Vicks57 Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 (edited) Virat Kohli has been fishing outside off stump for a long time. PDogg has explained the reason for this weakness and how his trigger movement before playing the ball has contributed to this flaw. Timestamp: 5:00 to 9:00. Do you think Kohli can rectify his trigger movement and be successful at this age? Or Should Kohli call it quits? I think he should retire soon. Share your opinion guys. @vvvslaxman @Lord @Chaos @zen @coffee_rules @IndianRenegade @Laaloo @Number @Vijy Discussion is open for all and not just limited to the people tagged. Edited January 5 by Vicks57 rollingstoned, velu, zen and 3 others 1 5 Link to comment
The Dark Horse Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 7 minutes ago, Vicks57 said: Virat Kohli has been fishing outside off stump for a long time. PDogg has explained the reason for this weakness and how his trigger movement before playing the ball has contributed to this flaw. Timestamp: 5:00 to 9:00. Do you think Kohli can rectify his trigger movement and be successful at this age? Or Should Kohli call it quits? I think he should retire soon. Share your opinion guys. @vvvslaxman @Lord @Chaos @zen @coffee_rules @IndianRenegade @Laaloo @Number Discussion is open for all and not just limited to the people tagged. He can rectify it, provided he's willing to admit there is an issue and wants to work on it professionally. straighttalk 1 Link to comment
Vicks57 Posted January 5 Author Share Posted January 5 Just now, The Dark Horse said: He can rectify it, provided he's willing to admit there is an issue and wants to work on it professionally. Yeah first he has to acknowledge it. Pdogg has shared the video and analysis to the analysts in the team. At this age, will he make changes? Or his ego is too big to make changes at this stage of his career. Who knows? Better to retire and give the opportunity to youngsters. BacktoCricaddict 1 Link to comment
Lord Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 10 minutes ago, Vicks57 said: Yeah first he has to acknowledge it. Pdogg has shared the video and analysis to the analysts in the team. At this age, will he make changes? Or his ego is too big to make changes at this stage of his career. Who knows? Better to retire and give the opportunity to youngsters. The issue is there since 5 years. If he cared it would have been rectified by now. Vicks57, Chakdephatte and BacktoCricaddict 1 2 Link to comment
Lord Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 This is ChatGPT's analysis. Its not really that complicated. He just not bothered Quote To counter his challenges with off-stump deliveries, Virat Kohli could consider the following strategies: Improve Technique: Kohli should focus on refining his technique against balls outside the off-stump. This could involve working on his footwork to better judge and move towards the line of the ball. Practicing drills that specifically target this area can help, like shadow batting with a focus on moving across to cover the line of the ball rather than lunging forward. Play Late: Playing the ball later can help in dealing with the swing and movement. By delaying the shot, Kohli can better read the movement of the ball after it pitches. This approach reduces the risk of playing too early and getting an edge or missing the ball completely. Expand Shot Repertoire: Adding shots like the backfoot punch or cut shot could be beneficial. According to some fans and analysts, Kohli's reluctance or inability to play these shots has been a weakness. Practicing these shots in the nets, especially against balls in the corridor of uncertainty, could provide him with more scoring options and better defensive techniques. Mental Preparation: Kohli needs to mentally prepare for these deliveries. Understanding the bowler's strategy and anticipating when they might bowl outside off-stump can help him stay one step ahead. Mental drills or visualization techniques could be employed to enhance focus and decision-making under pressure. County Cricket: As suggested in some discussions, playing county cricket could provide Kohli with valuable experience in varied conditions, especially against swing and seam which are prevalent in England. This exposure might help him adapt better to off-stump deliveries in international cricket. Coaching and Feedback: Working closely with a coach or using video analysis to review his dismissals against these deliveries could offer insights into what's going wrong. Specific feedback on his stance, grip, and shot selection could lead to improvements. wanted_desi, MK55 and BlueBee 2 1 Link to comment
Number Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 What he says is right. One point I want to add is When does a batsman blindly move to front foot ? When he has no ability to judge the length (where will the ball pitch) from the hands. Some batsmen are gifted with great eyes which judge the length very early from the release. He was never a great of judge of length but he made up for it with fast hand movement in his prime years. He has been plonking his front foot in tests for very long time now. Link to comment
