sensible-indian Posted January 2, 2025 Posted January 2, 2025 2 hours ago, AuxiliA said: 'Godi Media' existed since forever, BJP are just newbies in town. It was worse during the pre Social media days when the Cong and the leftists had complete stranglehold on media and people weren't even aware about it back then. Today atleast we get to hear about the Hindu point of view. Earlier talking about Hindus was considered blasphemous in a Hindu majority country! Look how they whitewashed the Hindu/Sikh genocide in Kashmir during 80s-90s or spread blatant disinformation about the Godhra train burning and subsequent riots. Pro government media entities existed forever. Not Godi media. If you really think media was the same pre 2014, what can I say
AuxiliA Posted January 2, 2025 Posted January 2, 2025 9 minutes ago, sensible-indian said: Pro government media entities existed forever. Not Godi media. If you really think media was the same pre 2014, what can I say No I don't think that at all. Today Indian Media overall is much more democratic and balanced than it was before 2014, when a handful of leftist elites controlled the entire narrative and ostracised anyone who didn't tow their ideological line. Pre 2014 it was a 'communal' sin to talk about Hindu identity and issues in a Hindu majority country! SandeepMotta 1
sensible-indian Posted January 2, 2025 Posted January 2, 2025 2 minutes ago, AuxiliA said: No I don't think that at all. Today Indian Media overall is much more democratic and balanced than it was before 2014, when a handful of leftist elites controlled the entire narrative and ostracised anyone who didn't tow their ideological line. Pre 2014 it was a 'communal' sin to talk about Hindu identity and issues in a Hindu majority country! Fascinating how the human mind works. SandeepMotta 1
AuxiliA Posted January 2, 2025 Posted January 2, 2025 4 minutes ago, sensible-indian said: Fascinating how the human mind works. Same to you bro..
SachDan Posted January 8, 2025 Author Posted January 8, 2025 Your firm inked the deal with Kohli just before the commencement of the Australian tour. Since then matters became worse for Kohli. We know how desperate you’re at the moment…we do understand your pain but it can’t at the expense of Team India’s interest Lord and express bowling 2
New guy Posted June 16, 2025 Posted June 16, 2025 On 12/30/2024 at 3:57 PM, Trichromatic said: There is no conflict of interest. On 12/31/2024 at 9:08 AM, rkt.india said: What is conflict of interest here? Shastri is not a coach or selector or associated with BCCI. I sometimes wonder if people here are not employed. Any company I worked with had huge brochures on what conflict of interest is and how you should avoid even the appearance of one in a private company. A commentator being paid by BCCI being in a business with a player is itself the textbook example for conflict of interest. Then the commentator intentionally unfairly praises him to boost his own business. I have also seen shastri put down other young players like Pant and others and criticize them unfairly while singing praises of Kohli If you don't believe that's conflict of interest, you just don't understand what that term means. This is textbook example of conflict of interest. Ultimate_Game, Lord and express bowling 1 2
Trichromatic Posted June 16, 2025 Posted June 16, 2025 9 hours ago, New guy said: I sometimes wonder if people here are not employed. Any company I worked with had huge brochures on what conflict of interest is and how you should avoid even the appearance of one in a private company. A commentator being paid by BCCI being in a business with a player is itself the textbook example for conflict of interest. Then the commentator intentionally unfairly praises him to boost his own business. I have also seen shastri put down other young players like Pant and others and criticize them unfairly while singing praises of Kohli If you don't believe that's conflict of interest, you just don't understand what that term means. This is textbook example of conflict of interest. What is the decision making or decision influencing capacity of commentators?
New guy Posted June 16, 2025 Posted June 16, 2025 6 minutes ago, Trichromatic said: What is the decision making or decision influencing capacity of commentators? Conflict of interest has nothing to do with decision making only. Any inappropriate relationship where you use one job to be biased in another is conflict of interest. Go through your company brochure of conflict of interest. P.S. his decision making capacity is in his management company and he can boost Kohli's market value through commentary hype.
