Fast Bowlers for Indian Test Cricket

[Vicks57]

Indian Test team requires bowlers who are fit and can bowl 20 overs in each innings of a test match.

 

Based on the performance of pacers in BGT series and previous test matches.

 

Pacers:

 

Bumrah

Akashdeep

Prasidh Krishna

Mukesh Kumar

Siraj

 

Bumrah - GOAT pacer.

 

Akashdeep - good seem position. Bowls 133k to 138k. Thinking cricketer. Can set up batsmen. Economical. Was unlucky in BGT in the wicket department despite beating the bat so many times.

 

Prasidh Krishna - genuinely surprised. Thought he was a bum after the SA series. Struggles with the length early on. But once he figures out the length in a pitch, he is very good. Clearly can set up batsmen. Did not know he could do that. Need more opportunities in playing XI. His bounce is a huge plus.

 

Mukesh Kumar - all you need is eye test. Very tight in line and length. Pace is low 130s which is a negative. Very very economical. Has very good wicket taking ability as well. Look up his performances against Aus A. He should have planned in BGT ahead of Rana.

 

Siraj - Up and down pacer. Very inconsistent. Only good thing is he never gets injured and he has passion for the game. Will always be in the fifteen man squad of test cricket unless we find better bowlers.

 

Harshit Rana - Need to go back to the drawing board. Has youth and height on his side. Put him in India A and monitor his growth.

 

Arshdeep Singh - Very good white ball bowler. Has many tricks up his sleeve. I don't think he is fit enough to play test cricket. Making him play test cricket will cause injuries imo.

 

In SENA countries, I think we need 4 pacers + 1 spinner.

 

@Lord @Chaos @Vijy @Laaloo @Vickydev @coffee_rules @zen @vvvslaxman

 

Discussion is open for all and not limited to the people tagged.

 

 

Edited January 5 by Vicks57

[Suhaan]

Just now, Vicks57 said:

Nitish Rana - Need to go back to the drawing board. Has youth and height on his side. Put him in India A and monitor his growth.

 

Harshit

[Vicks57]

2 minutes ago, Suhaan said:

Harshit

 

Thanks updated it.

[singhvivek141]

3 minutes ago, Vicks57 said:

Indian Test team requires bowlers who are fit and can bowl 20 overs in each innings of a test match.

 

Based on the performance of pacers in BGT series and previous test matches.

 

Pacers:

 

Bumrah

Akashdeep

Prasidh Krishna

Mukesh Kumar

Siraj

 

Bumrah - GOAT pacer.

 

Akashdeep - good seem position. Bowls 133k to 138k. Thinking cricketer. Can set up batsmen. Economical. Was lucky in BGT in the wicket department despite beating the bat so many times.

 

Prasidh Krishna - genuinely surprised. Thought he was a bum after the SA series. Struggles with the length early on. But once he figures out the length in a pitch, he is very good. Clearly can set up batsmen. Did not know he could do that. Need more opportunities in playing XI. His bounce is a huge plus.

 

Mukesh Kumar - all you need is eye test. Very tight in line and length. Pace is low 130s which is a negative. Very very economical. Has very good wicket taking ability as well. Look up his performances against Aus A. He should have planned in BGT ahead of Nitish Rana.

 

Siraj - Up and down pacer. Very inconsistent. Only good thing is he never gets injured and he has passion for the game. Will always be in the fifteen man squad of test cricket unless we find better bowlers.

 

Nitish Rana - Need to go back to the drawing board. Has youth and height on his side. Put him in India A and monitor his growth.

 

Arshdeep Singh - Very good white ball bowler. Has many tricks up his sleeve. I don't think he is fit enough to play test cricket. Making him play test cricket will cause injuries imo.

 

Harshit Rana was harshly treated.

Just because Prasidh has few bad games, similarly Harshit had one bad game. But he has much higher ceiling.

 

Mukesh Kumar is trash.

[Vicks57]

1 minute ago, singhvivek141 said:

Harshit Rana was harshly treated.

Just because Prasidh has few bad games, similarly Harshit had one bad game. But he has much higher ceiling.

 

Mukesh Kumar is trash.

 

He has potential yes. He is 23, tall and has the physique. Has to lose some weight though.

 

He also bowls fast.

 

Need more control. Need more India A matches to get better in SENA conditions.

 

Mukesh simply has too much control over his line and length. We need him. He should make the fifteen man squad in atleast 2 of the three formats.

 

[singhvivek141]

3 minutes ago, Vicks57 said:

 

He has potential yes. He is 23, tall and has the physique. Has to lose some weight though.

 

He also bowls fast.

 

Need more control. Need more India A matches to get better in SENA conditions.

 

Mukesh simply has too much control over his line and length. We need him. He should make the fifteen man squad in atleast 2 of the three formats.

