vvvslaxman Posted November 26 Share Posted November 26 3 hours ago, Nikhil_cric said: I'm taking about current value. What Thakur did in 2021 is irrelevant in 2025 IPL. He went unsold not because of his lack of marketability. Averaged 60 with the ball last season. And economy rate of nearly 11 the year before that. These are shocking numbers who bowls mostly only in the middle overs. Ishant sharma 75 lakhs means Thakur who is current Ranji player definitely is worth something. Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted November 26 Share Posted November 26 3 hours ago, Lord said: While that's the biggest reason, guys like Deepak Chahar, Krunal, Shahbaz still got sold Shabaz timed his SMAT century perfectly. Lord 1 Link to comment
lemsip Posted November 26 Share Posted November 26 3 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: Ishant sharma 75 lakhs means Thakur who is current Ranji player definitely is worth something. Yes he is but it is his own fault for setting his base price so high that no one was willing to pay for him at that level. Ishant was clearly more realistic about his worth. Link to comment
putrevus Posted November 26 Share Posted November 26 3 minutes ago, lemsip said: Yes he is but it is his own fault for setting his base price so high that no one was willing to pay for him at that level. Ishant was clearly more realistic about his worth. What happens with unsold players, do they have lower their base price. Link to comment
Lord Posted November 26 Share Posted November 26 2 minutes ago, putrevus said: What happens with unsold players, do they have lower their base price. no remain unsold Link to comment
putrevus Posted November 26 Share Posted November 26 Just now, Lord said: no remain unsold So they don't get to play next season at any price? Link to comment
Lord Posted November 26 Share Posted November 26 5 minutes ago, putrevus said: So they don't get to play next season at any price? no unless someone picks them up as a replacement player. Then they get the amount the player they replaced would have got. There's a mini auction every year though. putrevus 1 Link to comment
Nikhil_cric Posted November 26 Share Posted November 26 25 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: Ishant sharma 75 lakhs means Thakur who is current Ranji player definitely is worth something. Ishant averages around 23 over the last 2 seasons at economy of 9 ish. Offers a high release point etc. Shardul offers nothing especially in the Impact player era. Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted November 26 Share Posted November 26 19 minutes ago, lemsip said: Yes he is but it is his own fault for setting his base price so high that no one was willing to pay for him at that level. Ishant was clearly more realistic about his worth. 2 crore base price is not over price for a current player and also someone who went for 2 plus crores every single season. May be could have set at 1 crore. I think make up of the other teams, timing of his bidding all would have contributed to him being not sold. Link to comment
lemsip Posted November 26 Share Posted November 26 4 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: 2 crore base price is not over price for a current player and also someone who went for 2 plus crores every single season. It doesn't matter what you think. The market thinks 2 crores is overpriced for Shardul. That's the only thing that matters and that's why he did not get a single bid. Every team is aware of the past valuations..they are making decisions for the future. As players age beyond their 30s, their value naturally diminishes unless their recent performance makes the opposite case. putrevus 1 Link to comment
Ultimate_Game Posted November 26 Share Posted November 26 Players like Shardul Thakur are the biggest victims of Impact Player rule. Now teams can play specialist bowlers and replace one of those with a batsman. There's no incentive to play players like Shardul who can contribute with both but isn't that great at either. Impact Player rule is also holding back development of our batting all-rounders such as Abhishek, Riyan, Nitish etc. The sooner we get rid of Impact Player rule the better for Indian cricket. We already struggle with developing all-rounders and with this rule, we're gonna struggle even more. Vk1 1 Link to comment
Lord Posted November 26 Share Posted November 26 Just now, Ultimate_Game said: Players like Shardul Thakur are the biggest victims of Impact Player rule. Now teams can play specialist bowlers and replace one of those with a batsman. There's no incentive to play players like Shardul who can contribute with both but isn't that great at either. Impact Player rule is also holding back development of our batting all-rounders such as Abhishek, Riyan, Nitish etc. The sooner we get rid of Impact Player rule the better for Indian cricket. We already struggle with developing all-rounders and with this rule, we're gonna struggle even more. Guys like Jansen,Curran,Marsh got picked. Venky Iyer got a big bid. Reddy,Pandu,Parag are retained already.Other Indians like Sundar,Bawa etc got picked too. You gotta be quality in whichever aspect you are. The rule punishes low quality/over the hill players even if they are AR Link to comment
maniac Posted November 26 Author Share Posted November 26 BCCI should allow players like Shaw, Thakur in leagues like ILT20, the USA T20 league etc. there is some good T20 talent playing there, those pitches are competitive for T20 and not ridiculous 250+ scores. Most franchises are owned by Indian owners anyways so viewership and more money. Those names have some market value especially if they play in some foreign league. This can be seriously looked into. I know Rayudu, Uthappa were allowed after retirement but having players with still some career left will be good. who knows these guys can become Most wanted T20 freelancers. Shaw has the destructive game, Thakur has destructive batting, clutch temperament and while he has become a trundler, has all the basic skills like swing, seam etc so can improve. Link to comment
maniac Posted November 26 Author Share Posted November 26 1 hour ago, Nikhil_cric said: Ishant averages around 23 over the last 2 seasons at economy of 9 ish. Offers a high release point etc. Shardul offers nothing especially in the Impact player era. Didn’t Thakur play a clutch knock lower down the order for KKR last season? I would take him any day over likes of Tushar Deshpande etc. as much as I like Sam Curran on IPL pitches Curran = Thakur. Link to comment
The Realist Posted November 26 Share Posted November 26 3 minutes ago, maniac said: BCCI should allow players like Shaw, Thakur in leagues like ILT20, the USA T20 league etc. there is some good T20 talent playing there, those pitches are competitive for T20 and not ridiculous 250+ scores. Most franchises are owned by Indian owners anyways so viewership and more money. Those names have some market value especially if they play in some foreign league. This can be seriously looked into. I know Rayudu, Uthappa were allowed after retirement but having players with still some career left will be good. who knows these guys can become Most wanted T20 freelancers. Shaw has the destructive game, Thakur has destructive batting, clutch temperament and while he has become a trundler, has all the basic skills like swing, seam etc so can improve. Certainly can destroy a mini buffet and will keep local takeaways in business adi B and maniac 2 Link to comment
Austin 3:!6 Posted November 26 Share Posted November 26 9 hours ago, Serpico said: Impact player rule killed off the demand for bits and pieces players in ipl Impact player rule is removed now right? Link to comment
Lord Posted November 26 Share Posted November 26 7 minutes ago, Austin 3:!6 said: Impact player rule is removed now right? no Link to comment
maniac Posted November 26 Author Share Posted November 26 40 minutes ago, The Realist said: Certainly can destroy a mini buffet and will keep local takeaways in business Thakur and Shaw will increase stock value of DoorDash Link to comment
Nikhil_cric Posted November 26 Share Posted November 26 45 minutes ago, maniac said: Didn’t Thakur play a clutch knock lower down the order for KKR last season? I would take him any day over likes of Tushar Deshpande etc. as much as I like Sam Curran on IPL pitches Curran = Thakur. That may have been in 2023. In 2024 , he was barely given a chance to bat Link to comment
bowl_out Posted November 26 Share Posted November 26 3 hours ago, vvvslaxman said: 2 crore base price is not over price for a current player and also someone who went for 2 plus crores every single season. May be could have set at 1 crore. I think make up of the other teams, timing of his bidding all would have contributed to him being not sold. Great chart. Chennai were always realistic about what they paid him.. Delhi and KKR went overboard and he was brought back to a meaningful price. He should have set his base price at 1cr after a terrible season last year Link to comment
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