coffee_rules Posted February 21 Posted February 21 Yuvraj is following his father Yograj.s footsteps, suffering from the same oot-in-the-mouth disease. Sidhu is another Baki foot licket, Bajwa hugger who finds more in common with Pakustanis than other people from India. Mullah Inzi, pehle ek hi mulk tha, aapas mein prem tha? Saale, you guys killed thousands of indus and demanded a separate country. We can never be friends. Aman ki Aasha is nothing but Love-jihad. Aman trying to woo Asha using Al-taqqiyya methods. Ai nad at this video. AuxiliA and Iconoclast 1 1
coffee_rules Posted February 21 Posted February 21 On 2/20/2025 at 8:57 AM, New guy said: No he was not, at that time rivalry was sky high, it became friendly only after Sachin retired. Sachin never refused if someone came for advice but he was not like current players laughing with them and proactively helping them and praising them. I remember back in 2005, when Pak toured India, at that time Shahid Afridi's cousin , a terrorist was killed in an encounter in Kashmir. When Afridi came to bat, all Indian players including Sachin sledged Afridi and called him a terrorist. Sachin was never a charan-chumbak of Pak players like Yuvraj/Kohli, mesky11 1
coffee_rules Posted February 21 Posted February 21 16 hours ago, Vilander said: On topic Who is Miya and who is biwi? #Discuss More like Baap and Beta. Baap Baap hota hain aur Beta Beta .
coffee_rules Posted February 21 Posted February 21 4 hours ago, Mariyam said: Ridiculous thread. Utterly meaningless. Just like the champions trophy. Just like India-Pakistan matches.
coffee_rules Posted February 21 Posted February 21 3 hours ago, Mariyam said: If this is the case the onus is on the GoI to ask Afridi to make a public statement against his relatives who were involved in terrorism and only then grant him a visa to play in India or in the IPL or even visit India to work as a commentator or simply as a guest. Or at the very least the GoI, should declare Afridi a persona non grata/ black list him and advice all Indians to not have any interaction with him outside of cricket. Our government have done nothing of the sort. When there are no directives, you can't expect a cricketer to look up a Pakistani cricketers family tree to figure pout how complicit they are in acts of terrorism. That is crazy. People behave like how they are behaved to at face value. Afridi maybe nice to these guys post the matches and they reciprocate. That's all. The onus of avenging Indian blood is not on Yuvraj Singh in a cricket studio. It was the UPA govt at that time, spineless would not even retialiate after Mumbai attack in 2008.
Lord Posted February 21 Posted February 21 13 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: I remember back in 2005, when Pak toured India, at that time Shahid Afridi's cousin , a terrorist was killed in an encounter in Kashmir. When Afridi came to bat, all Indian players including Sachin sledged Afridi and called him a terrorist. Sachin was never a charan-chumbak of Pak players like Yuvraj/Kohli, That is on field sledging. Post retirement things change Lone Wolf 1
coffee_rules Posted February 21 Posted February 21 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Lord said: That is on field sledging. Post retirement things change This is some formal event, it is not a cricket field to sledge. If he sledged here, it would considered indecent and bad behaviour. In the field, he would compete hard. No chumma-chaati wuth Pak players on the field like Kohli. Edited February 21 by coffee_rules
Lord Posted February 21 Posted February 21 6 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: This is some formal event, it is not a cricket field to sledge. If he sledged here, it would considered indecent and bad behaviour. In the field, he would compete hard. No chumma-chaati wuth Pak players on the field like Kohli. That is exactly the point. Yuvi was on the stage so couldn't bring up terrorism etc even if he wanted
coffee_rules Posted February 21 Posted February 21 4 minutes ago, Lord said: That is exactly the point. Yuvi was on the stage so couldn't bring up terrorism etc even if he wanted Maybe, but we don't have sound bytes from Sachin like miya-biwi references etc
AshVin Posted February 21 Posted February 21 1 hour ago, coffee_rules said: It was the UPA govt at that time, spineless would not even retialiate after Mumbai attack in 2008. It's not about spine. Attacking Pakistan after 26/11 would alienate Congress party's domestic vote bank.
