Indian team for 2nd D/N test at Adelaide

[goose]

8 hours ago, ravishingravi said:

 

Why so. India has already won last two series in Australia. Last one with a C team. Is it because of D / N ?

we have won before granted, but somehow it has always felt because we've played out of our skins, this time it feels we are just the better side but 2-0 would confirm it. india beating aus in any given test is still considered an upset but 2-0 changes that

[Lone Wolf]

2 hours ago, Number said:

I remember discussing with you and others here during 22 T20 WC that Adelaide Oval is the fastest pitch in Australia nowadays.

Darren Lehman said the same that since 2016-17 this is the fastest pitch in Australia. 

So I think going with 4 pacers in this test is a good option.

Adelaide can be pretty fast under lights for sure.

It's more a true batting surface as well.   Boundaries are smaller and outfield quicker too.

Let's see if they leave grass this time around 

[R!TTER]

42 minutes ago, goose said:

india beating aus in any given test is still considered an upset but 2-0 changes that

You mean outside India? Anyhwere in India or Asia we're still massive favorites!

[goose]

18 minutes ago, R!TTER said:

You mean outside India? Anyhwere in India or Asia we're still massive favorites!

 

yeh i meant outside asia.

[vishalvirsingh]

2 hours ago, deepdynamo said:

 

I prefer batting security over spin quality in a day night test.

Remember 90% wickets in day night test at Adelaide has been taken by fast bowlers. Minimal impact by spinners.

can't agree more with you dear. Pink ball swings and i remember that even a match in india ( PINK BALL match), the ball swung and a lot of wickets were taken by spinners even when the Pitch was not too green- i guess it has more to do with the evening swing and windy conditions that favour the bowlers. 

long story short - 4 pacers are must...probably 3 Pacers and Nitish will do the trick. Harshit should be retained and Boom is required , siraj can be rested and akashdeep played. if the pace attack is same , we may have many pacers asking for rest from the third test.

 

it makes logical sense to play boom in this test and rest boom in the third test , he/siraj can play in alternate tests.

[lemsip]

23 minutes ago, vishalvirsingh said:

siraj can be rested and akashdeep played

Siraj bowled very well after a long time. Would make no sense to pull him out of the team going into another test where the conditions are likely to be seam friendly. He only bowled 27 overs in the test with a long break between innings. There is no reason to rest him especially with a 10 day gap between tests.

[sandeep]

6 hours ago, express bowling said:

 

Pink ball bounces a lot too and does not move much during day. Need a bounce bowler. Harshit will be retained.

 

Bumrah and Siraj are there to move the ball in the evening. 

 

 

If team believes in Harshit's batting ability, I'd be tempted to put Akashdeep in for this game, and go with 4 man attack + Sundar as 5th.  But I doubt we see that, unless its a proper greentop.

 

Aussies have a real problem on their hands.  If they go for yet another bowler friendly surface, they know that India not only can match up and bowl well on it, Indian batting is better equipped to comfortably out-do their mess of a top order.  If they go for an 'easier' batting surface, they risk losing part of their bowling attack for the remainder of the series. 

 

No easy answer.  @goose forget winning T2, if India are able to win the first couple of sessions in T2, we're gonna start seeing the fabled Aussies crumble under pressure like a cheap wet paper bowl unable to handle some fresh hot Saambhar

[express bowling]

8 minutes ago, sandeep said:

 

If team believes in Harshit's batting ability, I'd be tempted to put Akashdeep in for this game, and go with 4 man attack + Sundar as 5th.  But I doubt we see that, unless its a proper greentop.

 

 

Harshit and Akashdeep together can give us a 80% lower order batsman.

 

They can think about replacing some batter with Akashdeep if they like. 

[express bowling]

10 minutes ago, sandeep said:

 

If team believes in Harshit's batting ability, I'd be tempted to put Akashdeep in for this game, and go with 4 man attack + Sundar as 5th.  But I doubt we see that, unless its a proper greentop.

