Grooming gangs back in news

[diga]

2 hours ago, Alam_dar said:

 

Everyone agreed on the issue of Pakistani grooming gangs.

As for the other matter, it wasn't me who initiated the conversation about Hindu superiority. It was your friend who made claims about Hindus being superior and the rest of humanity being inferior. I only responded to shed light on the truth after those claims were made.

Your idea of atheism & secularism will not work when one side is violating all ground rules of engagement and indulging in violence , over population, and classifying people into muslims & infidels.  So shut your trap and let us battle for our survival (our way of survival) . Kindly stay away 

[mishra]

1 hour ago, Alam_dar said:

 

 

Thank you for a respectful discussion. 

 

In my opinion, the only possible solution is to take the power away from all predatory religions and ideologies (like communism) and dictators and fascist ultranationalists. This can be done either by making people AWARE of their evils, or even by force if possible (like Taliban).

 

As far as peaceful discussions are concerned, then they are healthy and no reformation is possible without criticism.

 

That is why I fully welcome the idea to criticize secularism, atheism, democracy, feminism, LGBT etc.  while there will be no reformation and progress possible without it. 

 

I am an atheist, but atheism is absolutely not SACRED for me. But yes, SECULARISM and liberalism are sacred from me, while I consider them the systems of HUMANITY, where I have to RESPECT all others even if I have disagreements with them. 

 

The example of Buddha is in front of us, who criticized the Hindu religion peacefully, and departed from it. Or the reverse, where Buddhists converted to Hinduism. 

 

And today, what is the solution of ending a predatory religion like Islam? Either it is killing all Muslims (genocide), or ending it through criticism and making people aware of it's evils. There is, unfortunately, no other solution possible. 

 

Let me put what i think. The term "Secularism" as I mentioned has inherent issue which is "freedom to propogate your religion".And today when so called Western democracies say term "Secularism" they have already Gamed the System of "Secularism" where they know very well that end result is always convert in "Christinity" or "Islam". Now, Common sense of yours will say spread of "Christinity" is fine but what is interest in  spreading "Islam"?

 

Reason is spreading the two religion makes it easier for the "Christian West" to control the "Rest".  Still dont agree with me, See how far behind the "Islamic" world is compared to West vis a vis any other ideology.

 

Now , if you cant find answer to what could be alternative to Secularism or think there is no alternative to Secularism, think again? How come thousands of belief Systems survived in India or world before Islam/Christinity came into existence? Your example of Budhism is very limited in terms of scope. Just look at Hindus (Buddhist, Jains Sikhs included). Billions live together. They worship Shiva, but had no issue worshipping Hanuman or Ram, or Vishnu or Saraswati or lashmi or River Ganga or Cow or Pipal tree or Ganesha. Infact every village has and had something sacred.

 

Art of coexistence was mastered by Hindus( People from Afghanistan to Indonasia abould half of world population). Even Islam and Christinity survived in India, Gurus, Saint, Peer,Seers and Babas and their followers survived. However, I firmly believe that Hinduism, which mainly also art of living a life following indivials definition of "Dhrama (righteos virtue)" and "karma (deed) "under various "Pantha (Belief System)" is under threat and "Secularism" is currently culprit.

 

For example, Where you get what is indivisual "Dharma" what should be "individuals Karma" irrespective of "Pantha(belief System)", Start with Story of Ram, Read in details like how a brother to behave (Character of Bharat and Laksman) and that tells you art of behaving like younger brother. Read details of war between Ram and Ravan (tells you details of why and how to conduct a war). Read character of Ravan (tells you detail of how you can veer into wrong despite being highly religious and educated).

Finally, You wont find any Hindu (sanghis included) saying , we want a Shankar Raj, Krishna Raj, Dhram Raj Yudhisthir Raaj, They all are seeking Ram Raaj. Try understanding that Ram Raj which Hindus (in entirety) seek before throwing modern terns like , Democracy, Rightwing,Left, Atiesm, Hindutva, Sanghis, Secularism, Humanity.

 

Wisdom is there in Bharat in terms of Mahabharat, Ramayan and other epics in bvarious languages. You dont need Veda and Purana or Manusmriti and what not. Its very simply explained to common man what is his Dharma if he has common sense

 

Edited January 13, 2025 by mishra

[Muloghonto]

2 hours ago, Alam_dar said:

 

Everyone agreed on the issue of Pakistani grooming gangs.

As for the other matter, it wasn't me who initiated the conversation about Hindu superiority. It was your friend who made claims about Hindus being superior and the rest of humanity being inferior. I only responded to shed light on the truth after those claims were made.

