Ultimate_Game Posted November 27, 2024 Share Posted November 27, 2024 1 hour ago, Number said: L Modi exposing CSK He's exposing himself and showing everyone how incompetent he was. He was the IPL commissioner at the time and was running the league. He was the person who was supposed to manage these things and be on top of running the league. It shows his integrity, or lack thereof. And it's not just CSK which got away with things. MI changed the rules often. I recall MI played 5 overseas players at one point despite some of the other franchises protesting and MI giving laughable excuse of injuries to their Indian players. It's much easier to replace an Indian player - you can pick up literally anyone from domestic cricket. And the whole collusion with auctions, retentions, getting Pandya etc. reeks of under the table deals. But the point is that the league administrators, including Modi let it happen. Of course every franchise would like to get away with as much as possible and this is where IPL governing body comes in. But if they're only good for complaining after the fact, they may as well not be there. Modi himself colluded and was party to most of these things and is simply bitter as he's left out in the cold and rest have continued on. Number, bowl_out, vvvslaxman and 2 others 1 4 Link to comment
singhvivek141 Posted November 27, 2024 Share Posted November 27, 2024 1 hour ago, Lord said: Naveen is not ordinary pacer. His action is like Bumrah. Got Head 2-3 times already Action is not the concern here, he leaked runs at a high economy as well in 2024. Usually in IPL for foreigners, your past form and skillsets are very important. To some extent the relations as well with the mgmt. Anyway, just because he isnt selected doesn't mean he is bad. Sometimes it's just a game of demand and supply...where few are left behind. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted November 27, 2024 Share Posted November 27, 2024 30 minutes ago, Ultimate_Game said: He's exposing himself and showing everyone how incompetent he was. He was the IPL commissioner at the time and was running the league. He was the person who was supposed to manage these things and be on top of running the league. It shows his integrity, or lack thereof. And it's not just CSK which got away with things. MI changed the rules often. I recall MI played 5 overseas players at one point despite some of the other franchises protesting and MI giving laughable excuse of injuries to their Indian players. It's much easier to replace an Indian player - you can pick up literally anyone from domestic cricket. And the whole collusion with auctions, retentions, getting Pandya etc. reeks of under the table deals. But the point is that the league administrators, including Modi let it happen. Of course every franchise would like to get away with as much as possible and this is where IPL governing body comes in. But if they're only good for complaining after the fact, they may as well not be there. Modi himself colluded and was party to most of these things and is simply bitter as he's left out in the cold and rest have continued on. These all things were beyond his powers. He was just a manager, not the owner. Link to comment
Ultimate_Game Posted November 27, 2024 Share Posted November 27, 2024 50 minutes ago, rkt.india said: These all things were beyond his powers. He was just a manager, not the owner. Then why cry now? He was benefiting from it so was quiet. Now he's acting like a jealous and bitter ex coz he's no longer part of the gravy train. He was an enabler and a colluder all that time. He changed rules on the fly for CSK and MI (the 5 player exemption) etc. So what is he complaining about? By the way none of these things he mentioned is news to us. We know that under the table deals happen all the time. Do you think the recent Pandya move to MI from GT was all above the board? Or the fact that Harshit Rana was deliberately not given an India debut before the IPL auction so that he could be retained for a much cheaper price? Or the way CSK and IPL changed the rules to retain Dhoni (and some other oldies) for cheap? It used to happen earlier, and is happening now. And Modi and other IPL admins are as much party to it as they benefit directly from it. No, Lalit Modi wasn't just a manager. He facilitated, and was directly involved in most of the things that happened at the time. raki05 1 Link to comment
singhvivek141 Posted November 28, 2024 Share Posted November 28, 2024 Had they put this much effort during the auction, they might had a realistic chance. raki05 1 Link to comment
rkt.india Posted November 28, 2024 Share Posted November 28, 2024 14 minutes ago, singhvivek141 said: Had they put this much effort during the auction, they might had a realistic chance. Batting is very weak but they also had the lowest purse. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted November 28, 2024 Share Posted November 28, 2024 14 hours ago, Ultimate_Game said: Then why cry now? He was benefiting from it so was quiet. Now he's acting like a jealous and bitter ex coz he's no longer part of the gravy train. He was an enabler and a colluder all that time. He changed rules on the fly for CSK and MI (the 5 player exemption) etc. So what is he complaining about? By the way none of these things he mentioned is news to us. We know that under the table deals happen all the time. Do you think the recent Pandya move to MI from GT was all above the board? Or the fact that Harshit Rana was deliberately not given an India debut before the IPL auction so that he could be retained for a much cheaper price? Or the way CSK and IPL changed the rules to retain Dhoni (and some other oldies) for cheap? It used to happen earlier, and is happening now. And Modi and other IPL admins are as much party to it as they benefit directly from it. No, Lalit Modi wasn't just a manager. He facilitated, and was directly involved in most of the things that happened at the time. He was not benefitting from it. His focus was to make IPL stand. He created IPL and did everything he could do to make it successful. Look at the benefit he had, he has needlessly been hounded and exiled from the country. Link to comment
