Number

[raki05]

https://www.hindustantimes.com/cricket/gautam-gambhir-in-discussion-with-bcci-to-sacrifice-free-time-for-indian-cricket-he-has-expressed-his-desire-to-101741762361566-amp.html

Edited March 12 by raki05

[singhvivek141]

13 hours ago, putrevus said:

They played young players like Kl Rahul and Pandya straight to  playing test cricket .

 

They kept playing KL Rahul in five different continents when this guy couldn’t not reach double digit scores in many of those matches.

Team improved when Pandya stopped playing and Thakur started playing.

 

How is it their fault if genius Bumrah get their opener out on no ball and cannot do anything else.

 

Shastri with no name bowlers  got Gabba win with all those injuries.

 

They just got saddled with useless .Dhoni who was good for nothing for long long time. Nobody was removing that guy Dhoni from team. 2019 semi was a win if it was any other batsman other than Dhoni .

 

i don’t see what blunders Shastri committed, you can squabble about some selections here and there that is common for any other TM but it was under him taking 20 wickets in every test began and it stopped the moment he left.

 

Bharat Arun has been best bowling coach.

 

You need luck to win tournaments, they were unlucky to come up short. 

They played Trundleshwar Kumar over Shami in 2017 & 2019..

That's the blunder of highest order. A medium pacer who cant even defend 100 runs in an ODI was crowned as some kind of "swing king" or "all phase bowler".

[putrevus]

53 minutes ago, singhvivek141 said:

They played Trundleshwar Kumar over Shami in 2017 & 2019..

That's the blunder of highest order. A medium pacer who cant even defend 100 runs in an ODI was crowned as some kind of "swing king" or "all phase bowler".

They did but even after they were long gone,  was Bhuvi still  playing in the team. He was playing in t20 World Cup in 2022 also.

 

Kl Rahul has no business of playing for any Indian team but he is still playing over guy like Pant.

Some players just develop this reputation for doing nothing.

 

Edited March 12 by putrevus

[Nikhil_cric]

Rohit and Dravid combo and Rohit/GG combo(flawed as they both are)are at least twice as good as the incompetent Kohli/Shastri duo who sent our white ball cricket backwards which ended with the humiliation in the 2021 World T20.

 

 

 

 

Edited March 12 by Nikhil_cric

[Suhaan]

46 minutes ago, Nikhil_cric said:

Rohit and Dravid combo and Rohit/GG combo(flawed as they both are)are at least twice as good as the incompetent Kohli/Shastri duo who sent our white ball cricket backwards which ended with the humiliation in the 2021 World T20.

 

 

 

 

Kohli thought 330on a dewish Wankhede pancake was enough against strong Kiwis batting that says enough of his understanding about the loi game

He thinks icc games and bilateral matches have same stakes

 

Mmmmm,"just another game"

[diga]

2 hours ago, Nikhil_cric said:

Rohit and Dravid combo and Rohit/GG combo(flawed as they both are)are at least twice as good as the incompetent Kohli/Shastri duo who sent our white ball cricket backwards which ended with the humiliation in the 2021 World T20.

 

Dont think we got any notable results in tests under Dravid or GG yet... while Dravid did not lose any home series, he failed to win the SA series which was almost under our grasp in 2022

Edited March 12 by diga

[Chakdephatte]

7 minutes ago, diga said:

Dont think we got any notable results in tests under Dravid or GG yet... while Dravid did not lose any home series, he failed to win the SA series which was almost under our grasp in 2022

Gambhir was unlucky he having to face Australia in BGT in the start. Dravid didn't get even one long series in SENA. We can't any conclusion from anything. 

[diga]

3 minutes ago, Chakdephatte said:

Gambhir was unlucky he having to face Australia in BGT in the start. Dravid didn't get even one long series in SENA. We can't any conclusion from anything. 

Dravid got  2 test series against SA and incomplete tour of Eng/WTC final ... 

 

To his credit, he did manage the captaincy transition between Kohli to Rohit I think

[Nikhil_cric]

13 minutes ago, diga said:

Dont think we got any notable results in tests under Dravid or GG yet... while Dravid did not lose any home series, he failed to win the SA series which was almost under our grasp in 2022

Yeah that has to be acknowledged.  But building a Test squad is becoming harder and harder these days. 

 

Back then we had Ishant, a Test specialist, and Shami, who didn't play a lot of T20 cricket , whether bilaterals or IPL until around 2020. 

 

Is it possible anymore to build a pace bowling unit which is dedicated to Test cricket primarily ?

 

 

 

[Nikhil_cric]

2 hours ago, Suhaan said:

Kohli thought 330on a dewish Wankhede pancake was enough against strong Kiwis batting that says enough of his understanding about the loi game

He thinks icc games and bilateral matches have same stakes

 

Mmmmm,"just another game"

That mid-match interview exposed his thought process so brutally .

 

He had, in his entire LOI captaincy , made his team to only play for par scores .

 

 

 

[putrevus]

When someone loses home test series 3-0 and follows it up with 3-1 loss in Australia , no need to know any further about their coaching ability.

 

Not even weakest Indian teams of 60s have achieved the feat .

 

 

Winning 4 or 5 Odis doesn’t  change that fact that Gambhir is a useless coach. It will be again reinforced in June in England.

 

 

 

 

Edited March 12 by putrevus

[raki05]

1 hour ago, putrevus said:

When someone loses home test series 3-0 and follows it up with 3-1 loss in Australia , no need to know any further about their coaching ability.

 

Not even weakest Indian teams of 60s have achieved the feat .

 

 

Winning 4 or 5 Odis doesn’t  change that fact that Gambhir is a useless coach. It will be again reinforced in June in England.

 

 

 

 

Do you believe rohit and kohli contributed in same proportion. Has any team won a test match playing with 9 players in every test in which one of them is captain and another one most celebrated batsmen.

[vvvslaxman]

He is in the middle of test transition. He has to handle it swiftly. You cannot make mistakes, you cannot use tests for leaning things. Don't care if we lose an odd bilateral ODIs. Even whitewash is no big deal. But in Tests you cannot lose at any cost.