BacktoCricaddict Posted February 28, 2025 Posted February 28, 2025 25 minutes ago, IndianRenegade said: I am pretty sure our understanding on macroeconomics isn't better than the Atlanta Fed. Unfortunately, in today's environment, they are seen as the establishment that must be destroyed, whereas twitter warriors, podcasters and car-makers are viewed as the ones with the knowledge and expertise to run governments.
IndianRenegade Posted February 28, 2025 Posted February 28, 2025 My little conspiracy hill is that the ppl at the top aren’t happy with the dynamics of the current employer-employee relationship. work from home ask for more benefits unions pay they are going to create a recession and show who the boss is. Brace for impact.
Teengunalagaan Posted February 28, 2025 Posted February 28, 2025 : pic.twitter.com/GHlmUmBRlF — The Fauxy (@the_fauxy) February 28, 2025 This is hilarious Muloghonto 1
LordPrabhzy Posted February 28, 2025 Posted February 28, 2025 7 minutes ago, Teengunalagaan said: This is hilarious HAHAHAH the comedian wannabe president shown his aukaat by Trump- he has been shown that without Americas alms Ukraine is nothing.Watch how this war ends in a few weeks
mishra Posted February 28, 2025 Posted February 28, 2025 (edited) 6 hours ago, Muloghonto said: Economic benefits my ass. Dont call US bribe and subjugation as EU taking benefits. The US plan has always been simple : Bribe Europe to keep yankee bases and be part of NATO to keep away communism. THAT WAS THE ORIGINAL DEAL, remember ? the whole genesis of EEC, remember ? the one that only expanded to become EU AS NATO expanded into eastern europe.... all this is Murrica's doing. Murrica is basically wanting to pull the plug on the deal it made with Europe : we have bases in ur country, we pay for the military responsibilities to a large degree, you get a free ride to keep dem commies out. Now, Murrica wants to bring its troops home, cut the costs and let Europe do more for its actual defence. Which is fair enough. But it was never a free ride: it was deal for US troops sitting in Europe to keep dem commies out : US does part of the heavy lifting for Europe by keeping troops there, paid outta US's pocket. So Europe obviously does less, because someone else has given u x% of troops and arms to sit in your country with u and watch for the enemy. together. Who the hell wouldnt do less in that scenario and go retard like North korea ? lol. My point is, we dont want to become like EU - the same deal with Europe is what destroyed most of Europe's arms industries - from british to german to swedish, all being deeply embedded with and partially owned by yankee arms corps. Only France retained some semblance of independence and that is mostly due to deGaulle & his next great successor Mitterrand were both frothing at the mouth napoleon-esque anglo-hater and hated the murricans and poured money into companies like dassault, snecma, DCNS to make sure the frogs had a seperate blue chip military industry of some capacity. In India, we are doomed to become colonized by US military companies and thus, US itself like Europe has been. Except for India's case, it will be British Raj 2.0 and not NATO because yankees are mostly white people who feel racial kindredness with Euros, along with some level of religious/shared cultural kindredness, they dont have that with us. Think You are completely mistaken. Its true that NATO was created by USA to fight USSR but it effectively ended after USSR was changed into Russia. So much so that twice Putin tried to join NATO alliance itself. Fact is once Russia came into existence EU started fighting Russia via NATO while propping up China. Now on economics: Europe was bankrupt post World war II. They have nothing to bring to table ( no energy, no manpower, no tech,no raw materials) which US or rest of world needs or can’t get from anywhere. 10 hr working for 6 days week Indian earns less than A EU citizen or Mineral rich Russian struggle to buy or travel in EU. EU has got everything for free from USA. But I think Finally Trump decided, enough. I also feel that him shunning EU in this manner is more down to EU somehow doing exactly opposite to what was discussed between him and eu in his first presidency. Edited February 28, 2025 by mishra
mishra Posted February 28, 2025 Posted February 28, 2025 1 minute ago, ravishingravi said: Loving it Scary! Think this is last throw of dice by EU. They have a lot to loose in terms of favours by US as soon as war ends. They want to keep Trump busy for nxt 2 years so that he can’t moove to nxt step if his plan. Wont be surprised if Zelensky fights till last Ukrainian
Muloghonto Posted February 28, 2025 Posted February 28, 2025 1 minute ago, mishra said: Scary! Think this is last throw of dice by EU. They have a lot to loose in terms of favours by US as soon as war ends. They want to keep Trump busy for nxt 2 years so that he can’t moove to nxt step if his plan. Wont be surprised if Zelensky fights till last Ukrainian How can u call me completely mistaken and then agree in next sentence ?? What is it you want by saying India should be like EU ? Give up sovereignty for cash and become American cultural colony ??
