StraightDrive26 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 17 minutes ago, tapandrun said: He is 33 next odi wc is 3-4 years in time. By then he will be 36, he is already slow mover in the field and does not add much with the bat. Plus these kind of bowlers works till the mystery lasts next t20i wc is in 2 years, his abilities should be maximized there and not expose him alot that batters can pick him. mystery bowlers works in t20s because it gives less time for batters to pre-empt the bowler and batters are under pressure to score quickly, in odis they have time and pick and chose the ball which they are picking from the had or able to manage off the pitch. Ind should develop a proper legspinning allrounder for Odis, think there was some1 in UP team who can bowl leg-spin and bat ,was able to hit 4/6 in domestic level. The next ODI WC is in 2027 which is just 2 years away. So he will be 35. I agree that T20I seems to be his format at the moment. But again age is not the reason for him to be not picked in ODIs. If he is good he needs to play and at least prove himself in the format. If Varun C is too old to play in 2027, Jadeja will be 37, Virat will be 38, Rohit will be 40 and they all are still playing ODIs and are planning to play in the 2027 WC. Technically all the players I mentioned above should have been asked to retire from ODIs since they would be too old at the time of the WC but they get picked for CT and beyond. There is no player who is more unfit than Rohit and he is captaining the side. From Virat inspiring fitness from his players we have a captain who is the most unfit player in the country. rollingstoned 1 Link to comment
tapandrun Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 6 minutes ago, StraightDrive26 said: The next ODI WC is in 2027 which is just 2 years away. So he will be 35. I agree that T20I seems to be his format at the moment. But again age is not the reason for him to be not picked in ODIs. If he is good he needs to play and at least prove himself in the format. If Varun C is too old to play in 2027, Jadeja will be 37, Virat will be 38, Rohit will be 40 and they all are still playing ODIs and are planning to play in the 2027 WC. Technically all the players I mentioned above should have been asked to retire from ODIs since they would be too old at the time of the WC but they get picked for CT and beyond. There is no player who is more unfit than Rohit and he is captaining the side. From Virat inspiring fitness from his players we have a captain who is the most unfit player in the country. rohit should be out, they are just wasting time now. never against of age its that varun is not a quick mover rt. now and not getting any younger. both jadeja and kolhi will still be fastest mover on the field rt. now in Ind team, but their time is done too. Its nt about age but utility and how far game has progressed. can kolhi's style of batting get Ind to 350+ ,is there a place fr jadeja ....?? Lord 1 Link to comment
Ultimate_Game Posted January 28 Author Share Posted January 28 1 hour ago, tapandrun said: rohit should be out, they are just wasting time now. never against of age its that varun is not a quick mover rt. now and not getting any younger. both jadeja and kolhi will still be fastest mover on the field rt. now in Ind team, but their time is done too. Its nt about age but utility and how far game has progressed. can kolhi's style of batting get Ind to 350+ ,is there a place fr jadeja ....?? Kohli's style of batting won't even get you 250, forget 350. And Jadeja never deserved a spot in white-ball cricket, and shouldn't be picked. Link to comment
tapandrun Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 51 minutes ago, Ultimate_Game said: Kohli's style of batting won't even get you 250, forget 350. And Jadeja never deserved a spot in white-ball cricket, and shouldn't be picked. Ind selectors/tm have habit of picking player in the name of being allrounders who are not proper allrounder or not suited for the position. Jadeja played ~200 odis with only 13 50s+ score and 0 100s, played t20is batting at 6/7/8.. with SR of ~125, the list goes on they pick dube calling him allrounder, vijay shankar makes it to wc team, now they have sundar in t20is when he can not make into ipl playing 11. Kolhi's style is getting dated, kolhi and Kl costed a wc-final and there was no repercussion they still are in ODI team.... rollingstoned and Ultimate_Game 1 1 Link to comment
diga Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 5 hours ago, tapandrun said: He is 33 next odi wc is 3-4 years in time. By then he will be 36, he is already slow mover in the field and does not add much with the bat. Plus these kind of bowlers works till the mystery lasts next t20i wc is in 2 years, his abilities should be maximized there and not expose him alot that batters can pick him. mystery bowlers works in t20s because it gives less time for batters to pre-empt the bowler and batters are under pressure to score quickly, in odis they have time and pick and chose the ball which they are picking from the had or able to manage off the pitch. Ind should develop a proper legspinning allrounder for Odis, think there was some1 in UP team who can bowl leg-spin and bat ,was able to hit 4/6 in domestic level. Sure..but he can be tried out for Champions trophy.. will run through bakis Link to comment
tapandrun Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 (edited) For CT-25, is it fair to assume that bhumrah will nt be there, then Ind will have atleast 3 slow movers in the field - Varun, Shami (Coming after injury would not want to risk him) and rohit. And the only player he can replace is sundar he too is not a fast moves but can be positioned in the deep square boundaries, plus even thought sundar is no hitter but he is better batter than varun. Adding varun it makes the tail longer and with rohit and kolhi team may need a longer batting line-up specially when NZ has already beaten ind in test and bd are good when spins has bigger role to play with these being used pitches and then pak may also bring their mystery spinner -abrar right now Ind needs longer batting line-up in ct as Ind does not have any bankable bowler may be kuldeep but he is also coming off an injury Edited January 29 by tapandrun Link to comment
