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Vijay Hazare Trophy - 2024

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singhvivek141 Grand Master

singhvivek141

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22 minutes ago, Nikhil_cric said:

Would have been nice if there was a Deodhar Trophy of 5 teams so that we can judge some of these guys better on the format. 

Deodhar Trophy is struggling to find a slot...due to presence of SMAT, VHT, Duleep and Ranji. Then we have IPL as well.
Sep-Feb is occupied by these tournaments...March-April-May by IPL. June-July-Aug are rainy seasons.

rkt.india Grand Master

rkt.india

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1 hour ago, singhvivek141 said:

Deodhar Trophy is struggling to find a slot...due to presence of SMAT, VHT, Duleep and Ranji. Then we have IPL as well.
Sep-Feb is occupied by these tournaments...March-April-May by IPL. June-July-Aug are rainy seasons.

IPL only starts mostly at the end of March. Deodhar is at best a 10-day tournament. 

Nikhil_cric Grand Master

Nikhil_cric

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2 hours ago, singhvivek141 said:

Deodhar Trophy is struggling to find a slot...due to presence of SMAT, VHT, Duleep and Ranji. Then we have IPL as well.
Sep-Feb is occupied by these tournaments...March-April-May by IPL. June-July-Aug are rainy seasons.

Something has to give in our domestic system .  Maybe they can hold VHT and Deodhar concurrently with Deodhar having the best available players and VHT only having the rest. 

Vijy Grand Master

Vijy

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5 hours ago, Nikhil_cric said:

Not eye Test. Data from i-Hawk cameras in domestic. 

also eye test and gut feelings too, especially stokes

Vijy Grand Master

Vijy

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1 hour ago, Need4Speed said:

I hope everything is fine with Raj Bawa..He has not been bowling since last few matches..just batted..

too many bowling options.. or is it fitness issue?

Vijy Grand Master

Vijy

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2 hours ago, Need4Speed said:

I hope its not fitness issue..if too many bowling options..are they so good…

they may be better for the pitches they are playing

 

Edit: it doesn't seem like it, so it is pretty strange

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Vijy Grand Master

Vijy

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Since we are at mid-point of VHT, I want to offer some thoughts:

 

1. Looks like there have been lots of flat pitches. So bowlers not doing great is understandable.

2. Almost of the "top" bowlers (i.e., those in the top 20 wkt takers) strike me as new emerging talents for ICT. Arshdeep did well, but is already a semi-established player. Mavin trundler did fine, but we know that he flatters to deceive. Arora is a solid seamer, but probably not fully int'l class, except for swinging pitches. Kambhoj is a trundler, but may do okay on some pitches (can hit as well in List A).

Maybe only lone spark is that Prince Yadav has started off well, though some wkts were against weaker teams.

3. ARs have been largely missing in action. Likes of Bawa are not bowling, and some (e.g., Hangu) have not gotten chances.

4. Lot of batters have done well, but about 1/4th are have-beens like Mandeep, Mayank and Nair. Half are domestic bullies not suited for int'l cricket: Vohra, Prashant Chopa, Hebbar, Kalsi, etc.

Interesting thing is that some promising players have done well: Abhishek Sharma/Porel; A. Mhatre (kid is only 17 and already with good FC/List A record); Prabhsimran and Lomror (neither may be fully int'l class, but both have secondary skills - keeping and bowling, respectively). Also nice to see Siddhesh Veer making step-up from past U19 days to do well with bat and ball.

 

ind_hyd1 Community Regular

ind_hyd1

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Still no sign of Kuldeep, Umran, Kartik Tyagi,Simarjeet and Tushar Deshpande. I know they had serious injuries but its almost 7 months.

 

Hope selectors test some the current trundlers in  End ODI series instead of Avesh and Mukesh

 

 

Vijy Grand Master

Vijy

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29 minutes ago, ind_hyd1 said:

Still no sign of Kuldeep, Umran, Kartik Tyagi,Simarjeet and Tushar Deshpande. I know they had serious injuries but its almost 7 months.

 

Hope selectors test some the current trundlers in  End ODI series instead of Avesh and Mukesh

 

 

trundlers should not be played, but we will probably still see them

bouncers Community Regular

bouncers

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2 hours ago, ind_hyd1 said:

Still no sign of Kuldeep, Umran, Kartik Tyagi,Simarjeet and Tushar Deshpande. I know they had serious injuries but its almost 7 months.

 

Hope selectors test some the current trundlers in  End ODI series instead of Avesh and Mukesh

 

 

There is news that mayank yadav will play it this series

Suhaan Grand Master

Suhaan

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2 hours ago, Vijy said:

trundlers should not be played, but we will probably still see them

Mayank Yadav gives me Munaf Patel vibes,tears into the screen as the next speed demon only to end up as rank trundler due to injury scares and pussy attitude

ind_hyd1 Community Regular

ind_hyd1

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8 minutes ago, Suhaan said:

Mayank Yadav gives me Munaf Patel vibes,tears into the screen as the next speed demon only to end up as rank trundler due to injury scares and pussy attitude

 

Hope he keeps in mind that pace is his USP  and with out it he won't be able to survive. Thats where i feel Nagarkoti is good, saw his videos in insta eventough he is getting injured frequently he seems to be making a conscious effort to bowl fast. Not sure about the speeds but effort seems to be there

 

ind_hyd1 Community Regular

ind_hyd1

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2 hours ago, Vijy said:

trundlers should not be played, but we will probably still see them

Correct, why give only chance to 2 tried and tested trundler. Let them try out others bowling at the same speed 

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