Trichromatic Posted June 16, 2025 Posted June 16, 2025 4 hours ago, New guy said: Conflict of interest has nothing to do with decision making only. Any inappropriate relationship where you use one job to be biased in another is conflict of interest. Go through your company brochure of conflict of interest. P.S. his decision making capacity is in his management company and he can boost Kohli's market value through commentary hype. I don’t know which organisation is telling you these examples of conflict of interest.
lemsip Posted June 16, 2025 Posted June 16, 2025 6 hours ago, New guy said: Conflict of interest has nothing to do with decision making only. Any inappropriate relationship where you use one job to be biased in another is conflict of interest. Go through your company brochure of conflict of interest. This is not an example of an "inappropriate relationship" and a media commentator having a preference or to use a loaded term "bias" is perfectly ok. It is part of the job they do and every commentator will have favourites. Ultimately the free market in which they offer their services will pronounce its verdict if they dish out stuff that turns off viewers and they will have to ease off to survive so there is a self correcting mechanism there. The bottom line is Kohli wasn't performing on the field and whether a particular commentator was a vocal fan of his or not is not that important. My problem with Shastri is more his affected style where he has somehow been led to believe that shouting at the top of his voice while making announcements is something the audience really loves so he should do more of it. That and the killer Troika of chatterbox performance-artist Bhogle, cliche-merchant Gavaskar and bootlicking Murali Kartik makes the commentary coming out of the BCCI panel unlistenable.
New guy Posted June 17, 2025 Posted June 17, 2025 (edited) 10 hours ago, lemsip said: This is not an example of an "inappropriate relationship" and a media commentator having a preference or to use a loaded term "bias" is perfectly ok. It is part of the job they do and every commentator will have favourites. Ultimately the free market in which they offer their services will pronounce its verdict if they dish out stuff that turns off viewers and they will have to ease off to survive so there is a self correcting mechanism there. The bottom line is Kohli wasn't performing on the field and whether a particular commentator was a vocal fan of his or not is not that important. My problem with Shastri is more his affected style where he has somehow been led to believe that shouting at the top of his voice while making announcements is something the audience really loves so he should do more of it. That and the killer Troika of chatterbox performance-artist Bhogle, cliche-merchant Gavaskar and bootlicking Murali Kartik makes the commentary coming out of the BCCI panel unlistenable. 11 hours ago, Trichromatic said: I don’t know which organisation is telling you these examples of conflict of interest. I think you will understand if I use another example. Say someone works for some pan masala company and is also a commentator for BCCI. He brings pan masala in every other comment. Because he wants to boost his business. This is the exact same thing shashtri is doing except with a player. In 2025 Players are brands too. He is using his one job to boost profits for his other job and promoting his own brand, which is a clear conflict of interest. And it's funny to me how in 2025 you don't understand the importance of brands and PR and still believe it's all about performance. How naive are you? Everything is run on brand and PR. Which is why kohli has so many sponsors and bumrah doesn't. Which is why dhoni still has so much following everywhere and gambhir doesn't. So Shashtri is using his commentary gig as a free ad promotion for one of his players. A clear conflict of interest. Edited June 17, 2025 by New guy
lemsip Posted June 17, 2025 Posted June 17, 2025 1 hour ago, New guy said: Say someone works for some pan masala company and is also a commentator for BCCI. He brings pan masala in every other comment. Because he wants to boost his business. That's up to his employers to judge. Not random online posters. 1 hour ago, New guy said: And it's funny to me how in 2025 you don't understand the importance of brands and PR and still believe it's all about performance. How naive are you? Everything is run on brand and PR. Which is why kohli has so many sponsors and bumrah doesn't. Which is why dhoni still has so much following everywhere and gambhir doesn't. You have no idea of my experience, background or involvement in the issues you are opining on. Let's leave it at that.
goose Posted June 17, 2025 Posted June 17, 2025 when someone sh%ts on your face you don't call lawyer to decide if you're angry
Trichromatic Posted June 17, 2025 Posted June 17, 2025 1 hour ago, New guy said: I think you will understand if I use another example. Say someone works for some pan masala company and is also a commentator for BCCI. He brings pan masala in every other comment. Because he wants to boost his business. This is the exact same thing shashtri is doing except with a player. In 2025 Players are brands too. He is using his one job to boost profits for his other job and promoting his own brand, which is a clear conflict of interest. And it's funny to me how in 2025 you don't understand the importance of brands and PR and still believe it's all about performance. How naive are you? Everything is run on brand and PR. Which is why kohli has so many sponsors and bumrah doesn't. Which is why dhoni still has so much following everywhere and gambhir doesn't. So Shashtri is using his commentary gig as a free ad promotion for one of his players. A clear conflict of interest. How is it conflict of interest if shastri is promoting a player brand during commentary? Which are two set of interests at conflict here?
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