mishra Posted February 28, 2025 Posted February 28, 2025 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Muloghonto said: How can u call me completely mistaken and then agree in next sentence ?? What is it you want by saying India should be like EU ? Give up sovereignty for cash and become American cultural colony ?? EU became first minister of USA after world war II. What I am saying is they misused the position by being lazy , corrupt and mostly sucking US dry while US kept backing them and bailing them out and making them part of every plan or institution or tech and so on. Just UN has France and UK as Veto nation while none deserve it Indian can become richer and be better partner to US and don’t need to sell their sovereignty as long as they keep paying their bills. I will say take first minister position of US in world order. But don’t become a parasite to US like EU. Edited February 28, 2025 by mishra
Muloghonto Posted February 28, 2025 Posted February 28, 2025 1 minute ago, mishra said: EU became first minister of USA after world war II. What I am saying is they misused the position by being lazy , corrupt and mostly sucking US dry while US kept backing them and bailing them out and making them part of every plan or institution and so on. Just UN has France and UK as Veto nation while none deserve it WHAT misuse ? if you decide you need 10,000 men to watch ur border and i say 'hey i will send 5,000, free of charge, just dont become commie', what is the misuse for you going 'yay, i get to send 5000 men home and save 50% of my money' ??!? Its not misuse. Its the deal for US occupation. US didnt bail out anyone since the 1970s oil crisis. So what exactly do u want us to be EU for ?!?
IndianRenegade Posted February 28, 2025 Posted February 28, 2025 26 minutes ago, ravishingravi said: Loving it Zelensky failed here. He probably should have realized that this isn't about right or wrong, getting into an argument with Trump/vance in public does him no good. The point he made is sound, but thihs was not the place or time. He could have done this behind the scenes.
mishra Posted February 28, 2025 Posted February 28, 2025 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Muloghonto said: WHAT misuse ? if you decide you need 10,000 men to watch ur border and i say 'hey i will send 5,000, free of charge, just dont become commie', what is the misuse for you going 'yay, i get to send 5000 men home and save 50% of my money' ??!? Its not misuse. Its the deal for US occupation. US didnt bail out anyone since the 1970s oil crisis. So what exactly do u want us to be EU for ?!? Oh ! You think EU is that innocent. Let me pit it correctly. After being part if NATO EU said install missile sheild, give them free access to US Tech and defence , they haven’t got enough people to manage these jazzy American devices, so supply soldiers too. Example: UK had about 100k soldiers and was told that they need atleast 125K soldiers when Ukraine war started. There is no US army in UK but current strength is just 75k. PS: Bailout means when a country thinks of showing middle finger to European Countries it realises there is America as well Edited February 28, 2025 by mishra
Muloghonto Posted February 28, 2025 Posted February 28, 2025 1 minute ago, mishra said: Oh ! You think EU is that innocent. Let me pit it correctly. After being part if NATO EU said install missile sheild, give them free access to US Tech and defence , they haven’t got enough people to manage these jazzy American devices, so supply soldiers too. Example: UK had about 100k soldiers and was told that they need atleast 125K soldiers when Ukraine war started. There is no US army in UK but current strength is just 75k US got free tech from Europe during ww2. Britain had to cough up and hand over the most exclusive classive technology that only Britain had : radar. It also had to give up several naval manufacturing tech. So US tech transfer is owed tech debt from the US. My question is simple - if you need X people to protect ur country and i say, hey i am gonna send u y people, where y is less than x, for free, only condition: dont be commie, then why are you taking advantage of things by going 'yay i now need x-y people to fund on my own, as y are free of cost' ?!? Like would you instead go North Korea option and go 'muahaha, now i have x+y troops coz y came for free and i was planning on having x anyways' ?!?!