I didn't claim rest of humanity is inferior, lying libbu. I said western liberals and leftists are inferior to Hindus and ALL asian pagans who constitute more than half the planets population. 

Typical leftist lying tendencies exposed yet again but that's what u get for following ideology of a lying deadbeat white daddy Marx. Followers of inferior ideology as stats show. 

[mishra]

33 minutes ago, Muloghonto said:

I didn't claim rest of humanity is inferior, lying libbu. I said western liberals and leftists are inferior to Hindus and ALL asian pagans who constitute more than half the planets population. 

Typical leftist lying tendencies exposed yet again but that's what u get for following ideology of a lying deadbeat white daddy Marx. Followers of inferior ideology as stats show. 

Sumati Kumati Sabake Ur rahahein! Accept it and moove on

 

[Muloghonto]

1 hour ago, mishra said:

Let me put what i think. The term "Secularism" as I mentioned has inherent issue which is "freedom to propogate your religion".And today when so called Western democracies say term "Secularism" they have already Gamed the System of "Secularism" where they know very well that end result is always convert in "Christinity" or "Islam". Now, Common sense of yours will say spread of "Christinity" is fine but what is interest in  spreading "Islam"?

 

Reason is spreading the two religion makes it easier for the "Christian West" to control the "Rest".  Still dont agree with me, See how far behind the "Islamic" world is compared to West vis a vis any other ideology.

 

Now , if you cant find answer to what could be alternative to Secularism or think there is no alternative to Secularism, think again? How come thousands of belief Systems survived in India or world before Islam/Christinity came into existence? Your example of Budhism is very limited in terms of scope. Just look at Hindus (Buddhist, Jains Sikhs included). Billions live together. They worship Shiva, but had no issue worshipping Hanuman or Ram, or Vishnu or Saraswati or lashmi or River Ganga or Cow or Pipal tree or Ganesha. Infact every village has and had something sacred.

 

Art of coexistence was mastered by Hindus( People from Afghanistan to Indonasia abould half of world population). Even Islam and Christinity survived in India, Gurus, Saint, Peer,Seers and Babas and their followers survived. However, I firmly believe that Hinduism, which mainly also art of living a life following indivials definition of "Dhrama (righteos virtue)" and "karma (deed) "under various "Pantha (Belief System)" is under threat and "Secularism" is currently culprit.

 

For example, Where you get what is indivisual "Dharma" what should be "individuals Karma" irrespective of "Pantha(belief System)", Start with Story of Ram, Read in details like how a brother to behave (Character of Bharat and Laksman) and that tells you art of behaving like younger brother. Read details of war between Ram and Ravan (tells you details of why and how to conduct a war). Read character of Ravan (tells you detail of how you can veer into wrong despite being highly religious and educated).

Finally, You wont find any Hindu (sanghis included) saying , we want a Shankar Raj, Krishna Raj, Dhram Raj Yudhisthir Raaj, They all are seeking Ram Raaj. Try understanding that Ram Raj which Hindus (in entirety) seek before throwing modern terns like , Democracy, Rightwing,Left, Atiesm, Hindutva, Sanghis, Secularism, Humanity.

 

Wisdom is there in Bharat in terms of Mahabharat, Ramayan and other epics in bvarious languages. You dont need Veda and Purana or Manusmriti and what not. Its very simply explained to common man what is his Dharma if he has common sense

 

Hindu Sanghis are fundamentally secularist liberals, since hinduvtas official position is anti caste and pro paganism. We support fellow pagan faiths like Buddhism, Jainism, Sikhism, donyi polo. 

We even do Ghar wapasi conversions back to Sikhism or Buddhism or sanmahism  for those who were rice bagged. 

Last I checked, you can't be a supremacist organization when you literally support those who are not your own ideology. 

 

Libbus are just butthurt that asian paganism is fundamentally liberal and secular with separation of church and state is why we had kings switch religions with no issues while inferior westerners couldn't even change sect within same religion without civil war and they needed to invent liberalism to make it work for the inferior barbarian western religions 

Edited January 13, 2025 by Muloghonto

[coffee_rules]

2 hours ago, Alam_dar said:

The example of Buddha is in front of us, who criticized the Hindu religion peacefully, and departed from it. Or the reverse, where Buddhists converted to Hinduism. 

 

2 hours ago, Alam_dar said:

In short, secularism and human rights are sacred for me. That is why I never defended atheism, but I cannot tolerate attacks on secularism by right wingers. 

