Ultimate_Game Posted December 15, 2024 Share Posted December 15, 2024 6 minutes ago, Suhaan said: I will always keep Abhishek ,his temperament must be milked in t20s Can bowl too Let Jaiswal concentrate more on tests for now,not as if we desperately need him there in t20s I would have both in the team. Jaiswal is one of the very few batters who's actually an all-format batter and should be in the team. Link to comment
rollingstoned Posted December 15, 2024 Share Posted December 15, 2024 Don't understand why they had to have 2 games back to back on consecutive days instead of last match on Sunday. They should try to play today if they can. Link to comment
tapandrun Posted December 15, 2024 Share Posted December 15, 2024 On 12/13/2024 at 6:22 PM, Ultimate_Game said: Depends on our selection. They may decide to go with likes of Avesh Khan and bring back Dube, Gill and Ruturaj who're useless in T20s. We had a pretty good side in SA thanks to some of the tuk tuk players (aka multi-format batters) away in Aus. Who knows what our genius selectors will do when they have all the players available. I wouldn't put it past them to have a top order of Gill, Ruturaj with likes of Abhishek sent back, and Rinku replaced with Dube. Remember, we're talking Indian selectors who don't go by performances but by brand. If they select the team on performance, we should be untouchable. Other teams are fielding their b/c/d teams and winning and Ind needs their top side.....?? Link to comment
Ultimate_Game Posted December 15, 2024 Share Posted December 15, 2024 Just now, tapandrun said: Other teams are fielding their b/c/d teams and winning and Ind needs their top side.....?? For the WT20 in India next year. Don't care about bilaterals. We have the opportunity to win the cup with proper selections, and not by shoving "all format" tuk tukkers into the side. tapandrun 1 Link to comment
tapandrun Posted December 15, 2024 Share Posted December 15, 2024 On 12/11/2024 at 2:47 PM, Norman said: Their T20 batting is absolutely garbage. Always has been. No power hitters , no consistent dynamic players .nothing. India's 3rd choice batters like Kishan, Iyer, Gaikwad, Tripathi , Nehal Wadhera etc would walk eyes closed into their XI. With Riwan and Babar at top and their approach, Pak team needs a world class hitter who is v.assured. It mostly boils down to needing 4/6 every ball by the end of 17/18 to get to just par or sub par score. There have been such innings from Asif Ali, Nawaz, Iftikar, Shah. Not sure why they asked Fakkar to play in middle order, he is one who can maximize pp and take the game away But for some1 to do that consistency its v.hard, only pollard, maxwell, russell may have that kind of capability. Even russell had issue with kkr and powell with dc about their batting order. Link to comment
Iconoclast Posted December 15, 2024 Share Posted December 15, 2024 1 hour ago, tapandrun said: With Riwan and Babar at top and their approach, Pak team needs a world class hitter who is v.assured. It mostly boils down to needing 4/6 every ball by the end of 17/18 to get to just par or sub par score. There have been such innings from Asif Ali, Nawaz, Iftikar, Shah. Not sure why they asked Fakkar to play in middle order, he is one who can maximize pp and take the game away But for some1 to do that consistency its v.hard, only pollard, maxwell, russell may have that kind of capability. Even russell had issue with kkr and powell with dc about their batting order. Babar/Rizwan worked with Shadab and Imad Wasim down the order. One of them needs to get dropped now. Link to comment
singhvivek141 Posted December 16, 2024 Share Posted December 16, 2024 14 hours ago, Iconoclast said: Babar/Rizwan worked with Shadab and Imad Wasim down the order. One of them needs to get dropped now. Don't think Babar or Rizwan are the problem. Key culprit is the bowling, Shaheen has been underperforming from quite some time, but due to his father in law, no one questions him ever. Link to comment
