South Africa v/s Sri Lanka Test Series 2024 - 2 Tests.

[deathmonger]

12 minutes ago, neel roy said:

Second test Siraj could mkt bowl as he got injured and then there was rain. Ball got damp. Pujara dropped a sitter of Daadima

Yeah. Main issue has been 3rd pacer.

 

3rd match Umesh played who is poor overseas.

 

Even this time Prasidh was ineffective. Mukesh bowled well in 2nd test.

[rollingstoned]

5 hours ago, Lord said:

Jadeja bowled in one Test in SA so far. Picked a 6fer without much support. Has done well in Aus too. 

 

That said Prabhath is very good prospect too

Those 6 wickets were in an innings where Saf scored 500 and there were some cheap Wickets in there too because Saf were going for it. You can say he had no support but it is what it is. Even Ashwin has had a few important ones despite his poor average overseas. 

[Nikhil_cric]

39 minutes ago, Lord said:

@Nikhil_cric Vishwa round the wicket gets Markram

This is what he should have done a lot earlier .  Left arm seamers should train to bowl around the wicket as stock deliveries to RHB

[Ultimate_Game]

2 hours ago, The Hound said:

Yes. This is why I don't think it's fair to compare Kohli's stats with Sachin/Dravid in tests and conclude that he's an inferior batsman. Previous generation played on much better batting wickets. 

 

SA pitches were always spicy. India was bowled out for 66 and 100 in a Test in SA in 90s. And NZ pitches used to be so green that cows could graze on it. A series in early 2000s had Ind and NZ bundled out for below 100 in their 1st innings.

 

Batting hasn't gotten easy. There used to be bowling friendly pitches earlier as well and you still get pattas today. That's how it has always been.

[Laaloo]

5 hours ago, putrevus said:

Pitches every where in general have become bowler friendly.

 

We are rarely seeing 500 plus scores.

It's a combination of many things. Batters don't know how to leave balls and play for time. Openers don't know how to survive the new ball so the middle order can cash in later on. It's all intent bs. Look at all these shots played by SL.

[Laaloo]

1 hour ago, Ultimate_Game said:

 

SA pitches were always spicy. India was bowled out for 66 and 100 in a Test in SA in 90s. And NZ pitches used to be so green that cows could graze on it. A series in early 2000s had Ind and NZ bundled out for below 100 in their 1st innings.

 

Batting hasn't gotten easy. There used to be bowling friendly pitches earlier as well and you still get pattas today. That's how it has always been.

Yeah SA and NZ have always been spicy. The only pitches that were flat in 2000s were probably Sydney pitch.

[putrevus]

1 hour ago, Laaloo said:

It's a combination of many things. Batters don't know how to leave balls and play for time. Openers don't know how to survive the new ball so the middle order can cash in later on. It's all intent bs. Look at all these shots played by SL.

Indian team with all great batsmen including Sachin got rolled over in 20overs that too in  India for 76. 

Irfan Pathan and extras contributed 40 of those runs.

 

Bowlers are bowling on extra bowler juicy  wickets now.

 

Clarke took 6 wickets for one runs in Mumbai test on Bunsen burner wicket. So those so called great batsmen against spinners were useless on Bunsen burners.

 

 

 

[Laaloo]

2 hours ago, putrevus said:

Indian team with all great batsmen including Sachin got rolled over in 20overs that too in  India for 76. 

Irfan Pathan and extras contributed 40 of those runs.

 

Bowlers are bowling on extra bowler juicy  wickets now.

 

Clarke took 6 wickets for one runs in Mumbai test on Bunsen burner wicket. So those so called great batsmen against spinners were useless on Bunsen burners.

 

 

 

What does that have to do with anything? Did you see SL innings today? Tell me how many of those were due to the pitch? Most of them were batsman not learning the art of leaving or slashing outside off.  Clarke took 6/9 because the wicket had determined badly and 4 of those were tail enders. What other tests have they failed against spinners? The only ones I remember is the Shane udal test Mumbai 2006 and Bangalore test against Afridi and the other spinner in 2005. The batters today are struggling against everyone.

[putrevus]

55 minutes ago, Laaloo said:

What does that have to do with anything? Did you see SL innings today? Tell me how many of those were due to the pitch? Most of them were batsman not learning the art of leaving or slashing outside off.  Clarke took 6/9 because the wicket had determined badly and 4 of those were tail enders. What other tests have they failed against spinners? The only ones I remember is the Shane udal test Mumbai 2006 and Bangalore test against Afridi and the other spinner in 2005. The batters today are struggling 

 

SL is  a bad team but they did compete well in England .

 

Batsmen especially Indian days are not getting respite plus some teams have become worse. So it  is a combination.

 

How did mighty Indian lineup do in 2002 test series in NZ.  
 

If those batsmen kept playing on juicy wickets they would have done lot worse than their records.