 

Harshit should have played few games before directly thrown in Australia. He was directly debuted and then came in contact with rampaging Travis Head who smashed everyone in that test, Harshit being inexperienced suffered the most. It was poor mgmt from BCCI.

 

For Mukesh, he is low tier version of Akashdeep, he will barely touch 130 (in his last test vs England he was bowling 125k). On top of it he can't bat and is an atrocious fielder, such unidimensional player definitely can't play Tests, plus is already 31 (in reality maybe even older).

 

Vaibhav Arora & Gurnoor Brar are better alternatives. Both are tall as well, Gurnoor is 6.4-6.5. Nishant Saranu is another one for the future as he is even taller than Gurnoor.

[Vicks57]

12 minutes ago, singhvivek141 said:

Harshit should have played few games before directly thrown in Australia. He was directly debuted and then came in contact with rampaging Travis Head who smashed everyone in that test, Harshit being inexperienced suffered the most. It was poor mgmt from BCCI.

 

For Mukesh, he is low tier version of Akashdeep, he will barely touch 130 (in his last test vs England he was bowling 125k). On top of it he can't bat and is an atrocious fielder, such unidimensional player definitely can't play Tests, plus is already 31 (in reality maybe even older).

 

Vaibhav Arora & Gurnoor Brar are better alternatives. Both are tall as well, Gurnoor is 6.4-6.5. Nishant Saranu is another one for the future as he is even taller than Gurnoor.

 

If you are a fast bowler, you need to debut in SENA conditions which are suitable for you.

 

Rana should get rid of the belly fat and need more control on the length.

 

Vaibhav Arora - I have only seen in IPL. Haven't seen much of Gurnoor. Have to look it up.

[Lord]

26 minutes ago, Vicks57 said:

 

He has potential yes. He is 23, tall and has the physique. Has to lose some weight though.

 

He also bowls fast.

 

Need more control. Need more India A matches to get better in SENA conditions.

 

Mukesh simply has too much control over his line and length. We need him. He should make the fifteen man squad in atleast 2 of the three formats.

 

 

We have many with such control at 125 kph. But it doesnt help. You either need pace or bounce.

 

At best he can be useful in England like Bhuvi.

[Vicks57]

Just now, Lord said:

 

We have many with such control at 125 kph. But it doesnt help. You either need pace or bounce.

 

At best he can be useful in England like Bhuvi.

 

Make use of him here and there like Bhuvi.

 

Siraj simply is not good enough to pick up wickets with the new ball.

[The Dark Horse]

38 minutes ago, Vicks57 said:

Indian Test team requires bowlers who are fit and can bowl 20 overs in each innings of a test match.

 

Based on the performance of pacers in BGT series and previous test matches.

 

Pacers:

 

Bumrah

Akashdeep

Prasidh Krishna

Mukesh Kumar

Siraj

 

Bumrah - GOAT pacer.

 

Akashdeep - good seem position. Bowls 133k to 138k. Thinking cricketer. Can set up batsmen. Economical. Was unlucky in BGT in the wicket department despite beating the bat so many times.

 

Prasidh Krishna - genuinely surprised. Thought he was a bum after the SA series. Struggles with the length early on. But once he figures out the length in a pitch, he is very good. Clearly can set up batsmen. Did not know he could do that. Need more opportunities in playing XI. His bounce is a huge plus.

 

Mukesh Kumar - all you need is eye test. Very tight in line and length. Pace is low 130s which is a negative. Very very economical. Has very good wicket taking ability as well. Look up his performances against Aus A. He should have planned in BGT ahead of Rana.

 

Siraj - Up and down pacer. Very inconsistent. Only good thing is he never gets injured and he has passion for the game. Will always be in the fifteen man squad of test cricket unless we find better bowlers.

 

Harshit Rana - Need to go back to the drawing board. Has youth and height on his side. Put him in India A and monitor his growth.

 

Arshdeep Singh - Very good white ball bowler. Has many tricks up his sleeve. I don't think he is fit enough to play test cricket. Making him play test cricket will cause injuries imo.

 

In SENA countries, I think we need 4 pacers + 1 spinner.

 

@Lord @Chaos @Vijy @Laaloo @Vickydev @coffee_rules @zen @vvvslaxman

 

Discussion is open for all and not limited to the people tagged.

 

 

Shivam Mavi can be added in this list. Also first class performance needs to be considered for test selection.

[Vickydev]

I like Simarjeet, think he has potential, can run in all day and quicker than Akashdeep

[Vicks57]

2 minutes ago, The Dark Horse said:

Shivam Mavi can be added in this list. Also first class performance needs to be considered for test selection.

 

Akashdeep came into the squad based on his first class record. I think it applies to Mukesh Kumar as well.

 

Disagree on Mavi. He was amazing in U19 world cup. His career hasn't turned out as expected. He does not bowl wicket taking balls at all.

