Playing on same ground gives India huge advantage’: Cummins criticises ICC’s controversial Champions Trophy decision

[coffee_rules]

1 hour ago, Tillu said:

By the same logic WTC shouldn't be happening in England all the time. Never seen this guy opening this mouth about the unfair advantage certain teams get. High time the BCCI raises this issue.

But Eng has never played WTC final so far. But he is fair to complain here. At least change the grounds for each match India plays. India would have played 3 matches in the group stage. If Aus/SA play against India in the SFs or Finals, they will be playing for the first tme in Dubai. India would have played all matches in the same ground , have an unfair advantage.

[Need4Speed]

BS.. if it was just being doen to give advantage to Indian team would have agreed..

the whole point is Geopolitics..else he should make noise about WTC finals every time in English conditions too..which doesnt support India..

[singhvivek141]

39 minutes ago, Serpico said:

They could have still rotated the venues in middle east 

PCB doesn't have money and resources.
Unless you want the batters to play on fields

[raki05]

This sly dog cummins should be dropped from SRH squad…. Indians praise him a lot but this guy is one egoistic bastard…. Biggest shame i feel is loosing to his 3rd grade team wc final. This MCod always pass comments to irk India like ashes is bigger than bgt, i will not have anyone from India in austrailian team also the way he kept his leg on wc after winning it. If i will get a chance would love to punch his smug face!!

[G_B_]

He has a point.

 

Maybe india could have played in different grounds of uae than just dubai. 

 

Or dubai and sl.

 

But then again, hosts will always have advantages. Thats in any sport.

 

Pakistan are too poor to even take advantage of home conditions.

 

 

[goose]

India should play the final in Pakistan if they make it that far. We can carry on refusing test series and bilaterals.

[Serpico]

5 minutes ago, goose said:

India should play the final in Pakistan if they make it that far. We can carry on refusing test series and bilaterals.

What would be the point to refuse league games then? Our whole argument is our players cannot set foot in pakistan even for a day, if they can do one day then that argument falls apart.

 

Honestly Jay shah being the icc head must take the perception into account while directing the schedules. There's no reason to put asteriks on Indian schedule in every single icc tournament

[Chakdephatte]

Did you guys even listen to what he said? He is absolutely right. No need of whataboutery. He was one of those cricketers to have donated to PM cares during Covid. So, keep your deshbbhakti aside and listen to what he says, he is absolutely right. 

[goose]

45 minutes ago, Serpico said:

What would be the point to refuse league games then? Our whole argument is our players cannot set foot in pakistan even for a day, if they can do one day then that argument falls apart.

 

Honestly Jay shah being the icc head must take the perception into account while directing the schedules. There's no reason to put asteriks on Indian schedule in every single icc tournament

 

 

it's signifies direction of travel. pakistan are knocked out. playing a non pak side in pakistan in an ICC tournament is about as consistent as you can be with prior policy whilst picking up some much needed international good will.

[MK55]

I dint know we are only playing on one ground?? The reasons to not play in the host country are completely valid but at least play on multiple grounds. 
 

And he’s absolutely correct. Playing on just one ground gives a side a massive advantage even before the tournament begins. U can basically fill your entire side with players catered to that wicket. This joke won’t happen in any other sport. 

 

Also how’s the dew situation in that venue? At most other grounds that factor also heavily skews the result and hence introduces an uncertainty / risk factor.

 

 

Edited February 24 by MK55

[nitinbwj]

Chup kar bsdk. 

[Ultimate_Game]

I would take Cummins and other goras more seriously if they call out the hypocrisy of holding WTC finals in England every time. Eng suits them much better so they're ok with it but in this case the venue is Dubai and not their preferred venue so crying from the rooftops.

[putrevus]

He right on this issue.

 

India can also complain, ICC test finals if they were held in India , India was going to win both of them.

 

It is ridiculous that England gets to host it.

[Gollum]

This is where BCCI lacks the smarts, shrewdness of ECB/CA. Never make it too obvious. Simply rotating among the 3 UAE venues (even 2 !!!!!) in group stage would have been enough, anyway all are max 50-60 miles from each other (Dubai-Sharjah not even 10 I think), no hectic travelling. And with 1 pm local time start, no dew factor. Nobody could have raised any complaint. 

 

Then host SF/F in Dubai because it is the biggest stadium among the 3, just like how Barbados hosts all the finals in WI. 

Edited February 24 by Gollum

[putrevus]

2 minutes ago, Gollum said:

This is where BCCI lacks the smarts, shrewdness of ECB/CA. Never make it too obvious. Simply rotating among the 3 UAE venues (even 2 !!!!!) in group stage would have been enough, anyway all are max 50-60 miles from each other (Dubai-Sharjah not even 10 I think), no hectic travelling. And with 1 pm local time start, no dew factor. Nobody could have raised any complaint. 

 

Then host SF/F in Dubai because it is the biggest stadium among the 3, just like how Barbados hosts all the finals in WI. 

I don't think it was upto BCCI. IMO ICC/Pakistan did not want to incur additional expenses needed to get other two venues ready.

 

 

[Gollum]

Just now, putrevus said:

I don't think it was upto BCCI. IMO ICC/Pakistan did not want to incur additional expenses needed to get other two venues ready.

 

 

My understanding is that all 3 venues were in use in recently concluded ILT20. 

[neel roy]

3 hours ago, Gollum said:

For the sake of fairness. Otherwise India can win the tournament just by stationing in one venue. Have to reduce any advantage due to familiarity with conditions.....anyway lack of travel fatigue is a big enough advantage for us, no need of extra perks.

 

If Aus or NZ had similar scheduling, we all would be up in arms. 

Like Harlem Globetrotters we played wc2023 in 10 cities across india. Pak basically played in 3 venues. We were actually more tired travelling than winning..

[Lone Wolf]

17 minutes ago, Gollum said:

This is where BCCI lacks the smarts, shrewdness of ECB/CA. Never make it too obvious. Simply rotating among the 3 UAE venues (even 2 !!!!!) in group stage would have been enough, anyway all are max 50-60 miles from each other (Dubai-Sharjah not even 10 I think), no hectic travelling. And with 1 pm local time start, no dew factor. Nobody could have raised any complaint. 

 

Then host SF/F in Dubai because it is the biggest stadium among the 3, just like how Barbados hosts all the finals in WI. 

I fully agree here...Sharjah games would be lottery such a midget venue.

India vs NZ is a week apart they could have smartly hosted the game in Abu Dhabi.

 

SKY sports already running an agenda on this one.  If we do end up winning they will try to take the sheen away from the victory.

 

[Gollum]

4 minutes ago, neel roy said:

Like Harlem Globetrotters we played wc2023 in 10 cities across india. Pak basically played in 3 venues. We were actually more tired travelling than winning..

Pak played in Kolkata (Eng, BD), Chennai (Afg, RSA), Bengaluru (NZ, Aus), Hyderabad (SL, Neth), Ahmedabad (Ind). 4 opposition ruled states and Modi/Shah's ego project. 

[Lone Wolf]

10 minutes ago, neel roy said:

Like Harlem Globetrotters we played wc2023 in 10 cities across india. Pak basically played in 3 venues. We were actually more tired travelling than winning..

I think they would make it even during T20 WC 2026 as it is jointly hosted by India and SL.

Pakistan games will happen in SL including one Semi final in Colombo.

India v Pak in Colombo/Kandy.

 

BCCI will make sure final happens in India like 2011.  Even if in a off chance Pak makes it to the final