R!TTER Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 It's more of a mental thing at this point, you can't get out that way 100x & not look to cull the shot over this long period of time Many of you are forgetting Clouderson/Malfoy made him a bunny like that probably 4-6 times back in 2014 tour, so this flaw is hardly new although it's an issue for all batters! Adamant 1 Link to comment
rtmohanlal Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 he needs to just watch his videos of past test match performances especially '100 hitting' videos , thoroughly watch and analyse those , then trace out his flaws, then work hard on those If he does it ,with the fitness levels he posses , he can perform some where near his peak level for at least 2 years moving forward Link to comment
R!TTER Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 2 minutes ago, rtmohanlal said: he can perform some where near his peak level for at least 2 years You really think so 2 minutes ago, rtmohanlal said: past test match performances especially '100 hitting' videos , Maybe you should relook some of those 100's yourself, he had a lot of dropped catches back then, especially in Eng. Now you could argue his luck ran him out Link to comment
Vijy Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 3 hours ago, Vicks57 said: Virat Kohli has been fishing outside off stump for a long time. PDogg has explained the reason for this weakness and how his trigger movement before playing the ball has contributed to this flaw. Timestamp: 5:00 to 9:00. Do you think Kohli can rectify his trigger movement and be successful at this age? Or Should Kohli call it quits? I think he should retire soon. Share your opinion guys. @vvvslaxman @Lord @Chaos @zen @coffee_rules @IndianRenegade @Laaloo @Number @Vijy Discussion is open for all and not just limited to the people tagged. he should have retired a few years ago. nevada and Vicks57 1 1 Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 3 hours ago, Vicks57 said: Yeah first he has to acknowledge it. Pdogg has shared the video and analysis to the analysts in the team. At this age, will he make changes? Or his ego is too big to make changes at this stage of his career. Who knows? Better to retire and give the opportunity to youngsters. This is why SMith will finish as a monumentally superior batsman of this era. Look at the amount of technical changes he makes each innings. It probably is not suitable for everyone. He has found his own technique and made sure it worked. Standing outside the crease is not a technical adjustment. Vijy, rollingstoned and Vicks57 3 Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 4 hours ago, Lord said: 2027 world cup is a different format. What is his status on Test cricket Link to comment
BacktoCricaddict Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 8 hours ago, Vicks57 said: Better to retire and give the opportunity to youngsters. The truth Vicks57 1 Link to comment
Ultimate_Game Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 Kohli's old and his reflexes are gone. No amount of "fixing" his technique or changes to trigger movement is gonna make an iota of a difference. Kohli's old and done. Period. nevada, SachDan and BacktoCricaddict 3 Link to comment
clownkiller Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 I haven't seen kohli playing many back foot punches like Williamson or Root Play. kohli was always been a front foot player with a strong bottom hand and usually, when these kind of players reach a certain age where body start becoming slow they have huge downfall performance-wise. no doubt he was a legendry player at his peak but one thing that keeps coming to my mind is that he had many good players playing around him during Dhoni era...good openers who laid a solid foundation and an atg player in ms dhoni who finished games along with yuvi. as many people have pointed out he never performed in big icc matches, especially eliminators. got a good amount of fame and love cuz he was beating the **** of Pakistan always, who were always underdogs. Those Pakistani teams were below-average teams if compared to who Sachin had to play against from Pakistan. Sachin was playing vs only one new ball and that is a whole different story. only a player like Sachin or someone like Williamson with strong technique can overcome this age factor. but a player like Kohli, who needs his body and reflexes on his side they can over-come this issue. he trying to live long enough to become a villain and its actually happening unfortunately Link to comment