tapandrun Posted December 16, 2024 Share Posted December 16, 2024 2 hours ago, singhvivek141 said: Don't think Babar or Rizwan are the problem. Key culprit is the bowling, Shaheen has been underperforming from quite some time, but due to his father in law, no one questions him ever. Shaheen is nt the bowler he used to be, even at his prime he was 1 trick pony. He had 1-2 year of purple patch and then wheels went off. Pak had the perfect t20 bowling template but as soon as 1 part went off all went off. But as a batting unit they can not give below par/just par scores for bowling to defend every match, bowling 110% per match takes a lot out of the bowler. As a bowling unit they know they cannot give more than 165 run for their batter to chase down. Ayub looks like a good addition , nt sure of his intnl quality yet, got some LA leg spinner plus some mystery spin too. Link to comment
singhvivek141 Posted December 17, 2024 Share Posted December 17, 2024 11 hours ago, tapandrun said: Shaheen is nt the bowler he used to be, even at his prime he was 1 trick pony. He had 1-2 year of purple patch and then wheels went off. Pak had the perfect t20 bowling template but as soon as 1 part went off all went off. But as a batting unit they can not give below par/just par scores for bowling to defend every match, bowling 110% per match takes a lot out of the bowler. As a bowling unit they know they cannot give more than 165 run for their batter to chase down. Ayub looks like a good addition , nt sure of his intnl quality yet, got some LA leg spinner plus some mystery spin too. Pakistan don't have batters. If they drop Rizwan & Babar as well, all they will get is hacks who will swing everything in the cow corner. Afridi has killed the generation of their batters. Fakhar is old & inconsistent, so does Saim. They will perform once in 10 games. Atleast Babar & Rizwan are giving them some solidity. Pakistan's strength traditionally has been bowling, specially fast bowling. They need new fast bowlers who can replace the current crop, which is useless as ever. They cant even defend 200+ runs against SA. The spin trio of Imad, Nawaz & Shadab is also utterly mediocre. Not sure about the new spinners, haven't watched them. Link to comment
Nikhil_cric Posted December 17, 2024 Author Share Posted December 17, 2024 41 minutes ago, singhvivek141 said: Pakistan don't have batters. If they drop Rizwan & Babar as well, all they will get is hacks who will swing everything in the cow corner. Afridi has killed the generation of their batters. Fakhar is old & inconsistent, so does Saim. They will perform once in 10 games. Atleast Babar & Rizwan are giving them some solidity. Pakistan's strength traditionally has been bowling, specially fast bowling. They need new fast bowlers who can replace the current crop, which is useless as ever. They cant even defend 200+ runs against SA. The spin trio of Imad, Nawaz & Shadab is also utterly mediocre. Not sure about the new spinners, haven't watched them. ODI batting is better than their T20 lineup and by a distance too. Link to comment
CoverDrive Posted December 17, 2024 Share Posted December 17, 2024 Afridi looking better than in recent times. Link to comment
CoverDrive Posted December 17, 2024 Share Posted December 17, 2024 Rameez Raja just speaks nonsense. “That was profound” describing a shot. “That shot had a stereo effect” cric_fan 1 Link to comment
New guy Posted December 17, 2024 Share Posted December 17, 2024 1 hour ago, CoverDrive said: Afridi looking better than in recent times. While Naseem looks worse. All his hype being found out. Hope Pak finds a good pacer to replace him. Link to comment
Zero_Unit Posted December 17, 2024 Share Posted December 17, 2024 Maharaj's groin strain leaves South Africa sweating ahead of Pakistan Tests where does cricinfo come up with headlines like this lmao ... this sounds more like a Korn title than a cricket title Link to comment
Lord Posted December 17, 2024 Share Posted December 17, 2024 Poyzz 53-3 in 16 chasing 240 Link to comment
rollingstoned Posted December 17, 2024 Share Posted December 17, 2024 Ball not coming on. It's s good score here. 8 th wicket added crucial runs for Saf. Link to comment
CoverDrive Posted December 17, 2024 Share Posted December 17, 2024 Shamsi has become rounder that Rizwan wicket was waiting to happen the way he plays. now a run out lol Link to comment
Lord Posted December 17, 2024 Share Posted December 17, 2024 is Zimbabar not playing? Link to comment
Laaloo Posted December 17, 2024 Share Posted December 17, 2024 22 minutes ago, Lord said: is Zimbabar not playing? ?? He made 23 Lord 1 Link to comment
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