We got away with our bowling .. need to have a good balance

[Lone Wolf]

4 hours ago, singhvivek141 said:

That's where we need proper pace allrounders who can keep the pressure with the bowl and also don't compromise our batting lineup.

 

Harshit is a rookie and though he has potential with bat, expecting him to deliver returns immediately may not be the right thing at this moment. Nitish is trying his best with the bowl but unless he bowls in 130-137 range, he wont be able to have much impact in Australia. 

 

So Bumrah need to do the heavy lifting till Shami comes back. Siraj can't lead this bowling attack and in absence of Bumrah, he can be a loose cannon.

Shami was l off colour in SMAT game against Mizoram 46 off 4 overs...

I think he might be done as a test class pacer.

Need to give likes of Rana Akashdeep more responsibility now.

[Lord]

8 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

Shami was l off colour in SMAT game against Mizoram 46 off 4 overs...

I think he might be done as a test class pacer.

Need to give likes of Rana Akashdeep more responsibility now.

Every pacer is getting tonked in SMAT. Pandu got smacked by Shankar of all people

[Lone Wolf]

21 minutes ago, Lord said:

Every pacer is getting tonked in SMAT. Pandu got smacked by Shankar of all people

But getting thrashed by Mizoram batters is a low point regardless 

[singhvivek141]

38 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

Shami was l off colour in SMAT game against Mizoram 46 off 4 overs...

I think he might be done as a test class pacer.

Need to give likes of Rana Akashdeep more responsibility now.

Shami can give runs in T20's. Won't worry much about that.

If he is able to bowl overs consistently without any discomfort, then it should be fine for us.

Edited November 28, 2024 by singhvivek141

[straighttalk]

4 hours ago, singhvivek141 said:

Shami can give runs in T20's. Won't worry much about that.

If he is able to bowl overs consistently without any discomfort, then it should be fine for us.

He is coming back after injury..it will take time but BGT isn't right for him 

 

[putrevus]

5 hours ago, singhvivek141 said:

Shami can give runs in T20's. Won't worry much about that.

If he is able to bowl overs consistently without any discomfort, then it should be fine for us.

But it is still too much to expect a guy to play test cricket and bowl 20 overs in a day.

[Ultimate_Game]

Shami was never a T20 bowler. He's a wkt taker and his strong suites are Tests followed by ODIs.

[sandeep]

On 11/27/2024 at 1:10 PM, express bowling said:

 

 

I agree. Bumrah is the difference between the 2 teams and must be protected at all costs. 

 

Harshit + Akashdeep can provide about 0.7 batsman. 

 

6. Washington 

7. Nitish

8. Harshit .. can bat 

9. Akashdeep .. can bat a bit 

10. Bumrah

11. Siraj.

 

 

If we are playing 4 frontline pacers in Boom, Siraj, Akashdeep and Harshit, then what is the point of having Nitish in the team? Yes he did brilliantly well with the bat in Perth.  But the case for him becomes weaker if we don't need his bowling. 

 

Yes its a bit harsh to bench him after he did absolutely nothing wrong but team balance takes primacy. 

 

I still think Team is going to stick to its 3 pacer gamble - and it may well work if the conditions are bowler friendly - which they generally are with the pink ball tests.  I mean, even Australia can't afford to skew conditions towards batting, because they know their pacers are also old and they have a 5th bowler problem already. 

[putrevus]

Bumrah can be rested in Sydney and Melbourne.

[sandeep]

6 minutes ago, putrevus said:

Bumrah can be rested in Sydney and Melbourne.

if we win the series by then, yes.  Thats utterly realistic.  Unlikely that he'll want to, but we can actually afford to, which in itself is testament to how good we have it.

[express bowling]

1 hour ago, putrevus said:

Bumrah can be rested in Sydney and Melbourne.

 

Bumrah is amazing in Melbourne.

[express bowling]

2 hours ago, sandeep said:

If we are playing 4 frontline pacers in Boom, Siraj, Akashdeep and Harshit, then what is the point of having Nitish in the team? Yes he did brilliantly well with the bat in Perth.  But the case for him becomes weaker if we don't need his bowling. 