Those days they got respite and played on those wickets very infrequently.

 

 

[neel roy]

8 hours ago, Ultimate_Game said:

 

SA pitches were always spicy. India was bowled out for 66 and 100 in a Test in SA in 90s. And NZ pitches used to be so green that cows could graze on it. A series in early 2000s had Ind and NZ bundled out for below 100 in their 1st innings.

 

Batting hasn't gotten easy. There used to be bowling friendly pitches earlier as well and you still get pattas today. That's how it has always been.

Yes and our bowling line up in the 1996 series was srinath, venkatesh prasad, Dodda Ganesh and David Johnson.. facing off against Alland Donald Shaun Pollock Klusener.. oh and our opening batsman was ex mens team coach Vikram Rathour and ex womens team coach WV Raman. Khub jamega rang jab milenge do yaar aur saamne hoga Donald..all out 100. all out 66.. 

[Suhaan]

A certain budhjeevi wants to convey,don't count Kohli's tailendersque batting offlate on slightly challenging wickets because because because because these are bowler fraaandly wickets

Had he batted in previous era against Warne,Murli,Saqlain,Mushtaq,McGrath,Wasim,Donald,Bond etc he would have thrashed them and maintained 90-100+ avg

[rollingstoned]

4 hours ago, putrevus said:

 

SL is  a bad team but they did compete well in England .

 

Batsmen especially Indian days are not getting respite plus some teams have become worse. So it  is a combination.

 

How did mighty Indian lineup do in 2002 test series in NZ.  
 

If those batsmen kept playing on juicy wickets they would have done lot worse than their records.

Those days they got respite and played on those wickets very infrequently.

 

 

Those were the most doctored and bowling friendly wickets that Nzl has produced in this century for a home series. More than what we faced in 2020. 

[Nikhil_cric]

4 hours ago, Suhaan said:

A certain budhjeevi wants to convey,don't count Kohli's tailendersque batting offlate on slightly challenging wickets because because because because these are bowler fraaandly wickets

Had he batted in previous era against Warne,Murli,Saqlain,Mushtaq,McGrath,Wasim,Donald,Bond etc he would have thrashed them and maintained 90-100+ avg

It's true that batting conditions are tougher in Southern Hemisphere than it's been for nearly 2 decades 

 

But what he fails to acknowledge is that Kohli failed even on pitches at home .

 

And also in T20's he has, bar the odd knock , been average for 5 years or so .

 

 

 

 

 

[Suhaan]

1 hour ago, Nikhil_cric said:

It's true that batting conditions are tougher in Southern Hemisphere than it's been for nearly 2 decades 

 

But what he fails to acknowledge is that Kohli failed even on pitches at home .

 

And also in T20's he has, bar the odd knock , been average for 5 years or so .

 

 

 

 

 

Yes he even failed on flat or sporting wickets,there is no doubt about it

Pitches are more challenging because of WTC,SENA  sides don't want to drop even 1 test

We did it too

[Lone Wolf]

Lankans have mentally checked out of this game after 42 AO.

These runs must be taken with a pinch of salt.

SA batting is still vulnerable 

[Lord]

didnt know he was this tall lol

 

 

[Manucrick]

Sa likely to play wtc final 

[dilliboy]

Stubbs is so good man...future superstar at all formats 

[Ultimate_Game]

11 hours ago, Suhaan said:

A certain budhjeevi wants to convey,don't count Kohli's tailendersque batting offlate on slightly challenging wickets because because because because these are bowler fraaandly wickets

Had he batted in previous era against Warne,Murli,Saqlain,Mushtaq,McGrath,Wasim,Donald,Bond etc he would have thrashed them and maintained 90-100+ avg

 

6 hours ago, Nikhil_cric said:

It's true that batting conditions are tougher in Southern Hemisphere than it's been for nearly 2 decades 

 

But what he fails to acknowledge is that Kohli failed even on pitches at home .

 

And also in T20's he has, bar the odd knock , been average for 5 years or so .

 

 

 

 

 

 

We all know what that Kohli bhakt's PR agenda. All the pitches where "King" Kohli bats are minefield and bowler friendly. And all of the earlier matches before the so called King started playing were batting friendly. As per that moron if Kohli had batted in earlier eras he would've broken Bradman's records even though he isn't even close to the best batsman in this era.

 

You could replace Kohli with any other batter from our domestic structure and we wouldn't have been any worse. In fact there're more chances of replacement batters actually showing up in an ICC must win match. Absolutely didn't make a difference other than piling cheap, impactless runs in bilaterals.

[rollingstoned]

Lol good to see Kamindu mendis's avg taking a hit finally. Expect him to fail in the next test too. Smashed the cover off the ball.and reviewed it, confidence kindaad Deni padegi. 

Lankans being brought down to earth is good.