 

I am not a Buddhist, but I consider Buddha to be my inspiration. I am not a Hindu, but Gandhi's secular views impress me.

You claim to be respectful ,of Hindusim, but your posts are filled with fallacies, unsound arguments, paragraphs copied and pasted from distorted commentaries about Vedas/Hindusim.  Your idea of Buddhism/Buddha is highly distorted as it was distorted by western indologists in the 17th century. He never revolted again Vedas, rituals, varnashram dharma, but he interpreted what was ideas from upanishads / vedanta. He never intended to create a new religion away from Sanatana dharma. His idea of living was to give up all desires (even Bhakti) and live as Bhikshu. He never encouraged women to join his camp/followers so some of boudhakavyas have a lot of bad things to say about women (but the econtext was to create asceticism among his disciples. He was very proud to be a Kshatriya by birth and many texts say who is more equal than others . You should read what contempraries/later year sanskrit commentators wrote about his teachings. The way Vedas were disorted over years, even Buddhism that spread in Eastern Asia was also distorted away from original source. He was just a inspriration and they interpreted it in their own way and Westerners created a new eligion out of what was a sect/pant of sanatana dharma. 

 

Hindu philosophy is not just about casteism/jaathipratha/manusmriti. Manusmriti was codified by British as Hindu law more than any kings of medieval/gupta period (golden age of India). So, your arguments about Hindusim is fall false. 

[Alam_dar]

3 hours ago, mishra said:

Let me put what i think. The term "Secularism" as I mentioned has inherent issue which is "freedom to propogate your religion".And today when so called Western democracies say term "Secularism" they have already Gamed the System of "Secularism" where they know very well that end result is always convert in "Christinity" or "Islam". Now, Common sense of yours will say spread of "Christinity" is fine but what is interest in  spreading "Islam"?

 

I invite you to please come to Europe? Today, at least in Europe, there is no forceful spread of Christianity. Actually, Christianity is automatically dying. All religions are surviving completely peacefully here under liberal secularism.  

And secular West is not 100% free of human mistakes. They have allowed Islam and Muslims to enter Europe, but they don't CRITICIZE Islam in the name of RESPECTING all religions. But this was a fatal mistake. Islam or any other religion/ideology don't deserve any such respect which ends criticism. 

As I stated earlier, either to kill all Muslims who live here, or to start criticizing Islam directly. There is no other solution possible, which could bring reformation in the Muslim communities in Europe. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Alam_dar]

3 hours ago, Muloghonto said:

They have historical connection to their own asian pagan religions, retard. 

Most of them are Buddhist, taoists and therefore prove my point that asian paganism is superior in outcome to western leftism or liberalism in direct competition. Hindus are just subset of superior asian pagans to inferior western liberals. 

 

This is again dirty tactics. Taoism, Buddhism, Zoroastrians etc. have nothing to do with Hindu paganism or Vedic Hindu society or system. 

 

Actually, gods played almost no role in Taoism and Buddhism. Both of them are much closer to modern atheism/agnosticism than Hindu paganism. 

 

And White religious racists also come up with the same superiority claims where their Christian religion has the best morals and moral stories.

 

Jews also come up with superiority claims that they won the record Nobel Prizes and neither Hindus nor anyone else is close to them. 

 

The US religious right wing also come up with the same superiority claims for making their country the best in the world through excellence in every sector. 

 

Islamic Iran and Islamic Turkey also comes up with their claims of Islamic superiority, as they are far ahead of India per capita in scientific output. 

 

[coffee_rules]

13 minutes ago, Alam_dar said:

 

I invite you to please come to Europe? Today, at least in Europe, there is no forceful spread of Christianity. Actually, Christianity is automatically dying. All religions are surviving completely peacefully here under liberal secularism.  

And secular West is not 100% free of human mistakes. They have allowed Islam and Muslims to enter Europe, but they don't CRITICIZE Islam in the name of RESPECTING all religions. But this was a fatal mistake. Islam or any other religion/ideology don't deserve any such respect which ends criticism. 

As I stated earlier, either to kill all Muslims who live here, or to start criticizing Islam directly. There is no other solution possible, which could bring reformation in the Muslim communities in Europe. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Don't go by trending news or what popular culture is shown on movies and TV. Europe will never give up it nations built on the basis of Christianity, ask the powers who control the state. EU and USA funs the most missionaries in India and Asia. Where do you think all the money comes from? RW parties are coming back to power in the most EU counties and Poland has returned to become a RW conservative christian nation. Meanwhile Atheists like you live in la-la land reading Internet and Reddit.

