SMAT 2024/25

[vayuu1]

3 hours ago, singhvivek141 said:

Chetan Sharma is talking highly of Bawa, mentioned that he has the ability to bowl at 135-140kph. But since he is returning from injury perhaps he will take some time to get his pace back.

 

Appreciating his length as well which is slightly around 5-7m mark.

 

Ashok M is dead silent 

Imagine bawa and reddy in same team 

[Suhaan]

19 minutes ago, vayuu1 said:

Imagine bawa and reddy in same team 

Nullified by Kohli,Rohit,Ashwin,kela in the same team

[singhvivek141]

32 minutes ago, vayuu1 said:

Imagine bawa and reddy in same team 

We have good backups for spin allrounder (Jadeja) as well.

Apart from Axar, Nishant Sindhu and Manav Suthar are there...Sindhu is a better batsman, Suthar is better bowler.

 

But all that talent is of no use unless our selectors learn to grow a spine and take hard decisions.

[rkt.india]

5 hours ago, Lord said:

Too many teams in domestic circuit. Chandigarh and Punjab should be one team,also Mumbai and Maharashtra. Mumbai is not even a UT.

 

It just allows mediocre players to pad up stats 

Teams are fine according to population. Even UP need at leat two teams with such high population. Gujarat and Maharashtra have three teams each. Chandigarh catchment area is not limited to just chandigarh city. Northeast teams are weak in comparison.

[singhvivek141]

Vipraj Nigam is one for the future.

20 year old leggie who is handy with the bat.

Smoked 27 of 8 deliveries against Andhra and took 2 for 20 in 4 overs.

 

[nitinbwj]

50 minutes ago, singhvivek141 said:

Vipraj Nigam is one for the future.

20 year old leggie who is handy with the bat.

Smoked 27 of 8 deliveries against Andhra and took 2 for 20 in 4 overs.

 

Our domestics are shyte. Period.

[Suhaan]

24 minutes ago, nitinbwj said:

Our domestics are shyte. Period.

You don't watch it ,doesn't mean it's nothing

Had we played our domestic batters against NZ at home instead of failed oldies we would have hammered them rather 3-0

We have won in Aus last time with youngsters,kaha aaye se th ye,aasman se tapke th?

 

[tapandrun]

Domestic speedometer has been good for last 2 years.

 

Have been posting about it you need speedometer for every single domestic match, these dibbly-dolly bowler keeps getting cheap wkts and keeps getting selected season after season and when it comes to intnl level they prove to be no good.

 

 

 

[tapandrun]

Yes the quality is not too high thats the reason IPL teams sift through so much, call player for trials.

Even after trails these top domestic performers do not get into IPL team. The reason there are more faster bowlers coming from their net bowler trials than actual domestic system.

Batter who tries nonconventional shots are criticized , bowler who tries to bowl fast are criticized in domestic as soon as they fail these commentators latches on to them.

The system is not supportive of those kind of players. This is the reason Ind never found a good fast bowler till IPL, still there are not many mystery spinners, not many leg -spinner who actually turns the ball. Hardly any batter plays sweep, reverse sweep or lap 

 

 

Edited December 10, 2024 by tapandrun

[rkt.india]

What pace did Shami bowl? Saw a clip of him bowling at 132kph.

[singhvivek141]

15 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

What pace did Shami bowl? Saw a clip of him bowling at 132kph.

Quickest was 138

[singhvivek141]

4 hours ago, tapandrun said:

Domestic speedometer has been good for last 2 years.

 

Have been posting about it you need speedometer for every single domestic match, these dibbly-dolly bowler keeps getting cheap wkts and keeps getting selected season after season and when it comes to intnl level they prove to be no good.

 

 

 

Our domestic batters too are crap. They were late even on 120k deliveries...most of them can't play bounce at 127k and simply don't have any power in their game.

 

Sandeep Sharma was giving plethora of width to Shami while bowling at 120k, which he was easily able to hack and score runs.

[tapandrun]

On 12/9/2024 at 10:19 PM, singhvivek141 said:

Our domestic batters too are crap. They were late even on 120k deliveries...most of them can't play bounce at 127k and simply don't have any power in their game.

 

Sandeep Sharma was giving plethora of width to Shami while bowling at 120k, which he was easily able to hack and score runs.

Ind domestic cricket system overwhelmingly supports sub 135 kmph bowler, they have kind of a long career. Every team has 2/3 such bowler in playing 11 who shares the new ball and if there is any1 faster than bowler has be to be 1 change and once they go for runs in 1/2 match they are dropped.

They never get the chance to develop  and always look raw and erratic. And once injured are not backed by domestic teams

 

BCCI should take an initiative where they ask boards to not to play sub 135 kmph bowlers in their teams. This way you will get faster bowler and allrounders who can bowl atleast 135 kmph. 

If your faster bowler are sub 135 kmph where would you find a 135+kmph allrounder.

