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On 1/21/2025 at 11:08 PM, Vickydev said:

Pragg has started extremely well in Wijk Aan Zee, looking at his 3rd win today. Arjun OTOH has had a shocker so far... was outclassed by Pragg in the last game, today just blundered a piece

More impressed by Gukesh. After non-stop schedule post WCC win, arriving so late in the tournament (just 2 hours before start of R1, since he was collecting Khel Ratna the previous day). Went on to beat Giri in opening round, with practically no rest, and certain jet lag. 

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Somehow Arjun hasn't clicked in Wijk aan Zee, big blot considering the prestige/history/legacy of this tournament. Read that in masters division his record reads 0 wins, 7 losses, 9 draws....shocking record thus far. Really hope an Indian wins this, Pragg, Gukesh, Hari looking good but still long way to go. 

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2 hours ago, Gollum said:

More impressed by Gukesh. After non-stop schedule post WCC win, arriving so late in the tournament (just 2 hours before start of R1, since he was collecting Khel Ratna the previous day). Went on to beat Giri in opening round, with practically no rest, and certain jet lag. 

IMHO 5 years form now the primary world champion/challengers will be

Gukesh, Pragg, Nodirbek, Firouzja ,Keymer, Arjun, Chidambaram  (in this order).

 

Magnus may still be in the top 5 ranks but uninterested in Classical or the world championship.

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Just now, Mariyam said:

IMHO 5 years form now the primary world champion/challengers will be

Gukesh, Pragg, Nodirbek, Firouzja ,Keymer, Arjun, Chidambaram  (in this order).

 

Magnus may still be in the top 5 ranks but uninterested in Classical or the world championship.

Mariyam didi how r uuuu… misssss ur inputs here:aha:

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3 hours ago, Mariyam said:

IMHO 5 years form now the primary world champion/challengers will be

Gukesh, Pragg, Nodirbek, Firouzja ,Keymer, Arjun, Chidambaram  (in this order).

 

Magnus may still be in the top 5 ranks but uninterested in Classical or the world championship.

Can't rule out Hikaru or Caruana for the next 5-10 years imo. 

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15 minutes ago, Muloghonto said:

Can't rule out Hikaru or Caruana for the next 5-10 years imo. 

In classical, I consider Nepo, MVL, maybe even Giri, So as bigger contenders than Naka. Sure some of them have been in bad form for last couple of years, but even Naka was out of the picture for a good 4-5 years in between.

 

Mamedyarov, Grischuk and Aronian are a bit too old now I guess. Svidler even more so. 

 

Duda, Rapport, Wei Yi, Fedoseev are wildcards to keep an eye on.

 

 

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Come to think of it. Despite his reputation, Naka has never won world rapid or blitz titles....forget classical. Ivanchuk, Anand won world rapid when they were 48/49 years old....both beating Carlsen on the way.

 

More than actual chess abilities, Naka has built his reputation due to quick mouse speed and his ability to premove better than others in online speed chess.

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1 hour ago, Gollum said:

In classical, I consider Nepo, MVL, maybe even Giri, So as bigger contenders than Naka. Sure some of them have been in bad form for last couple of years, but even Naka was out of the picture for a good 4-5 years in between.

 

Mamedyarov, Grischuk and Aronian are a bit too old now I guess. Svidler even more so. 

 

Duda, Rapport, Wei Yi, Fedoseev are wildcards to keep an eye on.

 

 

There are a couple of Turkish kids to watch out for. They look really interesting, one of them beat Arjun recently. 

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1 hour ago, Gollum said:

Think this thread has served its purpose. Should we lock it and open a dedicated 2025 chess season thread? Because there will be other tournaments without Gukesh's participation. 

 

What do others say?

Agree. A dedicated thread to track the events for the year

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11 hours ago, Gollum said:

 

 

But individual sports make enough dough for top 20-30 players, quantum is higher in tennis but still a world number 80 in tennis as well as chess will face similar financial problems unless they diversify (second job outside or within the system like coaching). Team sports like cricket, football, basketball have money more spread out among the players.....even field hockey.

Precisely. They need a second career.  A second track.  

 

I would be very interested to see how the international masters are prodding on in life. Here is the list - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Indian_chess_players#References:~:text=title application-,International Masters,-[edit]

 

From what I found, many of them are in coaching at an hourly rate. 

 

 

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8 hours ago, Gollum said:

Anand withdraws from the freestyle chess tournament (co-organized by Carlsen), quite late. 

 

Surely after effects of brat MC's outburst against FIDE/Anand in world rapid @rangeelaraja


 

Great move. MC is the worst possible role model for this great intellectual sport and Anand is the very best in the history of the game ! Indian chess should do nothing to patronize anything that MC does. 

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9 hours ago, Vickydev said:

There are a couple of Turkish kids to watch out for. They look really interesting, one of them beat Arjun recently. 

Yeah, Turkey is doing very well in juniors, USA too. Also that Argentine prodigy, Faustino Oro, even looks like mini Caruana !!!!!

 

See a drought in Russian chess though, something I never imagined could happen even 5 years ago. 

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