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There is going to be an interesting tension between the tech/eng side of the Trump admin (Musk, Ramaswamy, Krishnan, etc) and the hardcore white-MAGA crowd. I will be eager to see which side comes up "trumps" in the end - my prediction is for the latter. I expect the Musk-Trump (b)romance to end at some stage, as Trump pivots towards maximizing his political (as opposed to economic) clout.

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5 hours ago, Vicks57 said:

 

So you want more restrictions for H1B and reduce the number just like  white supremacists MAGA.

 

@coffee_rules @raki05 @ravishingravi @Chaos

 

 

 

Follow this guy's twitter and H1B discussions are boiling over.

 

This is why you never vote republican ever.

 

I dont want anything.

 

Its an internal matter. Usa has every right to decide its immigration policies.

 

H1b system does need fixing is what everybody can agree on purely as a process.

 

@BacktoCricaddict

 

Academia is notoriously underpaid. Having said that i agree that the 150k limit is not a one size fits all threshold.  

 

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As an Indian citizen, I dont mind this churn happening. Its a win win from my perspective i.e. from India's view. 

 

As someone investing in start ups, I see the capital and talent moving back to tech city. This discourse is further stressing on the fault line. Fact is US remains No 1 country till it keeps attracting the best talent. If it stops attracting, positive secondary effect for India. If it continues to attract then remittance and capital ( skill ) keep flowing back. 

 

So, from my vantage point, there is no downside here. Plus also a reality check for many of the Pravasis. Changing the color of your passport is easy. Being accepted as an equal stakeholder with an equal voice is not guaranteed. Sriram is an American citizen and he is getting hammered. Because he is not passing some adhoc purity test.

 

India's future success will also depend on Indians abroad. If they don't find enough acceptance in their karma bhoomi, that sentiment and capital is eventually flowing back once fissure is really opened up.  So its a win win as I see. 

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10 hours ago, ravishingravi said:

 

As an Indian citizen, I dont mind this churn happening. It’s a win win from my perspective i.e. from India's view. 

 


It is an individual choice on where to live, work, marry, etc.  

 

If people want do something for their country, it may be a good idea to start at the individual level - not cheat on taxes, donate where applicable for e.g. for waste management systems, fight corruption, drive properly, not provide adulterated food and medicines, stop brazen and dishonest behaviour, etc. 

 

Need to create an environment where people can live in good faith, feel secure, survive, and thrive. Many of such things begin at the individual level through our own sense of responsibility and accountability. 

 

 

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15 hours ago, ravishingravi said:

As an Indian citizen, I dont mind this churn happening. Its a win win from my perspective i.e. from India's view. 

 

As someone investing in start ups, I see the capital and talent moving back to tech city. This discourse is further stressing on the fault line. Fact is US remains No 1 country till it keeps attracting the best talent. If it stops attracting, positive secondary effect for India. If it continues to attract then remittance and capital ( skill ) keep flowing back. 

 

So, from my vantage point, there is no downside here. Plus also a reality check for many of the Pravasis. Changing the color of your passport is easy. Being accepted as an equal stakeholder with an equal voice is not guaranteed. Sriram is an American citizen and he is getting hammered. Because he is not passing some adhoc purity test.

 

India's future success will also depend on Indians abroad. If they don't find enough acceptance in their karma bhoomi, that sentiment and capital is eventually flowing back once fissure is really opened up.  So its a win win as I see. 

I like seeing churn. Churn baby churn!.

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On 12/26/2024 at 12:22 AM, G_B_ said:

 

First real faultline in maga.

 

 

On 12/26/2024 at 2:36 AM, BacktoCricaddict said:

 

Maga *is* the faultline

 

On 12/26/2024 at 3:05 AM, ravishingravi said:

 

But have to say some vile hatred towards Indians. Don't feel defensive about. That's just how things will roll around the world. 

 

The irony is, is there truly any difference between MEGA and the Sangh Parivar/Bhakts?

While a global LEFT movement exists, there is absolutely no equivalent for a global RIGHT. 

 

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H1b is legal though.

85k a year is a drop in the ocean compared to illegals coming in the usa.

Even if you say its abused by indisns your talking about barely 10k a year.

