Vicks57 Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 (edited) Another moron who has no common sense despite being educated. Just like Annamalai. But but this guy is IIT Madras Director Are Sanghis usually this retarded? Man says cow urine has anti-bacterial properties and it will cure Irritable bowel syndrome. https://m.economictimes.com/magazines/panache/who-is-v-kamakoti-meet-iit-madras-director-who-claimed-cow-urine-can-cure-ibs-and-other-digestive-issues/articleshow/117372795.cms As a hindu, I am only feeling deep sense of shame at how sanghis have only embarassed hindus with their speeches. @coffee_rules @ravishingravi @Chaos @vvvslaxman @singhvivek141 @zen @Muloghonto @misha@mishra @Laaloo @Back2Cricket @randomGuy @Lone Wolf @rollingstoned @New guy @The Dark Horse Opinion is open to all and not just the people tagged. Edited January 19 by Vicks57 The Dark Horse, rollingstoned, Chaos and 4 others 4 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 5 hours ago, Vicks57 said: Another moron who has no common sense despite being educated. Just like Annamalai. But but this guy is IIT Madras Director Are Sanghis usually this retarded? Man says cow urine has anti-bacterial properties and it will cure Irritable bowel syndrome. https://m.economictimes.com/magazines/panache/who-is-v-kamakoti-meet-iit-madras-director-who-claimed-cow-urine-can-cure-ibs-and-other-digestive-issues/articleshow/117372795.cms As a hindu, I am only feeling deep sense of shame at how sanghis have only embarassed hindus with their speeches. @coffee_rules @ravishingravi @Chaos @vvvslaxman @singhvivek141 @zen @Muloghonto @misha@mishra @Laaloo @Back2Cricket @randomGuy @Lone Wolf @rollingstoned @New guy @The Dark Horse Opinion is open to all and not just the people tagged. Lol politics now is funny where they make us feel retarded. Vicks57 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singhvivek141 Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 (edited) 6 hours ago, Vicks57 said: Another moron who has no common sense despite being educated. Just like Annamalai. But but this guy is IIT Madras Director Are Sanghis usually this retarded? Man says cow urine has anti-bacterial properties and it will cure Irritable bowel syndrome. https://m.economictimes.com/magazines/panache/who-is-v-kamakoti-meet-iit-madras-director-who-claimed-cow-urine-can-cure-ibs-and-other-digestive-issues/articleshow/117372795.cms As a hindu, I am only feeling deep sense of shame at how sanghis have only embarassed hindus with their speeches. @coffee_rules @ravishingravi @Chaos @vvvslaxman @singhvivek141 @zen @Muloghonto @misha@mishra @Laaloo @Back2Cricket @randomGuy @Lone Wolf @rollingstoned @New guy @The Dark Horse Opinion is open to all and not just the people tagged. Drinking Gau mutra directly is harmful. Specially now when the cow paddy itself is full of fertilizers and other chemicals. But it's also true that it has several medicinal properties and hence it has been an ingredient in several of the ancient ayurvedic medicines as written in Shushruta Samhita & Ashtanga Sangrah. Just like taking drugs directly can harm you, but they are part of certain allopathic medicines. Maybe the Director wanted to say the above but in slip of tongue spoke something else. I don't understand Tamil so can't say for sure the exact words he has spoken. Edited January 20 by singhvivek141 rollingstoned, Vicks57, mishra and 1 other 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicks57 Posted January 20 Author Share Posted January 20 (edited) 11 minutes ago, singhvivek141 said: Drinking Gau mutra directly is harmful. But it's also true that it has several medicinal properties and hence it has been an ingredient in several of the ancient ayurvedic medicines as written in Shushruta Samhita & Ashtanga Sangrah. Just like taking drugs directly can harm you, but they are part of certain allopathic medicines. Maybe the Director wanted to say the above but in slip of tongue spoke something else. I don't understand Tamil so can't say for sure the exact words he has spoken. English translation is in the tweet and there is also an news source I mentioned from economic times. Cow urine is not a drug. No urine should be consumed. Ayurveda, Siddha may have been the best medical practice available at the time. Since Indians failed to evolve their medical research, it has been overtaken. Evidence Based Medicine (Allopathy) is the only practice science supports. Rest all is quackery. Unless Ayurveda and Siddha decide to do proper clinical trials and prove a particular drug, it is false and strictly a belief/faith. We should not be backing quackery even though it used to be effective in old days and part of Indian culture. Edited January 20 by Vicks57 rollingstoned and mishra 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 7 minutes ago, Vicks57 said: English translation is in the tweet and there is also an news source I mentioned from economic times. Cow urine is not a drug. No urine should be consumed. Ayurveda, Siddha may have been the best medical practice available at the time. Since Indians failed to evolve their medical research, it has been overtaken. Evidence Based Medicine (Allopathy) is the only practice science supports. Rest all is quackery. Unless Ayurveda and Siddha decide to do proper clinical trials and prove a particular drug, it is false and strictly a belief/faith. We should not be backing quackery even though it used to be effective in old days and part of Indian culture. No urine should be consumed directly. What is wrong if some Ayurvedic medicine has some distillation that uses it ? Let it follow proper scientific method and govt regulate it. West does it https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4566776/ https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3117312/ Vicks57 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rollingstoned Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 6 hours ago, Vicks57 said: Another moron who has no common sense despite being educated. Just like Annamalai. But but this guy is IIT Madras Director Are Sanghis usually this retarded? Man says cow urine has anti-bacterial properties and it will cure Irritable bowel syndrome. https://m.economictimes.com/magazines/panache/who-is-v-kamakoti-meet-iit-madras-director-who-claimed-cow-urine-can-cure-ibs-and-other-digestive-issues/articleshow/117372795.cms As a hindu, I am only feeling deep sense of shame at how sanghis have only embarassed hindus with their speeches. @coffee_rules @ravishingravi @Chaos @vvvslaxman @singhvivek141 @zen @Muloghonto @misha@mishra @Laaloo @Back2Cricket @randomGuy @Lone Wolf @rollingstoned @New guy @The Dark Horse Opinion is open to all and not just the people tagged. He can cite several studies which is why he is saying what he is saying, never mind that probably no one takes gaumutra right now. The same kind of studies which are used for allopathic medicines, which you no doubt think are a barometer of 'scientific temper'. Its not like the speciality designer coffee which is drunk in Indonesia by whitebois which is literally cat **** called 'kopi luwak'. Avoid tagging me like this btw. If you hate yourself that much, can't think critically but still want to take on collective shame for your own personal failings find a way to do so in private Instead of speaking for all 'Yeendus/Sankis' like the garden variety dravidoid pondscum tends to do. Don't go as far as roping yourself tho. raki05, Vicks57, coffee_rules and 1 other 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singhvivek141 Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 12 minutes ago, Vicks57 said: Ayurveda, Siddha may have been the best medical practice available at the time. Since Indians failed to evolve their medical research, it has been overtaken. Indian medical research didn't fail to evolve, there are still many tribal and rural practices which evolves these Ayurvedic treatments and its very helpful to the body. Kerala is a hub of Ayurveda where people from all parts of the country come for Ayurvedic treatment. Patanjali has been extremely helpful for people with Hypertension, Thyroid & type 2 Diabetes. Indian medicine has been doing surgery since the time when west was running around naked and eating raw flesh from animals. Unfortunately, we lost our traditional knowledgeable first due to loss of data due to so many attacks and then due to the British era which destroyed our education system and replaced it with their interpretation. raki05 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicks57 Posted January 20 Author Share Posted January 20 5 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: No urine should be consumed directly. What is wrong if some Ayurvedic medicine has some distillation that uses it ? Let it follow proper scientific method and govt regulate it. West does it https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4566776/ https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3117312/ Phenyl also has anti-bacterial properties. Will you drink it? IIT-M director said his father drank urine and fever subsided in 15 mins. What kind of *ing **** is this? This **** is sad beyond help. We got people like you who work in STEM in US refuse to criticize this guy. rollingstoned 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rollingstoned Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 14 minutes ago, Vicks57 said: English translation is in the tweet and there is also an news source I mentioned from economic times. Cow urine is not a drug. No urine should be consumed. Ayurveda, Siddha may have been the best medical practice available at the time. Since Indians failed to evolve their medical research, it has been overtaken. Evidence Based Medicine (Allopathy) is the only practice science supports. Rest all is quackery. Unless Ayurveda and Siddha decide to do proper clinical trials and prove a particular drug, it is false and strictly a belief/faith. We should not be backing quackery even though it used to be effective in old days and part of Indian culture. Who told you natural medicine/Siddha/Ayurveda is not evidence based? Lol. You probably don't even know what empiricism means let alone 'western medicines' own history which you think is the gold standard which us heathens should be thankful for. Before you wish to sit on a high horse and preach 'scientistic' platitudes - science being study of actual phenomena, scientism being the use of science as a dogma like religion is - it would behoove you to know certain basics. You have a habit of shooting your load on issues you don't know anything about. coffee_rules, Vicks57 and raki05 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicks57 Posted January 20 Author Share Posted January 20 1 minute ago, singhvivek141 said: Unfortunately, we lost our traditional knowledgeable first due to loss of data due to so many attacks and then due to the British era which destroyed our education system and replaced it with their interpretation. Lost our knowledge/ failed to evolve. Same ****. Ultimately we failed. Unless you do clinical trials and get your drug approved, AYUSH is just quackery. It is just a belief/faith. @Back2Cricket Are you hearing all this ****? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 (edited) 11 minutes ago, rollingstoned said: Who told you natural medicine/Siddha/Ayurveda is not evidence based? Lol. You probably don't even know what empiricism means let alone 'western medicines' own history which you think is the gold standard which us heathens should be thankful for. Before you wish to sit on a high horse and preach 'scientistic' platitudes - science being study of actual phenomena, scientism being the use of science as a dogma like religion is - it would behoove you to know certain basics. You have a habit of shooting your load on issues you don't know anything about. Sorry, replied to the wrong post Edited January 20 by coffee_rules Chaos 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 Guys cmon we live in 2025. Urine? Bit too much? Vicks57 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicks57 Posted January 20 Author Share Posted January 20 2 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: Never said Ayurveda is not evidence based. You jump to conclusions about others and are fcuking judge-mental! We have a ministry called AYUSH regulating stuff. The benefits of turmeric was known to Indians long before Allopathy discovered it. Lotsa of people believe in Ayurveda who are not sanghis. You seem to have a low self-esteem that every thread is about sanghis or NRIs. Man, did you just compare cow urine to turmeric? Chaos 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 13 minutes ago, rollingstoned said: Who told you natural medicine/Siddha/Ayurveda is not evidence based? Lol. You probably don't even know what empiricism means let alone 'western medicines' own history which you think is the gold standard which us heathens should be thankful for. Before you wish to sit on a high horse and preach 'scientistic' platitudes - science being study of actual phenomena, scientism being the use of science as a dogma like religion is - it would behoove you to know certain basics. You have a habit of shooting your load on issues you don't know anything about. Ayurveda is evidence based. Not blind faith. He jumps to conclusions about others and is fcuking judge-mental! We have a ministry called AYUSH regulating stuff. The benefits of turmeric was known to Indians long before Allopathy discovered it. Lotsa of people believe in Ayurveda who are not sanghis. He seems to have a low self-esteem that every thread is about sanghis or NRIs. rollingstoned 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 1 minute ago, Vicks57 said: Man, did you just compare cow urine to turmeric? There are research papers I quoted. Go read them. Don’t put words in my mouth. Never said we should drink cow urine directly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/agricultural-and-biological-sciences/premarin#:~:text=Premarin is a highly prescribed,in the USA since 1942. Premarin is a highly prescribed orally administered estrogen. It is also available as a topical cream. This estrogenic product is isolated from the urine of pregnant horses (PREgnant MARes' urINe). It has been used for hormone replacement therapy for postmenopausal women in the USA since 1942 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicks57 Posted January 20 Author Share Posted January 20 (edited) 7 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/agricultural-and-biological-sciences/premarin#:~:text=Premarin is a highly prescribed,in the USA since 1942. Premarin is a highly prescribed orally administered estrogen. It is also available as a topical cream. This estrogenic product is isolated from the urine of pregnant horses (PREgnant MARes' urINe). It has been used for hormone replacement therapy for postmenopausal women in the USA since 1942 Look up the meaning of the word "isolated". So if scientists isolate a chemical from urine, will you drink urine? Lets say for hypothetical purposes, scientists discover a useful chemical in snake poison and a bunch of religious nuts who worship snake drinks snake poison and use this scientific citation as reference. Society also refuses to criticize the religious nuts who do this. What do you think of that society and the religion that promotes such non-sense? Edited January 20 by Vicks57 Vk1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Vicks57 said: Look up the meaning of the word "isolated". So if scientists isolate a chemical from urine, will you drink urine? Lets say for hypothetical purposes, scientists discover a useful chemical in snake poison and a bunch of religious nuts who worship snake drinks snake poison and use this scientific citation as reference. Society also refuses to criticize the religious nuts who do this. What do you think of that society? Go read what I posted. Never advocated to drink urine to cure cancer. Why are you arguing like I said so, unless you are dyslexic . I am talking about isolation, distillation whatever process is used to extract the drug. It is not just Allopathy that does it, many natural medicines also do the same. Like nigiri oil preparation from eucalyptus tree. That was Ayurveda ! Edited January 20 by coffee_rules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicks57 Posted January 20 Author Share Posted January 20 I guess "educated" religious nuts want their cow urine distilled, boiled and homogenised for consumption. Maybe then they can use it as syrup for their pancakes @Chaos what do you say? Sandz and rollingstoned 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Vicks57 said: I guess "educated" religious nuts want their cow urine distilled, boiled and homogenised for consumption. Maybe then they can use it as syrup for their pancakes @Chaos what do you say? Harami ki aulaad. Trollturd. I was ignoring you. Will put you back in ignore list. Agree with @ravishingravi we need to get educated leftists, not two-bit trolls. We had such good ones like shwetabh who also went crazy in the end. Vaampanti bade harami hote hain . Even @ash is better compared to him. Edited January 20 by coffee_rules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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