[singhvivek141]

3 minutes ago, Vicks57 said:

 

If you are a fast bowler, you need to debut in SENA conditions which are suitable for you.

 

Rana should get rid of the belly fat and need more control on the length.

 

Vaibhav Arora - I have only seen in IPL. Haven't seen much of Gurnoor. Have to look it up.

Belly Fat and control is accepted.

But he did well in first test.

 

Second test was pink ball, which I don't think he played earlier, plus captain was Rohit Sharma. Even Bumrah & to a large extent Siraj also struggled despite having the experience of bowling with pink ball.

 

Harshit would have done well had he played one more test...but he was unfairly dropped after one failure and wasnt given a chance to redeem himself. He became a scapegoat to hide the inefficiencies of batters.

[singhvivek141]

7 minutes ago, The Dark Horse said:

Shivam Mavi can be added in this list. Also first class performance needs to be considered for test selection.

Mavi can swing the ball, is a very good fielder and handy with the bat.

But his height of 5.8 and pace of 130-135 kph he won't go anywhere.

At max a stop gap solution.

Edited January 5 by singhvivek141

[Vicks57]

2 minutes ago, singhvivek141 said:

Belly Fat and control is accepted.

But he did well in first test.

 

Second test was pink ball, which I don't think he played earlier, plus captain was Rohit Sharma. Even Bumrah & to a large extent Siraj also struggled despite having the experience of bowling with pink ball.

 

Harshit would have done well had he played one more test...but he was unfairly dropped after one failure and wasnt given a chance to redeem himself. He became a scapegoat to hide the inefficiencies of batters.

 

His first innings in first test was good. He was thrashed in the second innings. He was inconsistent in first test. Not good as you say.

 

His second innings stat: 14 overs 1 wicket 5.04 economy. Not good at all. Downright bad.

[Nikhil_cric]

We don't have the bowlers. Apart from Bumrah. 

[The Dark Horse]

8 minutes ago, singhvivek141 said:

Mavi can swing the ball, is a very good fielder and handy with the bat.

But his height of 5.8 and pace of 130-135 kph he won't go anywhere.

At max a stop gap solution.

He used to touch 140+ frequently if I'm not wrong. Has age on his side.

[MK55]

58 minutes ago, Vicks57 said:

Indian Test team requires bowlers who are fit and can bowl 20 overs in each innings of a test match.

 

Based on the performance of pacers in BGT series and previous test matches.

 

Pacers:

 

Bumrah

Akashdeep

Prasidh Krishna

Mukesh Kumar

Siraj

 

Bumrah - GOAT pacer.

 

Akashdeep - good seem position. Bowls 133k to 138k. Thinking cricketer. Can set up batsmen. Economical. Was unlucky in BGT in the wicket department despite beating the bat so many times.

 

Prasidh Krishna - genuinely surprised. Thought he was a bum after the SA series. Struggles with the length early on. But once he figures out the length in a pitch, he is very good. Clearly can set up batsmen. Did not know he could do that. Need more opportunities in playing XI. His bounce is a huge plus.

 

Mukesh Kumar - all you need is eye test. Very tight in line and length. Pace is low 130s which is a negative. Very very economical. Has very good wicket taking ability as well. Look up his performances against Aus A. He should have planned in BGT ahead of Rana.

 

Siraj - Up and down pacer. Very inconsistent. Only good thing is he never gets injured and he has passion for the game. Will always be in the fifteen man squad of test cricket unless we find better bowlers.

 

Harshit Rana - Need to go back to the drawing board. Has youth and height on his side. Put him in India A and monitor his growth.

 

Arshdeep Singh - Very good white ball bowler. Has many tricks up his sleeve. I don't think he is fit enough to play test cricket. Making him play test cricket will cause injuries imo.

 

In SENA countries, I think we need 4 pacers + 1 spinner.

 

@Lord @Chaos @Vijy @Laaloo @Vickydev @coffee_rules @zen @vvvslaxman

 

Discussion is open for all and not limited to the people tagged.

 

 

lol there is no need for Harshit to “go back to the drawing board” and India A cricket first. 
That’s ridiculous. He bowled pretty well besides a match / an innings or two. 

That guy just needs to be played and played before Deep. 

 

And the fifth test wicket was probably the best one for fast bowling. So yes Prasidh did well but that doesn’t mean Harshit wouldn’t have.

[MK55]

Even the bowlers who played the fifth test got trashed in the second innings when the opposition is intentionally looking to score quick runs. Australia chased down 160 odd on this spicy wicket at almost 6 runs per over.

[Vickydev]

More than anything we need proper A tours now. And can't be wasting a spot on likes of Saini(don't dislike him, even TM knows they'll never pick him) . I think Rana has potential,just not enough preparation went into getting him ready