Frustrated Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 Tuk Tuk was obviously not the right approach. Our batters realised this and looked to score quickly in the 2nd inning. Folded for 157 in 39 overs. Conclusion: No approach is going to help the team if it's loaded with washed up passengers from top to bottom. deepdynamo, Laaloo and Lord 1 2 Link to comment
Ultimate_Game Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 6 hours ago, Lord said: Jurel yes. Sarfaraz I doubt. Seems more suited to flat or spin friendly decks. Also bit too high risk player Sometimes you need a high risk player to put the opponent on back foot. I would give him a series. His domestic record is way too good for him not to be backed. BacktoCricaddict and Lord 1 1 Link to comment
Lord Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 6 minutes ago, Ultimate_Game said: Sometimes you need a high risk player to put the opponent on back foot. I would give him a series. His domestic record is way too good for him not to be backed. That is for Indian pitches and I'd play him there. Not in SENA unless no other option. Link to comment
Ultimate_Game Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 12 minutes ago, Lord said: That is for Indian pitches and I'd play him there. Not in SENA unless no other option. You need to back your domestic performers away as well. Sarfaraz has deserved his opportunity and if he fails so be it. But if we can carry a passenger like Kohli for 5+ years with no performance(s) to speak of, surely we can give our domestic standouts a series. BacktoCricaddict 1 Link to comment
Lord Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 8 minutes ago, Ultimate_Game said: You need to back your domestic performers away as well. Sarfaraz has deserved his opportunity and if he fails so be it. But if we can carry a passenger like Kohli for 5+ years with no performance(s) to speak of, surely we can give our domestic standouts a series. As I said if no good options, sure back him. But first preference should be for technically sound players like Jurel, Sundar,Sai Link to comment
Laaloo Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 Jadeja DNA Sundar tuk tuked on day 3. And what happened? Team only added 15 runs for the last 4 wickets. Maybe they should have changed the approach. The only guys who were successful were the ones who didn't follow that approach. Ultimate_Game 1 Link to comment
sensible-indian Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 (edited) On 1/4/2025 at 12:58 AM, New guy said: We have NEVER won against australia with a defensive batting mentality and never will. Australia is a team which tramples any team which shows any weakness. Their bowlers will kill any team which are scared Last two series we won we batted positively which put Cummins and others off their line Every single epic win in history against australia was when he hit back, even the dravid laxman partnership they were hitting out after getting set This phattu cowardly mentality has never ever worked against australia in our entire history and never will, we will only get thrashed We are so scared we are making pant bat like pujara and leaving our biggest match winner confused. We have learned no lesson from last bht Phattu fans and team deserve a thrashing To be fair, Pujara defended his way to a series victory in 2018. Plus his defensive game played a huge huge role in 2020 victory too. Problem is we have bad batters who will get out if they attack or defend. The ones who could defend properly (like Sundar) were never promoted up the order so the attackers can get an old ball with tired bowlers. Its a skill, practice & planning issue. Edited January 6 by sensible-indian Lord and BacktoCricaddict 1 1 Link to comment
Ultimate_Game Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 11 minutes ago, sensible-indian said: To be fair, Pujara defended his way to a series victory in 2018. Plus his defensive game played a huge huge role in 2020 victory too. Problem is we have bad batters who will get out if they attack or defend. The ones who could defend properly (like Sundar) were never promoted up the order so the attackers can get an old ball with tired bowlers. Its a skill, practice & planning issue. Why Sundar wasn't pushed up to no. 4 or at the very least 5 is a mystery. He has continually remained unbeaten and has shown a good defensive technique. He should've been pushed up the order to stem the flow of wkts. Kohli at 4 killed us this series. Lord 1 Link to comment
sensible-indian Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Ultimate_Game said: Why Sundar wasn't pushed up to no. 4 or at the very least 5 is a mystery. He has continually remained unbeaten and has shown a good defensive technique. He should've been pushed up the order to stem the flow of wkts. Kohli at 4 killed us this series. Kohli at 4. Rohit. One innings per series wonder boy KL. All are dakkans. Then we have a genius management who couldn't figure out in 8 tests that Sundar needs to bat UP the order. Even Jaddu is quite solid (and known to bat a lot better in first innings than second innings). Even he was never promoted. Imagine Pant & Nitish against Aussies with the old ball & tired bowlers. It's all a clown show man. This is why Sydney loss was so enjoyable for me. Edited January 6 by sensible-indian Ultimate_Game and Laaloo 2 Link to comment