AshVin Posted February 21 Posted February 21 7 hours ago, lemsip said: Just shows that the roots of sectarianism in the subcontinent run deep and are never very far away from surfacing whether Hindu/Muslim, Sikh/Hindu, Northie/Southie etc etc. Hiding behind anonymous accounts makes it a lot easier. I'm not sure any of these guys ever have to work outside a monoculture. In the real world and especially if you work in the west, it is normal to encounter and work alongside Pakistanis, Brits etc etc. If you decided to never get along personally with anyone not of your defined "acceptable" sect because of history, you'd have a pretty short careers. All these players are doing is getting along with other professionals who are also making a living. It's a normal part of life outside the fetid social media swamp. As far as India-Pakistan is considered, the sectarianism was always started by Pakistan. It's only in the last decade that Indians are paying it back. When almost all Indians were in the Hindu-Muslim bhai bhai stage, Pakistan under Imran Khan used to see a cricket match against India as waging Jihad. Waqar as recently as 3-4 years back said he liked Rizwan doing namaz among Hindus. It was nice to see Rizwan being bullied during the last WC in India. mesky11 1
BacktoCricaddict Posted February 21 Posted February 21 1 hour ago, coffee_rules said: Shahid Afridi's cousin , a terrorist was killed in an encounter in Kashmir. all Indian players including Sachin sledged Afridi and called him a terrorist. Unless Shahid Afridi condoned his cousin's terrorist acts, I don't see a reason to call him a terrorist. Dang ... good thing I am not called out for my cousins' actions and vice versa.
BacktoCricaddict Posted February 21 Posted February 21 7 hours ago, lemsip said: Just shows that the roots of sectarianism in the subcontinent run deep and are never very far away from surfacing whether Hindu/Muslim, Sikh/Hindu, Northie/Southie etc etc. Hiding behind anonymous accounts makes it a lot easier. I'm not sure any of these guys ever have to work outside a monoculture. In the real world and especially if you work in the west, it is normal to encounter and work alongside Pakistanis, Brits etc etc. If you decided to never get along personally with anyone not of your defined "acceptable" sect because of history, you'd have a pretty short careers. All these players are doing is getting along with other professionals who are also making a living. It's a normal part of life outside the fetid social media swamp. Overall, I agree with this, but the CT17 laughing-it-up with the opponents, immediately after being humiliated, rubbed me the wrong way and still pisses me off if I think about it.
coffee_rules Posted February 21 Posted February 21 (edited) 4 minutes ago, BacktoCricaddict said: Unless Shahid Afridi condoned his cousin's terrorist acts, I don't see a reason to call him a terrorist. Dang ... good thing I am not called out for my cousins' actions and vice versa. Forget condoning his cousin, he supports Kashmir insurgency, terrorism and freedom. There should be no love for Shahid Afridi in whatever field. There is no ethical or neeti in sledging. McGrath told Sarwan some horrible things and he retaliated about his wife. McGrath got offended. Edited February 21 by coffee_rules
BacktoCricaddict Posted February 21 Posted February 21 Just now, coffee_rules said: McGrath told Sarwan some horrible things and he retaliated about his wife. McGrath got offended. Doesn't make them the right things to do. McGrath was a scumbag. Sarwan stooped to his level. As usual, Ozzie cried and played victim. Even sledging should have some limits. Not by legislation, but by maturity.
BacktoCricaddict Posted February 21 Posted February 21 8 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: orget condoning his cousin, he supports Kashmir insurgency, terrorism and freedom. Like @Mariyam said, he should not have been given a visa or, if he was already there, been removed from the country by GoI.
coffee_rules Posted February 21 Posted February 21 7 minutes ago, BacktoCricaddict said: Doesn't make them the right things to do. McGrath was a scumbag. Sarwan stooped to his level. As usual, Ozzie cried and played victim. Even sledging should have some limits. Not by legislation, but by maturity. Ask goras, apparently there are no limits, unless they tell others what the limits are. I think in the game where it is important to win, morality, ethics take backseat.
coffee_rules Posted February 21 Posted February 21 5 minutes ago, BacktoCricaddict said: Like @Mariyam said, he should not have been given a visa or, if he was already there, been removed from the country by GoI. That is besides the point, but a valid case to bring it up on the field to demoralize a player mentally, that’s the motivation for sledging anyway.
BacktoCricaddict Posted February 21 Posted February 21 9 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: Ask goras, apparently there are no limits And I condemn them for it. It is this attitude that I have always loathed, especially because they turn around and whine when it is given back even in a non-abusive way. And this is why I really enjoyed Pant's sledging about "temporary captain" and then the whole babysitter thing that came from it. Enough to disturb someone's concentration, but not abusive. coffee_rules 1
Vancouver Posted February 21 Posted February 21 These international players start playing against each other from under 19 level, Likes of UV and Kohli have interacted with Pakistanis for more than 2 decades. Some of the posters need to travel more to broaden their perspective. Also it's human nature to gel with people who speak your mother tongue, have same cuisine. Kohli has more in common with a Lahori than his team mates like KL Rahul or Balaji etc. I understand the sentiment and would agree if these guys were going beyond being friendly with each other but they are not. lemsip 1
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