mishra Posted February 28, 2025 Posted February 28, 2025 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Muloghonto said: US got free tech from Europe during ww2. Britain had to cough up and hand over the most exclusive classive technology that only Britain had : radar. It also had to give up several naval manufacturing tech. So US tech transfer is owed tech debt from the US. My question is simple - if you need X people to protect ur country and i say, hey i am gonna send u y people, where y is less than x, for free, only condition: dont be commie, then why are you taking advantage of things by going 'yay i now need x-y people to fund on my own, as y are free of cost' ?!? Like would you instead go North Korea option and go 'muahaha, now i have x+y troops coz y came for free and i was planning on having x anyways' ?!?! Thought after world war II, whatever US got was due to EUs war debt, They took UN, They took world bank, they took dollar and they took Jews and so on. But in 2024, US had no debt to pay to EU or UK or Canada. So where the idea of payback comes? Edited February 28, 2025 by mishra
Muloghonto Posted February 28, 2025 Posted February 28, 2025 1 minute ago, mishra said: Thought after world war II, whatever US got was due to EUs war debt, They took UN, They took world bank, they took dollar and they took Jews and so on. But in 2024, US had no debt to pay to EU or UK or Canada. So where the idea of payback comes? took jews ? mate, they were BLESSED with jews - the ones who were the engine of US technological and financial dominance ARE jews. In 2024 there is no debt to be paid IMO,because tech US stole in ww2 is paid back by free grants and the bribe US gave Europe is no longer valid. So thats why i said i can see why US wants Europe to pay more, but it still doesnt answer my question as to why India would find appeal in being in EUs position because this is basically saying sell your country and sell your sovereignty and become american colony for more cash. US burgerland culture has totally decimated European culture for eg...
mishra Posted February 28, 2025 Posted February 28, 2025 16 minutes ago, Muloghonto said: took jews ? mate, they were BLESSED with jews - the ones who were the engine of US technological and financial dominance ARE jews. In 2024 there is no debt to be paid IMO,because tech US stole in ww2 is paid back by free grants and the bribe US gave Europe is no longer valid. So thats why i said i can see why US wants Europe to pay more, but it still doesnt answer my question as to why India would find appeal in being in EUs position because this is basically saying sell your country and sell your sovereignty and become american colony for more cash. US burgerland culture has totally decimated European culture for eg... Took jews is similar to took UN or took worldbavk or took dollar. Effectively they tool everything that was needed to rule world for the debt EU had with US. Think we are on different tune. I am factual and metaphorical. EU didn’t sell itself when actually US could have taken its pound of flesh. EU was not in position to fight USSR but When US broke USSR, then EU was not in position to even fight Russia. Now EU is not in position to challenge even Turkey or Iran. Thats how bad it has been. Did US tell them to become that week? Only countries that were limited by US and UK was Japan and Germany. Rest have no excuse to their failures including UK itself.
G_B_ Posted February 28, 2025 Posted February 28, 2025 Blunt truth, Europe needs to step up. Elephant in the room, you have teachers retiring at 55 in france n germany with 80% of their salaries. In the uk 134 billion is spent on disability benefits including mental illness. Unless europe attacks welfarism it cannot progress. Usa has a ruthlessness + natural rources which means they have the bandwidth.
ravishingravi Posted February 28, 2025 Author Posted February 28, 2025 51 minutes ago, IndianRenegade said: Zelensky failed here. He probably should have realized that this isn't about right or wrong, getting into an argument with Trump/vance in public does him no good. The point he made is sound, but thihs was not the place or time. He could have done this behind the scenes. Zelensky is a cocaine addict con artist. He has his mansion in an island or sud France done. Expecting tact from him is pointless.
ravishingravi Posted February 28, 2025 Author Posted February 28, 2025 6 minutes ago, G_B_ said: Blunt truth, Europe needs to step up. Elephant in the room, you have teachers retiring at 55 in france n germany with 80% of their salaries. In the uk 134 billion is spent on disability benefits including mental illness. Unless europe attacks welfarism it cannot progress. Usa has a ruthlessness + natural rources which means they have the bandwidth. Europe is done. That's blunt truth. It will continue to be on secular decline.
Muloghonto Posted February 28, 2025 Posted February 28, 2025 18 minutes ago, mishra said: Took jews is similar to took UN or took worldbavk or took dollar. Effectively they tool everything that was needed to rule world for the debt EU had with US. Think we are on different tune. I am factual and metaphorical. EU didn’t sell itself when actually US could have taken its pound of flesh. EU was not in position to fight USSR but When US broke USSR, then EU was not in position to even fight Russia. Now EU is not in position to challenge even Turkey or Iran. Thats how bad it has been. Did US tell them to become that week? Only countries that were limited by US and UK was Japan and Germany. Rest have no excuse to their failures including UK itself. You become weak when you are under imperial occupation of foreign forces. Duh. You end up with x-y troops, not x. So weak. I literally told you what is the excuse. If you show up and say you are gonna pay 50% of my costs, only a fool doesnt cut down costs by 50%.....
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