20k of 85 is for masters students who have paperwork from an American university. They are qualified enough to be competant


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Meltdown is interesting. Land of the free home of brave melting down in front of us. 

 

Huntington's clash of civilizations playing out in front of us. Blood is thicker than water. Let it unravel. 

 

Indians need to have a connection with mothership. World can always flip. Brave new world is upon us. 

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28 minutes ago, ravishingravi said:

Meltdown is interesting. Land of the free home of brave melting down in front of us. 

 

Huntington's clash of civilizations playing out in front of us. Blood is thicker than water. Let it unravel. 

 

Indians need to have a connection with mothership. World can always flip. Brave new world is upon us. 

Reminds me of the 80s song: The Final Countdown. They should be a new song called: The Final Meltdown (starring Rohit & Kohli)

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3 hours ago, Vicks57 said:

 

Couldn't have put it any better.

 

Hopefully Indian Americans wake up.

 

@coffee_rules @ravishingravi @G_B_

Dems are hardly some great pioneers. More deportations were performed in Obama admin than 1st Trump admin IIRC. There are several other instances that can be reported from the Biden term.

 

To clarify, I ain't a Republican. Don't care much for either party since I despise many aspects of both.

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1 hour ago, Vijy said:

More deportations were performed in Obama admin than 1st Trump admin IIRC.

Shhh ... don't tell the MAGAs that Barack Hussein Obama was more MAGA than the MAGAs themselves. It will insult them because they strongly believe that theObamasorosbidenharris deepstateestablishment has secretly been bringing in illegals to commit crimes and election fraud.

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2 hours ago, Vicks57 said:

reducing illegal immigration

 

The approach that they take to solve this problem is completely flawed.

 

What law-makers really need to do is expand legal avenues for migrant farmworkers and other blue-collar workers (there is an H2A program for migrant farmworkers, but it is too limited). I did a project with a vegetable farmer (~ 100+ acres) many years ago, and her biggest worry always was whether she would get enough labor in a timely manner for planting and harvesting.

 

A vast, vast, vast majority of these folks are here to simply work hard, do things locals won't do and make a better life for their families (ya know, that "culture" / sanskaar argument that we Indians make? They have the same sanskaar.).

 

 

 

The solution is easy, but not politically expedient because keeping this issue simmering is a nice election weapon.

 

 

 

 

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11 minutes ago, BacktoCricaddict said:

 

The approach that they take to solve this problem is completely flawed.

 

What law-makers really need to do is expand legal avenues for migrant farmworkers and other blue-collar workers (there is an H2A program for migrant farmworkers, but it is too limited). A vast, vast, vast majority of these folks are here to simply work hard, do things locals won't do and make a better life for their families (ya know, that "culture" / sanskaar argument that we Indians make? They have the same sanskaar.).

 

I did a project with a vegetable farmer (~ 100+ acres) many years ago, and her biggest worry always was whether she would get enough labor in a timely manner for planting and harvesting.

 

The solution is easy, but not politically expedient because keeping this issue simmering is a nice election weapon.

 

 

 

 

that's most of either Dem/Rep policies - flawed

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Now I know this guy will not be president. He should have left the ball here. America is most propogandized population in the world with very low critical reasoning capabilities. And he just jumped on top on cluster f**k. He also like Trump, needs to reconcile with deep state. 

 

 

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5 minutes ago, ravishingravi said:

Now I know this guy will not be president. He should have left the ball here. America is most propogandized population in the world with very low critical reasoning capabilities. And he just jumped on top on cluster f**k. He also like Trump, needs to reconcile with deep state. 

 

 

Yup, Ramu is in deep s**t. Might even get booted by Trumpie as a concession of sorts to his MAGA base

Posted (edited)
58 minutes ago, ravishingravi said:

Now I know this guy will not be president. He should have left the ball here. America is most propogandized population in the world with very low critical reasoning capabilities. And he just jumped on top on cluster f**k. He also like Trump, needs to reconcile with deep state. 

 

 

Mouthing off thougtlessly is not a deterrent to the Presidency. But, he e just needs stick with his ridiculous conspiracy theories (e.g., Great Replacement), and add to this repertoire new ones like blaming working-class immigrants for pets disappearing from people's houses. Easy path to WH. 

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