Texan Posted November 25 Share Posted November 25 7 minutes ago, Mariyam said: Gukesh took the initiative. Advanced his King's side pawns quite early in the game. Ensured that there would be no draw. He went for the kill. Great intent. When you have such clarity in thought and planning, you take into account the fact that risks don't always reward. Risky play is un Gukesh like, but planning in detail and prepping openings is. All said and done, this is a risk he planned for. I think Gukesh has shown that he is out here to win it as fast as he can. I am extremely optimistic. Can't wait for game 2. Losing with white pieces is never a good idea. He was clearly out prepared by Ding. Gukesh's strategy should have been to draw the first few games, understand Ding's plans and then try to win. That's what most GMs do in World Championships. First few games are usually draws. I am also hopeful that he has learned from this loss and can come out stronger. But the advantage has been surrendered. Now he will be playing catch up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texan Posted November 25 Share Posted November 25 Other thing is who Gukesh is using for his training. From what is known, Gukesh'ssecond is Grzegorz Gajewski, who is ranked outside the top 300 in Fide rankings, while Ding's second is Richard Rapport, a top 30 player who is known for playing unconventional lines. Gukesh should have enlisted better players for preparing. I hope he is not caught out unprepared. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangeelaraja Posted November 25 Share Posted November 25 (edited) I had mentioned this a long time back, never be so assured in sports. Our problem as a people is - even when little good happens, we hype it up so much and end up jinxing ourselves. Indian media and unfortunately alot of fans, and even the absolutely unprofessional coverage by chessbase India , made it appear as if Gukesh just had to turn up to Singapore and the World Chess Championship cup was a mere formality. Never EVER underestimate your opponent when stakes are so high. Also lets use a little common sense, Gukesh has ZERO preparation support outside of India. If he were to win the World Championship, he would break Kasparov and Carlsen's record by several years. None of them want it. And nobody is a well wisher of his outside of India. The sooner the gullible Indian fans understand this the better. Also, for all the overconfidence and bravado - here is a fact- Gukesh has NEVER beaten Ding in a Classical chess game. Hopefully Gukesh puts up a good fight and takes this to the end, in my opinion - Gukesh is now the underdog and Ding will be very difficult to stop after this amazing start. Edited November 25 by rangeelaraja Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mariyam Posted November 26 Share Posted November 26 7 hours ago, Texan said: Other thing is who Gukesh is using for his training. From what is known, Gukesh'ssecond is Grzegorz Gajewski, who is ranked outside the top 300 in Fide rankings, while Ding's second is Richard Rapport, a top 30 player who is known for playing unconventional lines. Gukesh should have enlisted better players for preparing. I hope he is not caught out unprepared. Gukesh won the candidates with Gajewski. Gukesh won a medal at the Olympiad with Gajewski (in the background). One loss can’t suddenly mean that there is a serious systemic issue. Gukesh has help from other seconds which he isn’t revealing. For obvious reasons. Have faith. coffee_rules 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mariyam Posted November 26 Share Posted November 26 @rangeelaraja Strange post. Indian chess fans or Chessbase India’s bravado, overconfidence and general online glee has nothing to do with the actual performances by Gukesh. It’s not as if Gukesh bought into his own online hype. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangeelaraja Posted November 26 Share Posted November 26 (edited) 58 minutes ago, Mariyam said: @rangeelaraja Strange post. Indian chess fans or Chessbase India’s bravado, overconfidence and general online glee has nothing to do with the actual performances by Gukesh. It’s not as if Gukesh bought into his own online hype. @Mariyam Sorry, I am just very upset, that we have collectively put so much pressure on Gukesh with the hype. This has taken all the pressure off Ding. Chessbase India has uploaded countless videos almost trying to get out of the chess community that Gukesh is the firm favorite. What is the point of this ? Is it supposed to help Gukesh or put more pressure on him ? Ding is a typical "Yeda ban ke peda khana" player. Lulls his opponent /adversary into complacency by showing extreme vulnerabilities. It is obvious, he has been hiding his prep all this while. Edited November 26 by rangeelaraja Mariyam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bharathh Posted November 26 Share Posted November 26 Whether Gukesh wins/loses is his accomplishment. While I understand that we want a fellow Indian to do well, I don't think we should be too disheartened even if he loses. We have a stable of amazing players waiting to become world champs. It's just a matter of time for an Indian to win this and perhaps dominate for a while given the number of folks we have. The good thing is that Chess now has the support and following it needs to sustain itself for the near future. That hopefully will not change for a while. Tillu and Vickydev 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tillu Posted November 26 Author Share Posted November 26 (edited) Ding played the long con into making the whole world believe he was suffering from psychological problems. Very cunning. He looks absolutely confident. We see this characteristic of underselling your strength even in their popular culture like movies where the main leads were always portrayed as good for nothing idiots where they make a 360 degree u turn in the climax. Seen countless martial arts movies like Kungfu Hustle with the same theme. Edited November 26 by Tillu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tillu Posted November 26 Author Share Posted November 26 Today's match resulted in a draw. Hope Gukesh wins the match tomorrow with white pieces. Vickydev 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vickydev Posted November 27 Share Posted November 27 Very interesting game this. Gukesh is really testing Ding's preparation here Tillu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Vickydev Posted November 27 Share Posted November 27 Rg8.. The fact he played it so quick shows Ding knows his stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randomGuy Posted November 27 Share Posted November 27 Ding blunders... gukesh e4 khel de bhai, trap the bishop...easy hai... Vickydev 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vickydev Posted November 27 Share Posted November 27 Big advantage for Gukesh is that he has loads of time unlike the first game, hope he can cash in on this now Tillu and randomGuy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randomGuy Posted November 27 Share Posted November 27 E4 played!! Going well so far. Vickydev 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tillu Posted November 27 Author Share Posted November 27 Man that e4 move from Gukesh got a huge response from the crowd like it was a last ball sixer. Vickydev 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tillu Posted November 27 Author Share Posted November 27 The amount of cheering they are doing, it will look so stupid if we lose the match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vickydev Posted November 27 Share Posted November 27 Ding in time trouble.. Needs to make 10 moves in 2 mins in this tricky position Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randomGuy Posted November 27 Share Posted November 27 Gukesh wins!!! Huge crowd roar in chessbase studio in Mumbai... @Mariyammight be there?? Mariyam, Tillu and Vickydev 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tillu Posted November 27 Author Share Posted November 27 Gukesh won the game on time. 1.5 each now. Take proper rest and come back strong again day after tomorrow randomGuy and Vickydev 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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