[coffee_rules]

19 minutes ago, Alam_dar said:

 

This is again dirty tactics. Taoism, Buddhism, Zoroastrians etc. have nothing to do with Hindu paganism or Vedic Hindu society or system. 

 

Actually, gods played almost no role in Taoism and Buddhism. Both of them are much closer to modern atheism/agnosticism than Hindu paganism. 

 

And White religious racists also come up with the same superiority claims where their Christian religion has the best morals and moral stories.

 

Jews also come up with superiority claims that they won the record Nobel Prizes and neither Hindus nor anyone else is close to them. 

 

The US religious right wing also come up with the same superiority claims for making their country the best in the world through excellence in every sector. 

 

Islamic Iran and Islamic Turkey also comes up with their claims of Islamic superiority, as they are far ahead of India per capita in scientific output. 

 

Do you know what is Avesta  and how it is inspired by many Vedic gods and names?

 

Persians are believed to be the one of the communities who were defeated in the war described in Rigveda and moved towards the west of Saraswathi river.

 

Read and weep

Edited January 13, 2025 by coffee_rules

[Muloghonto]

14 minutes ago, Alam_dar said:

 

This is again dirty tactics. Taoism, Buddhism, Zoroastrians etc. have nothing to do with Hindu paganism or Vedic Hindu society or system. 

But my claim isn't that ONLY Hindus are superior to western liberals and leftists, it's ALL ASIAN PAGANS are superior to western liberals and leftists. So how is it dirty Tactics when it's my sole claim from day1 ?? 

14 minutes ago, Alam_dar said:

Actually, gods played almost no role in Taoism and Buddhism. Both of them are much closer to modern atheism/agnosticism than Hindu paganism. 

But they are still religions and eastern ideologies and not western trash liberalism. 

14 minutes ago, Alam_dar said:

 

And White religious racists also come up with the same superiority claims where their Christian religion has the best morals and moral stories.

Except they don't have data supporting them, we do: again. Asian pagans are superior to western liberals in the west in each and every metric known to man. This is cotable via census and police data.

14 minutes ago, Alam_dar said:

 

Jews also come up with superiority claims that they won the record Nobel Prizes and neither Hindus nor anyone else is close to them. 

 

The US religious right wing also come up with the same superiority claims for making their country the best in the world through excellence in every sector. 

 

Islamic Iran and Islamic Turkey also comes up with their claims of Islamic superiority, as they are far ahead of India per capita in scientific output. 

 

Turkey and Iran Combined produce less than 10% of patents India does and therefore Also behind in per capita output as their Combined population is more than 10% of India. 

Math isn't your strong suite is it ?? 

[Alam_dar]

1 hour ago, coffee_rules said:

Your idea of Buddhism/Buddha is highly distorted as it was distorted by western indologists in the 17th century. He never revolted again Vedas, rituals, varnashram dharma, but he interpreted what was ideas from upanishads / vedanta. He never intended to create a new religion away from Sanatana dharma. His idea of living was to give up all desires (even Bhakti) and live as Bhikshu.

 

 

Buddha does not have the support of modern science, which explains alternative facts how the universe came into being and humans were evolved. Thus, freethinkers like Buddha had no such support to openly rebel against religious gods without solid proofs. 

Therefore, Buddha's rebellion was limited against Vedic rituals and many other evils in Hindu society. 

 

Buddha indeed strongly opposed the rigid caste system (varna system) that divided society into hierarchical groups, determining one's social status, occupation, and rights based on birth. And Buddha also indeed criticized the excessive emphasis on rituals, sacrifices, and the priestly dominance of Brahmins in religious life.

 

That was the START of religious evolution. And it ended into an entirely separate Buddhist religion, which was totally free of Vedas. 

 

1 hour ago, coffee_rules said:

even Buddhism that spread in Eastern Asia was also distorted away from original source

 

Please forget about Buddhism in Eastern Asia and consider the case of Buddhism in India itself, where it emerged as a completely distinct religion within the same cultural framework. You may call it a distortion, but we see it as the evolution of religion.

The same applies to Jainism. Jains do not accept the Vedas or other Hindu scriptures like the Upanishads, Puranas, and the Bhagavad Gita as authoritative. Jainism fundamentally rejects the notion that the Vedas are divinely revealed and actively critiques Vedic traditions, particularly rituals involving animal sacrifices, as they conflict with the Jain principle of non-violence (Ahimsa). Instead, Jains have their own set of canonical texts known as the Agamas.

