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India will not travel to Pakistan for ICC Champions Trophy 2025


Austin 3:!6

Champions Trophy 2025  

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  1. 1. Should India travel to Pakistan for Champions Trophy 2025?



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Posted
1 hour ago, Austin 3:!6 said:

 

Your party PTI is stupid. What was the need to organize this protest just before Champions trophy decision?

 

@Autonomous can shed some more light

Cults aren't going to be very good at selecting right priorities beyond 'free our beloved leader'....

Posted
1 hour ago, Austin 3:!6 said:

 

Your party PTI is stupid. What was the need to organize this protest just before Champions trophy decision?

 

@Autonomous can shed some more light

actually a good point. CT, even if hybrid even if for an unknown sport of cricket, would have shown to the Pakistan's stakeholders that normalcy is returning. Sl A team tour was stopped midway which reflects so poorly.  

Posted
4 hours ago, Austin 3:!6 said:

 

Your party PTI is stupid. What was the need to organize this protest just before Champions trophy decision?

 

@Autonomous can shed some more light

 

Not stupid. Politically smart. Their leverage increases when there is an important event to be held. PTI is looking at it from limited perspective of getting Imran out. 

Posted
4 hours ago, Austin 3:!6 said:

 

Your party PTI is stupid. What was the need to organize this protest just before Champions trophy decision?

 

@Autonomous can shed some more light

There are more important issues than this stupid CT. They did what they had to do . Pakistan doesn't deserve to host any international event when innocent civilians are being killed by the large armed gang called army in Pakistan . 

Posted
57 minutes ago, First class said:

There are more important issues than this stupid CT. They did what they had to do . Pakistan doesn't deserve to host any international event when innocent civilians are being killed by the large armed gang called army in Pakistan . 

Constantly attacking democracy with goons despite being banned will cause any government to retaliate. How many policemen etc got killed and attacked? Their lives don't matter?

Posted
5 hours ago, Austin 3:!6 said:

 

Your party PTI is stupid. What was the need to organize this protest just before Champions trophy decision?

 

@Autonomous can shed some more light

Their party doesn't care what happens to their country as long as their leader gets his way. They tried the same during IMF visit which could have been disaster for the country. They don't care 

Posted
7 hours ago, New guy said:

Constantly attacking democracy with goons despite being banned will cause any government to retaliate. How many policemen etc got killed and attacked? Their lives don't matter?

A typical shameless and beghairat  Patwari, calling Martial Law in Pakistan a " democracy" . Its army and interior minister claiming to provide security to the foreign teams while killing its own innocent civilians. Visiting Sri Lanka A team left Pakistan mid-way , for not feeling secure . How can you invite large number of guests at your home for a part when your house is burning, stupidity at its worst. 

Posted
1 hour ago, jigjig said:

Either hybrid or lose the tournament. 

Even hybrid should not be an option , its not in the best interest of Pakistan cricket. Situation in Pakistan is bad and will get worst in coming days . 

Posted
12 hours ago, sandeep said:

Cults aren't going to be very good at selecting right priorities beyond 'free our beloved leader'....

Yes, its a " cult" for which Pakistanis voted in big majority , even with all kind of hurdles created by the army and patwaris ,  in Feb 2024 elections . You elect a person to lead the country and an armed gang put him in the jail, would you not protest on it ??? 

Posted

just watched a few Pakistani YouTubers and their views on how CT will happen in Pakistan. It's okay to be patriotic but exaggeration / dilution is at another level. I don't know how they will spin the situation once it's clear India is not travelling to Pakistan. 

Posted
4 hours ago, First class said:

Yes, its a " cult" for which Pakistanis voted in big majority , even with all kind of hurdles created by the army and patwaris ,  in Feb 2024 elections . You elect a person to lead the country and an armed gang put him in the jail, would you not protest on it ??? 

dont get defensive FC.  I know that there's a lot of PTI supporters who are wellmeaning. But that party isn't really a flag bearer of democracy.  and neither is Imran.

 

Anyway, I guess when all the choices suck, arguably PTI isn't 'as bad as the others' for whatever its worth.  Its all such a mess.  Thats why I'm sympathetic.

Posted
4 hours ago, First class said:

Yes, its a " cult" for which Pakistanis voted in big majority , even with all kind of hurdles created by the army and patwaris ,  in Feb 2024 elections . You elect a person to lead the country and an armed gang put him in the jail, would you not protest on it ??? 

Can one win against an armed state. Protests have to yield a positive outcome . Anything yet?

Posted
5 minutes ago, sandeep said:

dont get defensive FC.  I know that there's a lot of PTI supporters who are wellmeaning. But that party isn't really a flag bearer of democracy.  and neither is Imran.

 

Anyway, I guess when all the choices suck, arguably PTI isn't 'as bad as the others' for whatever its worth.  Its all such a mess.  Thats why I'm sympathetic.


Whatever slim chance Pakistan thought they had, even though it’s been pretty explicit that India won’t travel there, that is significantly dented now after the violent protests in Islamabad, this makes their case too weak.

 

Considering the fact that the protests were from PTI supporters and how much Imran Khan’s policy on India is based on anti India rhetoric, this development poses a genuine risk to the Indian team. Hybrid model should be in the best interest of everyone.

 

So far no other team has raised much concern, but if there are more protest this could very much change, given how sensitive the western nations are to any kind of violent protests.

Posted
36 minutes ago, jigjig said:

Can one win against an armed state. Protests have to yield a positive outcome . Anything yet?

What else they could do, other than peaceful protest , the struggle will continue to liberate Pakistan. Patwaris in power and army have not learnt any lesson from factors behind creation of Bangladesh. 

Posted

What will happen:

 

CT will be hybrid with all of Ind's matches along with one semi and the final outside Pakistan.

 

2026 T20 WC and 2031 ODI WC are co-hosted with SL/Bang respectively (or other way around).

 

Pak will play all their group stage matches outside India EXCEPT the one against India (so they will fly in/out of India for that match).

 

One of the semis will be in India (if India qualifies this will be it). The other one will be in the other country. Similar to how in this WC India were to play their semi in Guyana if they qualify no matter the position. If Pak are in this semi, they will play in India. O/w they will play the other semi in the different country. Again this is if Pak qualifies for any of the semis. Final will be played in India, no matter who plays whether Ind, Pak or any other.

 

This is basically the 2011 WC formula. Pak played all their games outside India and then played SF in Mohali. Then Pak and Ind were in different groups so there was no group stage match. Don't think there won't be in 26 and 31 (ODI WC anyways is all vs all unless they change the format).

 

2025 Womens ODI WC and 2029 CT are fully in India and Pak will play all games in India. This is like WC 2023.

 

Ofc Pakistan can forfeit the matches in India or withdraw altogether but those matches which are scheduled in India will not be moved out. BCCI will not budge on this. BCCI is okay with Pakistan playing their non India group stage matches outside India in 2026 and 2031.

 

Pakistan will not get any ICC trophies for the foreseeable future to avoid these things.

 

Asia Cups won't be held in either India/Pak. Will revolve around SL, Bang, UAE. Might even have a surprise like Nepal or Oman (who have decent facilities).

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