Bumrah's captaincy

[Kothili]

On 11/24/2024 at 11:56 AM, Bigg Brother said:

The guy showed "bat" to umpire when he reverse swept to Lyon to count as his runs.. So much for his pride thing. Few yrs ago, even I used to fall for this. Even Bumrah's wife is there. She is also celeb. He doesn't do drama and theatrics like him. Good knock but unnecessary theatrics should be avoided.

This guy has a sky high ego and his soul animal is a chimpanzee.

[Vijy]

On 11/27/2024 at 2:40 PM, Ultimate_Game said:

 

It has to be a mental thing. Happened way too many times and everywhere. SKY was an idiotic choice. My personal preference was Rinku who knows how to build an innings. He averages 49 in List A and 55 in FC. Plus he has already shown he has the temperament in T20s. So go for a specialist batter who has succeeded at domestic level rather than a slogger who has a poor domestic record in those formats.

 

I hope they learn their lessons for CT after seeing the success with the T20 team. Get Jaiswal in to open along with Rohit and Gill at 3 replacing Rohit. And go with multi-dimensional cricketers like Pant, Parag, Rinku, Nitish, Pandya, Axar. We should only look at playing 2-3 specialist bowlers - Bumrah, Varun C and probably Harshit or Akash Deep. That's about it. That means we bat till 8 and have plenty of bowling options along with batters who are aggressive.

Rinku could be considered for ODIs, but does not seem suited for Tests. If we look at well-known no. 5 or no. 6 batters (e.g., waugh), their 100 scoring frequency seems better than rinku, who IMO did not play a lot of big knocks in the middle order in ranjis

[Ultimate_Game]

5 hours ago, Vijy said:

Rinku could be considered for ODIs, but does not seem suited for Tests. If we look at well-known no. 5 or no. 6 batters (e.g., waugh), their 100 scoring frequency seems better than rinku, who IMO did not play a lot of big knocks in the middle order in ranjis

 

I would back him based on his temperament and FC record where he averages 54.7 after nearly 60 FC matches. If you can give likes of Patidar, KS Bharat and SKY a go in Tests when they average around 40 (36 in case of Bharat), surely Rinku is miles better.

[Vijy]

10 minutes ago, Ultimate_Game said:

 

I would back him based on his temperament and FC record where he averages 54.7 after nearly 60 FC matches. If you can give likes of Patidar, KS Bharat and SKY a go in Tests when they average around 40 (36 in case of Bharat), surely Rinku is miles better.

it's not the average, but the 100s that matter. 50s don't win matches except for on vicious tracks.

[Ultimate_Game]

Just now, Vijy said:

it's not the average, but the 100s that matter. 50s don't win matches except for on vicious tracks.

 

Looking at our team if a middle order bat gets consistent 50s and averages close to 50, I would take him with both hands! We've specialist batters averaging 3 and 4 in 1st innings across 7 Tests. Someone scoreing a 50 would be like Bradman in this team.

[Vijy]

9 minutes ago, Ultimate_Game said:

 

Looking at our team if a middle order bat gets consistent 50s and averages close to 50, I would take him with both hands! We've specialist batters averaging 3 and 4 in 1st innings across 7 Tests. Someone scoreing a 50 would be like Bradman in this team.

We should not search for someone who scores better than 10s just because that's the current lot. need to find 100-makers in the MO

[Ultimate_Game]

Just now, Vijy said:

We should not search for someone who scores better than 10s just because that's the current lot. need to find 100-makers in the MO

 

I want to give chances to a domestic performer who has put in the hard yards and performed at every opportunity. Surely a guy who averages 54.7 across 60 FC matches deserves a go when folks nowhere close to him were given chances.

 

You've to give performers a go. That's how you build meritocracy. Unfortunately someone like Rinku doesn't have supporters from known power center slike Deli, Mumbai, B'lore/Karnataka, Chennai/TN, Hyderabad/Andhra etc. Neither does he have vocal supporters like Tharoor or Jay Shah. The guy hails from hinterland or backwater and if such deserving players aren't given a chance, how will they ever get their shot?

 

It's a different thing whether he succeeds or not but he deserves his shot. Limited batters like Patidar and a nobody like SKY was given chances in Tests without doing anything close to what Rinku has done. Why didn't we scrutinize their selections and ask to see whether they've scored big 100s? You can't have different rules for players without backing.

[Vijy]

1 minute ago, Ultimate_Game said:

 

I want to give chances to a domestic performer who has put in the hard yards and performed at every opportunity. Surely a guy who averages 54.7 across 60 FC matches deserves a go when folks nowhere close to him were given chances.

 

You've to give performers a go. That's how you build meritocracy. Unfortunately someone like Rinku doesn't have supporters from known power center slike Deli, Mumbai, B'lore/Karnataka, Chennai/TN, Hyderabad/Andhra etc. Neither does he have vocal supporters like Tharoor or Jay Shah. The guy hails from hinterland or backwater and if such deserving players aren't given a chance, how will they ever get their shot?

 

It's a different thing whether he succeeds or not but he deserves his shot. Limited batters like Patidar and a nobody like SKY was given chances in Tests without doing anything close to what Rinku has done. Why didn't we scrutinize their selections and ask to see whether they've scored big 100s? You can't have different rules for players without backing.

I can think of several who should be given chances ahead of Rinku: Pradosh Ranjan Paul, Musheer Khan, Sarfaraz (2 big failures and then discarded), Iyer for home conditions, and so on. If they all fail, it is not a bad idea to give him a shot.

 

BTW, UP is not a no-name state by any means. Lots of people debuted from there: Raina, Boobi, Jurel, Kuldeep, etc. Likes of Saurabh made it to team 15.

[Ultimate_Game]

4 minutes ago, Vijy said:

I can think of several who should be given chances ahead of Rinku: Pradosh Ranjan Paul, Musheer Khan, Sarfaraz (2 big failures and then discarded), Iyer for home conditions, and so on. If they all fail, it is not a bad idea to give him a shot.

 

BTW, UP is not a no-name state by any means. Lots of people debuted from there: Raina, Boobi, Jurel, Kuldeep, etc. Likes of Saurabh made it to team 15.

 

Sarfaraz - yes as he's already in the squad. Same with Jurel. Musheer is recovering from a serious accident so he's out of picture right now. Iyer had his shot and it's Rinku's turn now.