jf1gp_1 Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 11 hours ago, Lord said: Even in ODIs they don't look to milk spinners anymore. Big question is fitness to bowl 10 overs and field 50 overs He did bowl in vijay hazare. Don't know how many games he got but fitness hopefully is a thing in past. Link to comment
rollingstoned Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 12 hours ago, Ultimate_Game said: He was scapegoated for the failures of the batters as usual. The batters failed in WT20 in 2021 and Varun C paid the price. It's always youngsters and fringe players who pay the price, never the stars who were the main reason we failed. Lol both him and harshal patel became casualties of that WC. Not sure which match he played and even whether he sucked or not. Ultimate_Game 1 Link to comment
Ultimate_Game Posted January 29 Author Share Posted January 29 9 hours ago, rollingstoned said: Lol both him and harshal patel became casualties of that WC. Not sure which match he played and even whether he sucked or not. Against NZ they scored 110 and then blamed the bowlers. Against Pak they scored 150 but didn't bowl Bumrah first up. Poor batting and captaincy phucked us and Varun C was scapegoated. He and Venky Iyer never got a fair run. They couldn't ignore Varun C anymore, though they're still doing it in ODIs, but Venky still hasn't gotten a fair run and he's leaps and bounds better than Sundar and Jurel in shorter formats. rollingstoned 1 Link to comment
tapandrun Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 (edited) 45 minutes ago, Ultimate_Game said: Against NZ they scored 110 and then blamed the bowlers. Against Pak they scored 150 but didn't bowl Bumrah first up. Poor batting and captaincy phucked us and Varun C was scapegoated. He and Venky Iyer never got a fair run. They couldn't ignore Varun C anymore, though they're still doing it in ODIs, but Venky still hasn't gotten a fair run and he's leaps and bounds better than Sundar and Jurel in shorter formats. varun should nt have been picked for that wc he was half fit, played ipl with injury, some players can be handy in ipl even when they are half fit, but not icc event, specially when they do not have intnl exp. they had to get some scapegoat and he was easy1. v.iyer think they tried to destroy his career, he came into ind side on the back of some good ipl performances playing at top order and with some far fetched promise that he is an allrounder a back-up to pandaya. As he was challenging position of kl, rohit, kolhi at the top so he was asked to play in mo, which imo did ok for the opportunity he got then they asked him to play in mo in ipls and in domestic which kind of disarrayed his career as they never picked him. think sky got late debut even after playing good knocks in ipl for a big team was because he was challenging kolhi's place. Now this is more visible and clear that players who are challenging superstar's positions are getting different treatment in selection. Jaiswal yet to get his debut in odis, he played ranji inplace of facing a top quallity intnl bowling because they fear if he scores couple of 50+ scores then he will challenge rohit's place in odis.abhishek had to drop down a position for gill even after getting a 100. v.iyer is good choice he can bat anywhere from 1-6, can play both spin and pace is a good outfield fielder and may be bowl couple of over not sure in what condition and against what decent batting side but is an option anyways. Edited January 29 by tapandrun rollingstoned and Ultimate_Game 2 Link to comment
cowboysfan Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 On 1/28/2025 at 8:56 PM, Nikhil_cric said: Will it work for him when batters aren't looking to take him on every now and then ? better than trying wicketless Jaddu every game. Ultimate_Game 1 Link to comment
Nikhil_cric Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 37 minutes ago, cowboysfan said: better than trying wicketless Jaddu every game. Not strictly like for like. Jadeja was playing as a #7, rubbish as he was. Varun has to make it purely as a bowler. Link to comment
bowl_out Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 He might be picked as Bumrah's replacement for the ODI series against England to test him out in ODIs.. If it works, they might keep him as an injury back up for CT Link to comment
rkt.india Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 On 1/28/2025 at 9:38 PM, Lord said: nah Wankhede or Eden was best. At Chepauk their spinners would have done the same. Result would have been same most probably if we had lost the toss. It was win the toss win the match time period due to dew at night. Link to comment
Lord Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 On 1/29/2025 at 11:06 PM, Nikhil_cric said: Not strictly like for like. Jadeja was playing as a #7, rubbish as he was. Varun has to make it purely as a bowler. yes Varun can only be backup for Kuldeep. We need Axar or Parag to replace Jaddu Link to comment
nitinbwj Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 Varun C has to play. Leeches won't give us good scores. Varun C can defend small totals. Link to comment
Nikhil_cric Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 (edited) 1 hour ago, Lord said: yes Varun can only be backup for Kuldeep. We need Axar or Parag to replace Jaddu Parag. Axar is already there at #8. 6. Parag 7. Pandya 8. Axar 9. Kuldeep/Varun C Edited January 31 by Nikhil_cric Lord 1 Link to comment
cricspirit Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 13 hours ago, Nikhil_cric said: Parag. Axar is already there at #8. 6. Parag 7. Pandya 8. Axar 9. Kuldeep/Varun C Parag is good. Needs to be Top 5. Bekar ka time waste on ROKO. we can get a better team without them. Nikhil_cric 1 Link to comment
Nikhil_cric Posted Sunday at 11:29 AM Share Posted Sunday at 11:29 AM On 1/28/2025 at 8:56 PM, Nikhil_cric said: Will it work for him when batters aren't looking to take him on every now and then ? Early days but his defensive lengths arent working in ODI cricket. It's brilliant in T20 cricket. But his skillset is specifically that of a T20 bowler. tapandrun 1 Link to comment
Ultimate_Game Posted Sunday at 04:31 PM Author Share Posted Sunday at 04:31 PM 5 hours ago, Nikhil_cric said: Early days but his defensive lengths arent working in ODI cricket. It's brilliant in T20 cricket. But his skillset is specifically that of a T20 bowler. Use him in Power Plays, death overs or when batters are looking to score quickly. Deserves a longer run and has barely played in ODIs. Link to comment
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