Similarly, Sikhism evolved as an entirely distinct religion, independent of the Vedas or Hindu gods, with its own unique spiritual and social framework.

As for the caste system, it predates British rule. Smritis and other Hindu religious texts that codified the caste system existed centuries before the arrival of the British or even the Muslims. These laws and customs were deeply ingrained in Hindu society. This is why Buddha, long before the British or Muslims, criticized the caste system based on birth, advocating for a more egalitarian society.

[Muloghonto]

31 minutes ago, Alam_dar said:

 

I invite you to please come to Europe? Today, at least in Europe, there is no forceful spread of Christianity. Actually, Christianity is automatically dying. All religions are surviving completely peacefully here under liberal secularism.  

And secular West is not 100% free of human mistakes. They have allowed Islam and Muslims to enter Europe, but they don't CRITICIZE Islam in the name of RESPECTING all religions. But this was a fatal mistake. Islam or any other religion/ideology don't deserve any such respect which ends criticism. 

As I stated earlier, either to kill all Muslims who live here, or to start criticizing Islam directly. There is no other solution possible, which could bring reformation in the Muslim communities in Europe. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ah yes Europe. The continent that is 40 times worse per capita at rape than Asia while being 10% of species homo sapiens and Asia being nearly 60%.

 

Europe- the continent that exonerated 10 times more perps than Asia and a continent that deliberately puts orphan kids with known pedos as adoptive parents and where child rapists don't get jail term but lady who insults convicted child rapist goes to jail.

 

Such a model continent- if you aspire to be unjust misogynistic eurotrash. 

Afterall euros are the rapiest continent in recorded history and especially the last 500 years, so it makes sense why Europe is still the world leader continent at rape per capita. 

[Alam_dar]

4 hours ago, Muloghonto said:

Western framework is used because of British colonization. Hindu framework already wasn't in use by then so there is nothing to reject. This is typical liberal disingeneousness. 

 

 

This is again a lame excuse. Nobody stopped Hindus to adopt the Vedic framework or laws after the British people left India. But instead of going to Vedic rulings, Indian women accepted the modern secular and liberal values and denied accepting the so-called superior Vedic system. 

 

 

[Muloghonto]

Just now, Alam_dar said:

 

This is again a lame excuse. Nobody stopped Hindus to adopt the Vedic framework or laws after the British people left India. But instead of going to Vedic rulings, Indian women accepted the modern secular and liberal values and denied accepting the so-called superior Vedic system. 

 

 

The mughals most definitely stopped us from adopting Hindu laws and were pretty much immediately replaced by the British. So no scope of adopting Hindu law. Ergo you lied when you said that Hindu women rejected Hindu law, since Hindu law wasn't an established choice in the first place. 

[Alam_dar]

17 minutes ago, Muloghonto said:

Turkey and Iran Combined produce less than 10% of patents India does and therefore Also behind in per capita output as their Combined population is more than 10% of India. 

 

I quoted scientific output, and you jumped to patents. 

Actually, the supposedly inferior West is far ahead of India in per capita patents, too. In the fiscal year 2022-2023, India filed 80,211 patent applications, while in contrast, the United States Patent and Trademark Office (USPTO) received 3,552,100 patent filings in 2022. And the supposedly inferior Germany filed 58,656 patent applications (far ahead than India per capita). 

 

[Alam_dar]

12 minutes ago, Muloghonto said:

The mughals most definitely stopped us from adopting Hindu laws and were pretty much immediately replaced by the British. So no scope of adopting Hindu law. Ergo you lied when you said that Hindu women rejected Hindu law, since Hindu law wasn't an established choice in the first place. 

 

It is only a continuation of your dirty tactics, as Mughals and Britishers are long gone and none stopped Hindu women from adapting the Vedic laws. 

 

Actually, the whole Eastern Asia abandoned their old systems, and they moved to far superior modern Western secular law system. 

 

27 minutes ago, Muloghonto said:

But my claim isn't that ONLY Hindus are superior to western liberals and leftists, it's ALL ASIAN PAGANS are superior to western liberals and leftists. So how is it dirty Tactics when it's my sole claim from day1 ?? 

 

Your theory of superiority of Eastern Asian Paganism is a nonsense. 

All Eastern Asian countries are leaving their paganism and religious systems and religious laws and moving towards the superior Western laws and secular system. 