 

The 3 most productive shots in domestic are cover drive, edge while playing cover drive and leg flicks. batters does not have to develop too many shots to be successful in domestics thats the reason why Ind batters who make late debuts still lacks intnl quality, always look like a level below, they are not even good for stop-gaps.

And because of these 3 shots being most productive its better to play sub 135 kmph bowler as when batter plays a cover drive will give chance to stop the boundary (slower they bowl slower it goes), edges goes to wkt/slips and leg flicks does not go to the boundary that quickly.

 

  

 

 

 

Edited December 11, 2024 by tapandrun

[singhvivek141]

2 hours ago, tapandrun said:

Ind domestic cricket system overwhelmingly supports sub 135 kmph bowler, they have kind of a long career. Every team has 2/3 such bowler in playing 11 who shares the new ball and if there is any1 faster than that then they have be to be 1 change and once they go for runs in 1/2 match they are dropped.

They never get the chance to develop  and always look raw and erratic. And once injured are not backed by domestic teams

 

BCCI should take an initiative where they ask boards to not to play sub 135 kmph bowlers in their teams. This way you will get faster bowler and allrounders who can bowl atleast 135 kmph. 

If your faster bowler are sub 135 kmph where would you find a 135+kmph allrounder.

 

The 3 most productive shots in domestic are cover drive, edge while playing cover drive and leg flicks. batters does not have to develop too many shots to be successful in domestics thats the reason why Ind batters who make late debuts still lacks intnl quality, always look like a level below, they are not even good for stop-gaps.

And because of these 3 shots being most productive its better to play sub 135 kmph bowler as when batter plays a cover drive will give chance to stop the boundary (slower they bowl slower it goes), edges goes to wkt/slips and leg flicks does not go to the boundary that quickly.

In order to do that, BCCI need to first re-organize the teams.
It doesn't make any sense that Gujrat has 3 teams, while UP, Rajasthan has only one. Whereas each North Eastern state has a team of it's own. 
Pitches also has to be altered accordingly, make it diverse. If Chennai assists spin, make Coimbatore as a pacer friendly...even local batters will get to play on both pitches and learn how to tackle the different challenges thrown to them.

In the broadcasted game between Bengal vs Chandigarh....bowlers like Jagjit, Nikhil, Sandeep, Kanishka all were trundling...they didnt even reach 130 k. Only Bawa, Sayan and Shami crossed 130k and out of them only Shami crossed 135k, and Shami is 35 year old.

[Lone Wolf]

Domestic standards have indeed fallen off the cliff.

Pitches are primary factor for that.

 

Batsmen coming are through the line FTB's 

U19 team is in a bad shape for last few years now.  Grassroot talent is ignored.  Zero eye for talent.

 

BCCI needs to mandate strict guidelines and selection parameters to improve standards.

Edited December 10, 2024 by Lone Wolf

[Suhaan]

1 hour ago, Lone Wolf said:

U19 team is in a bad shape for last few years now.  Grassroot talent is ignored.  Zero eye for talent.

U19 team just won a WC two years ago and reached final this year

[Lone Wolf]

2 hours ago, Suhaan said:

U19 team just won a WC two years ago and reached final this year

Last batch struggled in Asia Cup and WC. Where are they now ?? Arshin Kulkarni was told to be next big star but he turned out to be worse than Suryavanshi.

None of the Pacers/spinners were a patch on BD SA and Australian ones.

 

As soon as they went to Highveld they were exposed big time.

 

The team that lost 2020 U19 WC final vs BD had talent oozing from them & just had a bad game.  So many made it.

 

Current lot takes the cake though.  Worst batch in years 

[Suhaan]

54 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

Last batch struggled in Asia Cup and WC. Where are they now ?? Arshin Kulkarni was told to be next big star but he turned out to be worse than Suryavanshi.

None of the Pacers/spinners were a patch on BD SA and Australian ones.

 

As soon as they went to Highveld they were exposed big time.

 

The team that lost 2020 U19 WC final vs BD had talent oozing from them & just had a bad game.  So many made it.

 

Current lot takes the cake though.  Worst batch in years 

This was not the best squad/xi from the one which faced Aus back home

They are trying to find their combinations right

[singhvivek141]

1 hour ago, Lone Wolf said:

Last batch struggled in Asia Cup and WC. Where are they now ?? Arshin Kulkarni was told to be next big star but he turned out to be worse than Suryavanshi.

None of the Pacers/spinners were a patch on BD SA and Australian ones.

 

As soon as they went to Highveld they were exposed big time.

 

The team that lost 2020 U19 WC final vs BD had talent oozing from them & just had a bad game.  So many made it.

 

Current lot takes the cake though.  Worst batch in years 

2016, 2018, 2020 all 3 batches had good talents.

2022 was decentish. 

I can barely remember names from 2024 batch.

[Rightarmfast]

Does anybody know if entry to SMAT at Chinnaswamy is free ? Or if, allowed at all? I see that theres a match tomorrow and on friday.