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Ukraine fires the first US supplied ATACMS missiles into Russia - Start of WWIII


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27 minutes ago, ravishingravi said:

 

Exactly. Probably worst after Bush.

Obama put his personal religious (Pro Shia sect) agenda over US interest. His plocies neutralised Sunni Saudi influence, and expanded IRGC influence in almost every ME States (Yemen, Syria,Iraq,Lebanon,Lybia)

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Since cost of Hypersonic missile is highly valued (in tens of millions) If I am to guess, the target they would have neutralised has to be highly valued as well. So what is of high value in Ukraine? Only thing that comes to mind is  Dutch just finished delivery of total eighteen  F-16 to Ukraine.

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^ Looks like strike was on biggest Military Industrial Complex of Ukraine. Those F-16 are still in Romania. Most likely theu wont enter Ukranian airspace till war ends

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US lawmakers should look into introducing a bill that curtails executive powers of a lame duck presidential period. This is preposterous 

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15 hours ago, coffee_rules said:

US lawmakers should look into introducing a bill that curtails executive powers of a lame duck presidential period.

They should've done this for all presidents, but more importantly, a rogue SCOTUS. Not sure why some have termed it "activist" judges, they're *ing corrupt as hell.

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On 11/21/2024 at 12:42 AM, coffee_rules said:

It was deep state -Dems or republicans don’t matter. Ok, when did the escalation or war started under? The administration and deep state go together in war efforts

 

P.S: Thanks for responding in such a decent manner, without ad hominems or personal jibes. A model way to argue for  some of the ICFers to follow . 

I don't understand why one should buy the russian narrative of escalation at face value, tomorrow China can claim US & French (NATO) made weapons on its border & Indian ties with US as escalatory actions & attack India. if you buy the Russian narrative you will need to side with China against India. 

 

Just like how India as a sovereign nation can decide where to buy weapons who it should conduct commerce with, Ukraine has similar rights. Why should Putin who has several times said Ukraine isn't even a country & believes it doesn't have a right to exist get to decide what is escalatory? Unless Ukraine attacked Russia there was nothing escalatory. 

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On 11/25/2024 at 2:00 PM, IndianRenegade said:

I don't understand why one should buy the russian narrative of escalation at face value, tomorrow China can claim US & French (NATO) made weapons on its border & Indian ties with US as escalatory actions & attack India. if you buy the Russian narrative you will need to side with China against India. 

 

Just like how India as a sovereign nation can decide where to buy weapons who it should conduct commerce with, Ukraine has similar rights. Why should Putin who has several times said Ukraine isn't even a country & believes it doesn't have a right to exist get to decide what is escalatory? Unless Ukraine attacked Russia there was nothing escalatory. 

 

Ukraine has a history with Russia , just like India-Pakistan. The eastern part of Ukraine has Russians living there after Ukraine was formed. Russia has a big brother presence there for long term peace in the region. Once, this USA NATO thing started the Russians in Ukraine formed rebel forces with support from Russia of course. USA didn't want Russian missiles in Cuba and almost went to WW_III during the Cuban missile crisis. Similarly, Russia doesn't want Ukraine to have USA military presence. USA has a history of meddling in all countries for its MIC to flourish. The Ukraine war has funded a lot of Blactwater contractors with US taxpayers' money while Ukraine is getting destroyed. Can you fault Russia for behaving exactly like USA?

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In awe of this much planning and execution from Ukranians.   This was futuristic stuff.

 

World will learn from this.   Drone warfare was never this devastating before.

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18 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

In awe of this much planning and execution from Ukranians.   This was futuristic stuff.

 

World will learn from this.   Drone warfare was never this devastating before.

 

Indeed. Ukraine and Russia are far and away on drone warfare. 

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