Ultimate_Game Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 7 minutes ago, sensible-indian said: Kohli at 4. Rohit. One innings per series wonder boy KL. All are dakkans. Then we have a genius management who couldn't figure out in 8 tests that Sundar needs to bat UP the order. Even Jaddu is quite solid (and known to bat a lot better in first innings than second innings). Even he was never promoted. Imagine Pant & Nitish against Aussies with the old ball & tired bowlers. It's all a clown show man. This is why Sydney loss was so enjoyable for me. We lost this series because of Rohit and Kohli, and the selectors refused to make the call of dropping them. Replace those two clowns with any other players and we don't lose the series. Lord 1 Link to comment
coffee_rules Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 Saw parts of the last two tests during the vacation. This series resembles the 3-1 drubbing we got in Eng a few years back in 2021. No team strategy in batting and bowling option only in Bumrah. Forgettable series , only positive is that we missed the useless WTC final, good for nothing anyway. We have a pussy team. Jurel was a better option that Gill . Gill is a show-boat in Indian pitches. RoKo are out in a year, Gill is future and he is like this pampered star who performs at home and sucks abroad. Link to comment
CG Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 9 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: Saw parts of the last two tests during the vacation. This series resembles the 3-1 drubbing we got in Eng a few years back in 2021. No team strategy in batting and bowling option only in Bumrah. Forgettable series , only positive is that we missed the useless WTC final, good for nothing anyway. We have a pussy team. Jurel was a better option that Gill . Gill is a show-boat in Indian pitches. RoKo are out in a year, Gill is future and he is like this pampered star who performs at home and sucks abroad. No the series was very close india should have won at mcg if they caught well and sydney if not for bumrah injury .Even with roko not showing up australia batting was worse if you see how inexperienced our attack was apart from bumrah. coffee_rules 1 Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 Nothhing wrong there. Pitch was completely green. It was the toughest time. India turned this into a one innings affair. So we have to look at the performance in the 2nd dig. Link to comment
coffee_rules Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 1 hour ago, CG said: No the series was very close india should have won at mcg if they caught well and sydney if not for bumrah injury .Even with roko not showing up australia batting was worse if you see how inexperienced our attack was apart from bumrah. It is all the more frustrating to see one of the weakest Aussie teams winning the BGT at 3-1. On paper, it looks like a dominating win. It is frsutrating to see, if only we had batter batting, we could have won the third BGT series in Australia in a row. We just caught up with the law of averages. Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 5 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: It is all the more frustrating to see one of the weakest Aussie teams winning the BGT at 3-1. On paper, it looks like a dominating win. It is frsutrating to see, if only we had batter batting, we could have won the third BGT series in Australia in a row. We just caught up with the law of averages. Look at the WTC cycle. ONly on Indian batsman in top 10. Only 2 bowlers in top 10. One of them retired. So basically Bumrah and Jaiswal. That's it. Everyone else was inconsistent or sucked badly. coffee_rules 1 Link to comment
sensible-indian Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 (edited) 1 hour ago, coffee_rules said: It is all the more frustrating to see one of the weakest Aussie teams winning the BGT at 3-1. On paper, it looks like a dominating win. It is frsutrating to see, if only we had batter batting, we could have won the third BGT series in Australia in a row. We just caught up with the law of averages. 1-3 flatters India. Could have easily been 1-4. Bumrah's superhuman performance won us Perth and kept us in the hunt in MCG. Had he ended up with a great series and not a GOAT of GOATS series....the Aussie dominance would have been even more brutal. That's how bad Indian team is. Our 2020 team would SMOKE this Aussie side. Edited January 6 by sensible-indian coffee_rules and rollingstoned 1 1 Link to comment
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