 

Aussies have a real problem on their hands.  If they go for yet another bowler friendly surface, they know that India not only can match up and bowl well on it, Indian batting is better equipped to comfortably out-do their mess of a top order.  If they go for an 'easier' batting surface, they risk losing part of their bowling attack for the remainder of the series. 

 

No easy answer.  @goose forget winning T2, if India are able to win the first couple of sessions in T2, we're gonna start seeing the fabled Aussies crumble under pressure like a cheap wet paper bowl unable to handle some fresh hot Saambhar

 

Our problem would be batting against the pink ball. We are not used to it while the Aussies play a pink ball test almost every series and have won 7 out of 8.

[sandeep]

2 minutes ago, express bowling said:

 

Our problem would be batting against the pink ball. We are not used to it while the Aussies play a pink ball test almost every series and have won 7 out of 8.

yeah thats why I can see why team would be tempted to continue the 3 man bowling attack - but I think its a gamble that can backfire in T2.  We got away with it in T1 because we got that 1st innings collapse.  Not a given every test.

 

And remember, pink ball test has long periods where it turns into batting friendly conditions.  Sundar/Jadeja  + Nitish as 5th bowler is much better than that combo as 4th and 5th. 

 

Aussies are vulnerable. T2 is the time to go for the kill and not let their batting recover.  If we punt on a 3 person attack with 3rd being a 1 test rookie, it gives a chance for Aus to somehow get away to a 400 total. 

 

But anyway, I think given the long rest period ahead of T2, Indian team is likely to go with same balance as T1.  with Brohit and Gill coming in for DDP and Jurel.

[putrevus]

I hope Indian team does not rest on its laurels and be very wary of Aussie fight back.We cannot underestimate Aussies, they always regroup and fightback.

[lemsip]

I don't think Gill will have recovered enough to be able to bat in the next test. Apparently his finger is still bandaged and he wouldn't have even started batting yet. His return seems optimistic given test starts next Friday. 

So Rohit for Padikkal and Jurel could be replaced by Akashdeep for a more attacking bowling lineup for the day nighter. Depends on how nervous they feel about the batting in conditions where we had the 36 all out on the last tour. 

[R!TTER]

So you want 6 bowling options?

[lemsip]

15 minutes ago, R!TTER said:

So you want 6 bowling options?

Not particularly but am comfortable with both options if Gill doesn't play - stick with Jurel or replace with Akashdeep. Batting could be slightly weakened but could get  another set of shoulders to carry some of bumrahs workload in case long bowling spells end up being required. Personally I would stick with Jurel and retain the same team apart from Padikkal but can understand if they chose the other option.

[R!TTER]

Our batting is still flaky, we barely used 5 bowlers here 6 are not going to make any difference!

[Adamant]

No reason to play 4 frontline pacers in a pink ball match, 3 pacers plus Reddy will do.

[singhvivek141]

Except Rohit for Paddikkal/Jurel..I doubt we may see many changes.

Jurel though failed with bat but took some sharp catches. Plus he looks more assured of the two. 

Bowling wise, as it's a long break. Rest won't be a worry for the main quicks.

Post the second test one of Siraj or Bumrah can rest for Akashdeep.

[vvvslaxman]

Gill is not playing for sure when you  listen to these guys

 

 

[adi B]

For the Pink ball Test You need bowlers who can get the ball to seam off the wkt. Bowlers like Siraj,Akashdeep would work well .I'd drop Harshit and get Akashdeep in ,Akashdeep is dangerous against the left handers and We need him to get Head's wkt .

Rohit in for Paddikal is a given ! But he should not open the batting ,he'll be a disaster against the pink ball.

Rest same team 

[adi B]

Australia's batting is getting old and fragile ,I can see a Akashdeep or Siraj running through then in the Pink ball test.

Bumrah off course is another level!

Smith ,Labu,Mcsweeney, Khwaja are there to be taken ,not seen such a fragile aus batting unit in years !

Big names on paper but on current form ,Rotten ,just like ours !