 

Yes its a bit harsh to bench him after he did absolutely nothing wrong but team balance takes primacy. 

 

Even as a pure batter, he is the only one who has performed in both innings at Perth.

 

More importantly, he has looked comfortable against pace and bounce while attacking or defending. 

 

He would maintain team balance as a top 6 batter.

 

 

 

2 hours ago, sandeep said:

 

I still think Team is going to stick to its 3 pacer gamble - and it may well work if the conditions are bowler friendly - which they generally are with the pink ball tests.  I mean, even Australia can't afford to skew conditions towards batting, because they know their pacers are also old and they have a 5th bowler problem already. 

 

That's true.

 

But if we have to bowl more during the day then Bumrah may still become tired and the 3rd test has a 3 day gap only.

[sandeep]

1 hour ago, express bowling said:

But if we have to bowl more during the day then Bumrah may still become tired and the 3rd test has a 3 day gap only.

This is why I'd rather go with 4 pacers and Washi/Jaddu instead of 3 pacers + Nitish and a spinner-batter....

 

Nitish did no wrong in his debut, but team balance means a Jaddu/Washi edges him out of the XI if we are going with 4 pacers already...

[Ultimate_Game]

3 hours ago, express bowling said:

 

Bumrah is amazing in Melbourne.

 

Yup. The only venue he should be rested in is in Sydney.

[express bowling]

11 hours ago, sandeep said:

This is why I'd rather go with 4 pacers and Washi/Jaddu instead of 3 pacers + Nitish and a spinner-batter....

 

Nitish did no wrong in his debut, but team balance means a Jaddu/Washi edges him out of the XI if we are going with 4 pacers already...

 

Gill's match fitness is unknown after a finger fracture.

 

It's safer to go with NKR.

 

Gill will look better on paper but a pink ball test is not the ideal match for a comeback. 

 

1. Jaiswal 

2. Rahul

3. Rohit

4. Kohli

5. Pant

6. NKR

7. Washington

8. Harshit

9. Akashdeep 

10. Bumrah 

11. Siraj 

[QuarantineTormentino]

Unpopular opinion: we shouldn’t change the bowling lineup for the next Test.. right now we have 3 seamers + 2 batting all rounders, 1 spin and 1 seam. In a pink ball test batting depth is more important than bowling depth, even average seamers can easily take wickets but batters will fall like nine pins and extending the batting lineup means increasing the probability of 2-3 batters who can play crucial game-deciding knocks. A bowling lineup of Bumrah-Akash/Siraj-Harshit-Sundar/Jadeja should be fine in the pink ball test

[QuarantineTormentino]

Just now, QuarantineTormentino said:

Unpopular opinion: we shouldn’t change the bowling lineup for the next Test.. right now we have 3 seamers + 2 batting all rounders, 1 spin and 1 seam. In a pink ball test batting depth is more important than bowling depth, even average seamers can easily take wickets but batters will fall like nine pins and extending the batting lineup means increasing the probability of 2-3 batters who can play crucial game-deciding knocks. A bowling lineup of Bumrah-Akash/Siraj-Harshit-Sundar/Jadeja should be fine in the pink ball test

With Nitish for banjo backup of course

[coffee_rules]

On 11/30/2024 at 1:33 AM, express bowling said:

 

Gill's match fitness is unknown after a finger fracture.

 

It's safer to go with NKR.

 

Gill will look better on paper but a pink ball test is not the ideal match for a comeback. 

 

1. Jaiswal 

2. Rahul

3. Rohit

4. Kohli

5. Pant

6. NKR

7. Washington

8. Harshit

9. Akashdeep 

10. Bumrah 

11. Siraj 

5 pace bowlers (counting NKR) ? Gill is most likelly to play. 

[vvvslaxman]

On 11/29/2024 at 11:47 AM, express bowling said:

 

Bumrah is amazing in Melbourne.

 

I cannot imagine Boxing day test without Bumrah. It is an event. Spectacle. Bumrah's sheer presence will only add more spice to it.