 

[coffee_rules]

7 minutes ago, Alam_dar said:

 

 

Buddha does not have the support of modern science, which explains alternative facts how the universe came into being and humans were evolved. Thus, freethinkers like Buddha had no such support to openly rebel against religious gods without solid proofs. 

Therefore, Buddha's rebellion was limited against Vedic rituals and many other evils in Hindu society. 

 

No such thing as rebellion. Many rishis have tried to reform dharma through texts in Vedanta and upanishads even before Gautama Buddha. All the rebellion nonsense is a narrative from western wrong interpretation of Buddha.

 

7 minutes ago, Alam_dar said:

Buddha indeed strongly opposed the rigid caste system (varna system) that divided society into hierarchical groups, determining one's social status, occupation, and rights based on birth. And Buddha also indeed criticized the excessive emphasis on rituals, sacrifices, and the priestly dominance of Brahmins in religious life.

 

Yeah he opposed rituals and why do Buddhists in SL, Tibet and east Asia have so many rituals ? You are wrongly educated. At least argue with well established facts.  Even Jain’s have their own practices and rituals. This Buddhist atheism is a Neo-Buddhism that Ambedkarites follow inspired by such distorted interpretations from the west. 

7 minutes ago, Alam_dar said:

That was the START of religious evolution. And it ended into an entirely separate Buddhist religion, which was totally free of Vedas. 

 

No such thing as rebellion or religion . It’s all in the minds of westerners who think Buddhism is different from Sanatana dharma which is a big umbrella for various philosophies . 

 

7 minutes ago, Alam_dar said:

 

 

Please forget about Buddhism in Eastern Asia and consider the case of Buddhism in India itself, where it emerged as a completely distinct religion within the same cultural framework. You may call it a distortion, but we see it as the evolution of religion.

Who the fcuk is we? Western distorted trained dogs like you?

 

7 minutes ago, Alam_dar said:

The same applies to Jainism. Jains do not accept the Vedas or other Hindu scriptures like the Upanishads, Puranas, and the Bhagavad Gita as authoritative. Jainism fundamentally rejects the notion that the Vedas are divinely revealed and actively critiques Vedic traditions, particularly rituals involving animal sacrifices, as they conflict with the Jain principle of non-violence (Ahimsa). Instead, Jains have their own set of canonical texts known as the Agamas.

Similarly, Sikhism evolved as an entirely distinct religion, independent of the Vedas or Hindu gods, with its own unique spiritual and social framework.

As for the caste system, it predates British rule. Smritis and other Hindu religious texts that codified the caste system existed centuries before the arrival of the British or even the Muslims. These laws and customs were deeply ingrained in Hindu society. This is why Buddha, long before the British or Muslims, criticized the caste system based on birth, advocating for a more egalitarian society.

Dude, Every sentence reeks of ignorance coming from a troll. Have you lived in India or know Jains? Do you know how many Jains visit Hindu temples? Most of the Archanas and sevas in places like Tirupathi or ther sacred places of Hindus are from Jains. Do you know they believe themselves as sanatanis? Ask any Jain walking on the road in India or listen to famous people like Minakshi Jain (historian) or the lawyer who is fighting cases like Gyanwapi or Sambhal mosques - Vishnu Shankar Jain!  Jains have parallel texts of Bharata and teerthankaras who are worshipped like Vedic gods. They were all interpreted versions of various upanishads or Vedanta. Vedas are not just about rituals and varnas. It has a lot of introspection of who we are and where we come from. About inclusivity and believing in multiple paths to truth. Stop reading western translated texts of Sanskrit . 

[Alam_dar]

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cedn031d563o

https://www.independent.co.uk/asia/india/kerala-sexual-assault-posco-arrest-latest-b2678460.html

Indian teenager accuses 64 men of sexually abusing her since she was 13

India is still far behind Europe when it comes to giving protection to women, reporting, and justice system. Don't let your supremacist behaviour deceive you. 

 

[Muloghonto]

22 minutes ago, Alam_dar said:

 

I quoted scientific output, and you jumped to patents. 

Actually, the supposedly inferior West is far ahead of India in per capita patents, too. In the fiscal year 2022-2023, India filed 80,211 patent applications, while in contrast, the United States Patent and Trademark Office (USPTO) received 3,552,100 patent filings in 2022. And the supposedly inferior Germany filed 58,656 patent applications (far ahead than India per capita). 

 

Scientific output is measured by patent filings, bub. 

Obviously brain drain west who got rixh off of looting India is gonna be ahead. But Indians are ahead of westerners in the west at everything. Along with pagan asians. Coz western ideologies are objectively inferior to asian pagan ones.