Jump to content

Gukesh creates history and becomes The 18th undisputed World Chess Champion

Tillu

By Tillu
in Chit Chat

 Share

Recommended Posts

Muloghonto Grand Master

Muloghonto

Posted
Posted
On 12/28/2024 at 6:48 AM, Vijy said:

Yep, that's pretty much it. We may be seeing the faster-than-expected decline of Carlsen, which augurs well for Ind upcoming players

 

The two main Indian players to keep an eye on are Gukesh and Pragu, both because they are polar opposite playstyles, where Pragu is a lot more intuitively brilliant but also prone to more errors, while Gukesh is pretty much the best calculator in the game and even Magnus has said that this is what sticks out about Gukesh in classical format- he calculates lines that not even Magnus has considered,let alone calculated in midst of a game.


Arjun is also quite good, though he seems a bit like a stats-padder to me, carefully selecting tourneys where his potential point loss chances are lower and then mostly playing for draws against good players.

Vidith is also quite promising, seemingly a mix of pragu's genius and gukesh's methodical slightly less honed at either than them.
Another promising player is Nihal Sarin, who is quite a strong in all 3 formats and has a good intuition for the game.


Chidambaram & Sadhwani i dont know much about and Pentala is pretty much maxed out as a mid 20s-30s ranked player in his peak currently.

And i think these are pretty much the Indian young ones, aka current and next gen players in the top 50 that i know of.

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Vijy Grand Master

Vijy

Posted
Posted
58 minutes ago, Muloghonto said:

 

The two main Indian players to keep an eye on are Gukesh and Pragu, both because they are polar opposite playstyles, where Pragu is a lot more intuitively brilliant but also prone to more errors, while Gukesh is pretty much the best calculator in the game and even Magnus has said that this is what sticks out about Gukesh in classical format- he calculates lines that not even Magnus has considered,let alone calculated in midst of a game.


Arjun is also quite good, though he seems a bit like a stats-padder to me, carefully selecting tourneys where his potential point loss chances are lower and then mostly playing for draws against good players.

Vidith is also quite promising, seemingly a mix of pragu's genius and gukesh's methodical slightly less honed at either than them.
Another promising player is Nihal Sarin, who is quite a strong in all 3 formats and has a good intuition for the game.


Chidambaram & Sadhwani i dont know much about and Pentala is pretty much maxed out as a mid 20s-30s ranked player in his peak currently.

And i think these are pretty much the Indian young ones, aka current and next gen players in the top 50 that i know of.

 

I think that captures their strengths and weaknesses well. I hope that we will see an even younger generation emerging in 4-5 yr from now, Indians who right now would not be that well known because of just being in preteens or early teens.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
randomGuy Veteran

randomGuy

Posted
Posted
3 hours ago, Muloghonto said:

 

The two main Indian players to keep an eye on are Gukesh and Pragu, both because they are polar opposite playstyles, where Pragu is a lot more intuitively brilliant but also prone to more errors, while Gukesh is pretty much the best calculator in the game and even Magnus has said that this is what sticks out about Gukesh in classical format- he calculates lines that not even Magnus has considered,let alone calculated in midst of a game.


Arjun is also quite good, though he seems a bit like a stats-padder to me, carefully selecting tourneys where his potential point loss chances are lower and then mostly playing for draws against good players.

Vidith is also quite promising, seemingly a mix of pragu's genius and gukesh's methodical slightly less honed at either than them.
Another promising player is Nihal Sarin, who is quite a strong in all 3 formats and has a good intuition for the game.


Chidambaram & Sadhwani i dont know much about and Pentala is pretty much maxed out as a mid 20s-30s ranked player in his peak currently.

And i think these are pretty much the Indian young ones, aka current and next gen players in the top 50 that i know of.

 

I think in this year Arjun will surpass Magnus in classical ratings.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Gollum Grand Master

Gollum

Posted
Posted

Received Khel Ratna today, Wijk aan Zee from tomorrow. Very very difficult to play top level chess after the events of last few days. Non-stop activities, where is the time for chess?

