Gukesh creates history and becomes The 18th undisputed World Chess Champion

[rangeelaraja]

4 minutes ago, randomGuy said:

Eval now +2

 

Its 1.6 on chess.com  - Gukesh with a pawn advantage and Ding with a much worse pawn structure.

 

Lets hope for the best.

[Vickydev]

Some really shaky moves from Ding around the time limit mark.. Gukesh should see this though

[rangeelaraja]

Draw is still the highest probability. 

 

It is easy to get influenced by the stockfish eval bar. 

[randomGuy]

19 minutes ago, rangeelaraja said:

Draw is still the highest probability. 

 

It is easy to get influenced by the stockfish eval bar. 

Eval is generous for black here... white has stronger chance than +1 or +2 imo

Edited December 3, 2024 by randomGuy

[rangeelaraja]

15 minutes ago, randomGuy said:

Eval is generous for black here... white has stronger chance than +1 or +2 imo

Eval bar is almost even now. 
 

Eval is never generous for black. It is generous for white, assuming white will pay 3000 rating level moves to seize victory. 
 

Gukesh has ruined the massive advantage he had. 

[rangeelaraja]

Terrible  pathetic time management, he may lose this.

 

Can you imagine !!

[Vickydev]

The Knight was stuck for eternity in f8 and it finally came alive and how.. 

 

It's the white King which has been useless this half

[Vickydev]

Fantastic play from Ding has to be said

[Vickydev]

Ding of old.. Eh.. Tricky one for Gukesh. Nerves till in play..a lot actually. Still gets extremely twitchy when he can sense an advantage

[Tillu]

Gukesh's time management is pathetic in this match. He squandered every advantage he has and settled for a draw. So disappointed.

[rangeelaraja]

1 hour ago, rangeelaraja said:

Ding has defended with the best engine moves. 

 

99 % draw.

 

Said it , a long time back.

 

I just fear he will play more recklessly with Black pieces and lose. 

 

Unfortunately, we Indians like to hype our players ( which is fine ) , but the manner in which we underplay the opponents is astonishing.

 

Between 2017 and 2018, Ding has had an unbeaten streak of 100 games ( a then World record in the entire history of classical chess ).

 

Gukesh will struggle to go unbeaten even in 20 classical games - such is his style. 

 

Even though the scores are even - throughout the current World Chess championship- Ding has looked much more solid.

 

Gukesh is a super talent, when on a song, he can do what he did at the Olympiad. But he is not super reliable and cannot play solid in a match against an extremely well prepared Ding.

 

[rangeelaraja]

3 minutes ago, Tillu said:

Gukesh's time management is pathetic in this match. He squandered every advantage he has and settled for a draw. So disappointed.

 

 

Absolutely pathetic time management.  I wish he is getting good counsel. 

 

He will not escape the lose play with black against Ding all the time.

[Tillu]

Looking at the way Ding was finding the best engine moves under so much time pressure, don't think Gukesh stands a chance against Ding in the tie breakers who is the 2nd best after Magnus in rapid time controls.

 

After this match I doubt if Gukesh has it in himself to beat Ding even in the next 7 classical matches.

[Vickydev]

4 minutes ago, Tillu said:

Gukesh's time management is pathetic in this match. He squandered every advantage he has and settled for a draw. So disappointed.

Yeah, it seems neither like to hold an advantage this match at this point. Last game Ding, this one Gukesh. 

 

Both chew through their time like a pack of chips when there is any semblance of time advantage. Nerves are in overtime in this one

[Tillu]

21 minutes ago, rangeelaraja said:

 

Said it , a long time back.

 

I just fear he will play more recklessly with Black pieces and lose. 

 

Unfortunately, we Indians like to hype our players ( which is fine ) , but the manner in which we underplay the opponents is astonishing.

 

Between 2017 and 2018, Ding has had an unbeaten streak of 100 games ( a then World record in the entire history of classical chess ).

 

Gukesh will struggle to go unbeaten even in 20 classical games - such is his style. 

 

Even though the scores are even - throughout the current World Chess championship- Ding has looked much more solid.

 

Gukesh is a super talent, when on a song, he can do what he did at the Olympiad. But he is not super reliable and cannot play solid in a match against an extremely well prepared Ding.

 

 

Everybody, I mean even the top chess players bought into the long con of Ding suffering from psychological issues. It doesn't look like it on the board and he successfully fooled everyone into underestimating him.

Edited December 3, 2024 by Tillu

[rangeelaraja]

2 minutes ago, Tillu said:

 

Everybody, I mean even the top chess players bought into the long con of Ding suffering from psychological issues. It doesn't like it on the board and he successfully fooled everyone into underestimating him.

 

Deception and fakery is part of the Han Chinese DNA. 
 

“ Appear weak when you are strong, and appear strong when you are weak “  - The Art of War by Sun Tzu.

 

Even an innocent looking Ding is like that. 

 

[Vickydev]

Watching the press conference...Gukesh has aged about 10 years in these last 6 months or so. Greys in his hair now at 18

 

Stunning how he went from a tiny 12-13 year old in around Covid years to this

Edited December 3, 2024 by Vickydev

[rangeelaraja]

1 minute ago, Vickydev said:

Watching the press conference...Gukesh has aged about 10 years in these last 6 months or so. Greys in his hair now at 18

 

Stunning how he went from a tiny 12-13 year old in around Covid years to this

 

 

Consider this -- Kasparov and Anand became grandmasters at the age of around 18.

 

Gukesh qualified to be the challenger for the world championship at 17 and playing the World Championship at 18.

 

His accomplishment is already beyond extraordinary. 

 

Against someone like Nepo, I would back Gukesh. But Ding is a very very solid player. Can take the match to the rapid tiebreaks and will win easily.

 

Gukesh's style is never solid play. He is too attacking, too lose and can be extremely vulnerable. Thats why, Carlsen never had a very high opinion of his play, although grudgingly acknowledges his talent because he made it to the World Championship.

 

[Tillu]

10 minutes ago, rangeelaraja said:

 

Deception and fakery is part of the Han Chinese DNA. 
 

“ Appear weak when you are strong, and appear strong when you are weak “  - The Art of War by Sun Tzu.

 

Even an innocent looking Ding is like that. 

 

 

Every Chinese bot has been posting this very same quote on reddit chess few months into the WCC everyday. Should never believe a word of what the Chinese people say.

[Tillu]

5 minutes ago, rangeelaraja said:

 

 

Consider this -- Kasparov and Anand became grandmasters at the age of around 18.

 

Gukesh qualified to be the challenger for the world championship at 17 and playing the World Championship at 18.

 

His accomplishment is already beyond extraordinary. 

 

Against someone like Nepo, I would back Gukesh. But Ding is a very very solid player. Can take the match to the rapid tiebreaks and will win easily.

 

Gukesh's style is never solid play. He is too attacking, too lose and can be extremely vulnerable. Thats why, Carlsen never had a very high opinion of his play, although grudgingly acknowledges his talent because he made it to the World Championship.

 

 

Gukesh is more of a calculator. He is still very young and needs to develop the skills of intuition, tactics and positional play which are extremely important for shorter time formats.