singhvivek141 Posted November 28, 2024 Share Posted November 28, 2024 13 minutes ago, rkt.india said: Batting is very weak but they also had the lowest purse. Only thing they have good is their top order Samson, Jaiswal, Jurel, Parag, Rana, Hetmyer...and that's where it ends. IMO, they wasted money on Vaibhav...should have easily bought Brandon King and Raj Limbani or Kartik Tyagi instead. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted November 28, 2024 Share Posted November 28, 2024 1 hour ago, singhvivek141 said: Only thing they have good is their top order Samson, Jaiswal, Jurel, Parag, Rana, Hetmyer...and that's where it ends. IMO, they wasted money on Vaibhav...should have easily bought Brandon King and Raj Limbani or Kartik Tyagi instead. Jurel is unproven and Parag and Rana are inconsistent. Link to comment
Lord Posted November 28, 2024 Share Posted November 28, 2024 RR is good Jaiswal Samson Rana Parag Hetmyer Jurel Hasaranga Theekshana Archer Madhwal/Yudhvir Sandeep Link to comment
singhvivek141 Posted November 28, 2024 Share Posted November 28, 2024 16 minutes ago, rkt.india said: Jurel is unproven and Parag and Rana are inconsistent. 9 minutes ago, Lord said: RR is good Jaiswal Samson Rana Parag Hetmyer Jurel Hasaranga Theekshana Archer Madhwal/Yudhvir Sandeep RR's first XI is manageable on paper. But one injury and this team's hollow bench strength will expose. No disrespect to Vaibhav or Kunal but their game is unproven and they aren't best of the domestic performers either. Atleast with likes of Jurel, Nitish, Parag etc there is some potential & baseline expectation. I don't think Vaibhav or Kunal or any other bench are there yet. They don't even have 6 overseas players. raki05 1 Link to comment
Ultimate_Game Posted November 28, 2024 Share Posted November 28, 2024 6 hours ago, rkt.india said: He was not benefitting from it. His focus was to make IPL stand. He created IPL and did everything he could do to make it successful. Look at the benefit he had, he has needlessly been hounded and exiled from the country. He made plenty from the league. He got booted out coz he got too big for his boots. He thought he was bigger than the BCCI babus, IPL franchise owners and some of the politicians involved. He was cut down to size and kicked out. He wasn't a martyr or a saint or someone on a crusade. He was every bit as corrupt as everyone else involved. There were reports of rigged auctions for teams and how certain businesses/owners' bids were rejected and some got preferential treatment for acquiring franchises. And this all happened under Lalit Modi. Modi would still be running the league if he didn't get such a big head and thought he was untouchable. He was involved in getting kickbacks and plenty of bribery allegations against him, and in fact Modi's own brother-in law had a big stake in Rajasthan Royals. There were also allegations of tax fraud and tax evasion against Modi. As I said earlier he's crying now coz shoe's on the other foot but Modi was as corrupt, if not more, and a king of under-handed deals... https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/kochi-franchise-says-they-were-offered-50-million-to-quit-the-ipl-456034 https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/the-key-players-in-the-ipl-controversy-457235 https://frontline.thehindu.com/cover-story/rise-and-fall-of-lalit-modi/article7345672.ece raki05 1 Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted November 28, 2024 Share Posted November 28, 2024 Don't care what happens in FIX league as long as they don't use that to corrupt national selection. One most recent obvious selection wsa SKY playing Test and ODI world cup when there were more deserving candidates. Ultimate_Game 1 Link to comment
First class Posted November 29, 2024 Share Posted November 29, 2024 No Bangladeshi cricketer ??? Link to comment
raki05 Posted November 29, 2024 Share Posted November 29, 2024 Very nice to see no kangladeshi …. Hope they enjoy company of pooksi. Glad to see 6 Afgan players. rollingstoned, singhvivek141 and Suhaan 1 1 1 Link to comment
singhvivek141 Posted November 29, 2024 Share Posted November 29, 2024 1 hour ago, First class said: No Bangladeshi cricketer ??? You can select them in PSL. Aur koi to aaega nahi as it's clashing with IPL raki05 1 Link to comment
Ultimate_Game Posted November 29, 2024 Share Posted November 29, 2024 1 hour ago, First class said: No Bangladeshi cricketer ??? Who deserves to be there? No batsman would make it. No spinner would get in as there're enough domestic spin bowlers. And as for pacers, none of them are good enough for T20. The only player who can marginally get in is Mustifur but that's about it. But the upcoming domestic pace bowlers aren't that bad either and no franchise would waste an overseas spot on him. raki05 1 Link to comment
bowl_out Posted November 29, 2024 Share Posted November 29, 2024 11 hours ago, Ultimate_Game said: Who deserves to be there? No batsman would make it. No spinner would get in as there're enough domestic spin bowlers. And as for pacers, none of them are good enough for T20. The only player who can marginally get in is Mustifur but that's about it. But the upcoming domestic pace bowlers aren't that bad either and no franchise would waste an overseas spot on him. Correct. Even last time, I remember only Mustafizur and Litton being there. But their performance was pretty average. No reason to pick them Ultimate_Game 1 Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted November 29, 2024 Share Posted November 29, 2024 Pdogg: David Padikkal lol Link to comment
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