 

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Gollum Grand Master

Gollum

Posted
Posted

Look at the content (educational, social, fun stuff) Chessbase India is uploading daily and contrast with how lethargic cricket journalism is in this country. This is what passion does. 

 

Very soon, chess will become a viable profession at least in India. May not generate as much money as cricket but the number of professional chess players will outnumber cricket counterparts. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites
kepler37b Proficient

kepler37b

Posted
Posted (edited)
On 1/17/2025 at 9:43 PM, Gollum said:

Look at the content (educational, social, fun stuff) Chessbase India is uploading daily and contrast with how lethargic cricket journalism is in this country. This is what passion does. 

 

Very soon, chess will become a viable profession at least in India. May not generate as much money as cricket but the number of professional chess players will outnumber cricket counterparts. 

Chess, for all it's exposure, is still the game of elite. It will be enjoyed by a micro minority that is blessed with high cognitive power. I do not think there is a viable economic model. 

Edited by kepler37b
Link to comment
Share on other sites
Muloghonto Grand Master

Muloghonto

Posted
Posted
4 hours ago, kepler37b said:

Chess, for all it's exposure, is still the game of elite. It will be enjoyed by a micro minority that is blessed with high cognitive power. I do not think there is a viable economic model. 

It is the same viable economic model of solo sports like tennis - where a dominant nation will have 1-5 players in the top 50 with 2-3 in top 10. 

 

Obviously no solo sports can compete with the economic viability of team sports like kirkut or football, where average skilled normies with passion can eke out a living in 2nd or 3rd division of the leagues. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites
kepler37b Proficient

kepler37b

Posted
Posted
1 hour ago, Muloghonto said:

It is the same viable economic model of solo sports like tennis - where a dominant nation will have 1-5 players in the top 50 with 2-3 in top 10. 

 

Obviously no solo sports can compete with the economic viability of team sports like kirkut or football, where average skilled normies with passion can eke out a living in 2nd or 3rd division of the leagues. 

Yes. 

 

Chess does not have that "consumer" quotient. It only has "purist" quotient.

 

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Mariyam Grand Master

Mariyam

Posted
Posted
11 hours ago, kepler37b said:

Yes. 

 

Chess does not have that "consumer" quotient. It only has "purist" quotient.

 

 

Bullet/Blitz is the T20 equivalent of chess. Has drawn in a lot of people to the game.

 

Also, the lockdown was the best thing that happened to chess. Lots of people got into the game. 

Watch a chessbase India ( or Samay Raina)  live stream during chess events. Live viewership is anywhere between 10k to 1.5 lakhs.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Gollum Grand Master

Gollum

Posted
Posted (edited)
18 hours ago, kepler37b said:

Chess, for all it's exposure, is still the game of elite. It will be enjoyed by a micro minority that is blessed with high cognitive power. I do not think there is a viable economic model. 

With the size of our population, big enough. Already draws bigger audience than all non-cricket sports, check the viewership numbers for pro league of hockey or some ISL game. Cricket is the clear number one, and that will never change. Fight is for second spot which I think right now, kabaddi holds. Still, peak viewership (across various streams/channels) during closing rounds of Olympiad or some of the Gukesh-Ding games was very high, comparable to ICT's test numbers or some random bilateral.

 

Gukesh's prize money for winning the crown was  ₹ 11 crores (just the prize money, not talking about gifts bestowed upon him after winning), Anand used to pull similar (sometimes even higher like 2010 Sofia) numbers in his world title matches, think he still has highest prize money of all time, even above Kasparov, big reason being his appearances in 9 world title matches. Money inflow into chess will only increase in the future (with league system, Anbani/Adani following Mahindra in sponsoring tourneys), which should encourage more kids to take it up seriously. 

 

But individual sports make enough dough for top 20-30 players, quantum is higher in tennis but still a world number 80 in tennis as well as chess will face similar financial problems unless they diversify (second job outside or within the system like coaching). Team sports like cricket, football, basketball have money more spread out among the players.....even field hockey.

Edited by Gollum
Link to comment
Share on other sites
 Share
Go to topic listing
×
×
  • Create New...