mikeypbadana86 Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 1 hour ago, clownkiller said: I haven't seen kohli playing many back foot punches like Williamson or Root Play. kohli was always been a front foot player with a strong bottom hand and usually, when these kind of players reach a certain age where body start becoming slow they have huge downfall performance-wise. no doubt he was a legendry player at his peak but one thing that keeps coming to my mind is that he had many good players playing around him during Dhoni era...good openers who laid a solid foundation and an atg player in ms dhoni who finished games along with yuvi. as many people have pointed out he never performed in big icc matches, especially eliminators. got a good amount of fame and love cuz he was beating the **** of Pakistan always, who were always underdogs. Those Pakistani teams were below-average teams if compared to who Sachin had to play against from Pakistan. Sachin was playing vs only one new ball and that is a whole different story. only a player like Sachin or someone like Williamson with strong technique can overcome this age factor. but a player like Kohli, who needs his body and reflexes on his side they can over-come this issue. he trying to live long enough to become a villain and its actually happening unfortunately I have a different take on this. After 100 in Perth, Kohli tried to impose and dominate Australia like his old self . He was very arrogant to play cover drives and get dismissed. The dressing room atmosphere of Gambhir trying to sack players or make players accountable after few low scores does not help either. More than technique , it's the mind space which undone kohli (as confirmed by ABD in his YouTube channel) with Australian crowd/media/Indian cricket experts going against him. He tried to shut every one but could not keep up with the external pressures nor his inner cobwebs. If you check his t20 stats, he had memorable knock out performances singlehandedly which negates your theory of Kohli ever playing an impactful innings in ICC knock outs. INzamam of pak/Aravinda desilvaIa of SL/Yuvraj/Dhoni only had one knock out innings out of multiple world cups. Compare this with kohli who is the Man of the series in 2014 t20 World Cup, 2016 t20 World Cup, 2023 ODI World Cup. do not recall sachin ever playing in any knock out in ODI world cups in a winning cause(barring the semis in 2011 World Cup in which he had 4 drops). Do not take any thing away from his contributions since others around him were good. Is wasim alarm a lesser legend since he had the support of greats like waqar/shoiab author ? I think, he will come back strongly. His technique may not be great but his hunger and work ethic is top notch. Come champions trophy, I am expecting to see a resurgence of Kohli. I think, this may be second come back loading after his famous 2022 t20 back to back sixes comeback In Australia. Ultimate_Game and New guy 1 1 Link to comment
Vijy Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 5 hours ago, Ultimate_Game said: Kohli's old and his reflexes are gone. No amount of "fixing" his technique or changes to trigger movement is gonna make an iota of a difference. Kohli's old and done. Period. comes also from being a potential age-fudger just going his reflexes and looks Ultimate_Game 1 Link to comment
Ultimate_Game Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 12 hours ago, Vijy said: comes also from being a potential age-fudger just going his reflexes and looks No doubt his age is a bit inflated just like his batting average. His performances started dropping off when in 2019-20 when he was supposedly 31 and was in his prime. But the way he dropped off the cliff he was more in mid 30s at the time and his actual age right now is closer to 40. Link to comment
sensible-indian Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 On 1/6/2025 at 5:21 AM, mikeypbadana86 said: I have a different take on this. After 100 in Perth, Kohli tried to impose and dominate Australia like his old self . He was very arrogant to play cover drives and get dismissed. The dressing room atmosphere of Gambhir trying to sack players or make players accountable after few low scores does not help either. More than technique , it's the mind space which undone kohli (as confirmed by ABD in his YouTube channel) with Australian crowd/media/Indian cricket experts going against him. He tried to shut every one but could not keep up with the external pressures nor his inner cobwebs. If you check his t20 stats, he had memorable knock out performances singlehandedly which negates your theory of Kohli ever playing an impactful innings in ICC knock outs. INzamam of pak/Aravinda desilvaIa of SL/Yuvraj/Dhoni only had one knock out innings out of multiple world cups. Compare this with kohli who is the Man of the series in 2014 t20 World Cup, 2016 t20 World Cup, 2023 ODI World Cup. do not recall sachin ever playing in any knock out in ODI world cups in a winning cause(barring the semis in 2011 World Cup in which he had 4 drops). Do not take any thing away from his contributions since others around him were good. Is wasim alarm a lesser legend since he had the support of greats like waqar/shoiab author ? I think, he will come back strongly. His technique may not be great but his hunger and work ethic is top notch. Come champions trophy, I am expecting to see a resurgence of Kohli. I think, this may be second come back loading after his famous 2022 t20 back to back sixes comeback In Australia. Lol Link to comment
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