Confirmed News : Both Rohit and Virat are going to play the 2027 World Cup

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On 3/13/2025 at 2:11 PM, Lord said:

Krunal is definitely khoonkhar

Haa 2-4 khun to kiye honge usne 

[mikeypbadana86]

12 hours ago, Ultimate_Game said:

 

India missed such a trick by handing over captaincy to Kohli after Dhoni. If they had given it to Rohit we probably end up with 2 more ICC trophies. No way Rohit persists with a top heavy lineup with just 5 batters and 5 bowlers who couldn't hold the bat.

2019 ODI world cup semis, it was sheer bad luck that rain pushed indias innings to next day. No captain could beat conditons like rohit could not beat the slow pitch in 2023 odi world cup final, 2019 ODI semis, the pitch became damp and conducive to seam/swing due to rain and over cast conditions.

 

Its the loss in 2017 champions trophy which led to kulcha( kuldeep) who delivered in 2025 CT final. Its the duo of pandya,rishab who failed in 2019 ODI semis who performed in 2024 t20 world cup final. 

 

2024 t20 semis too, it was panday/brumash brillainace rather than rohits captaincy master stroke. Rohit almost lost it for us bolwing akshar when it should have been pandya. Kohli lacked an element of luck. I agree india  could not win under iCC toruneys and rohit is better odi captain than kohli. Having said that, Kohli built a culture of fast bowling, nurtured fitness/fast bowling culture and made india a strong bowling unit which meant India had good success in SENA countries in TEST's and overall became a great test team. I think, kohli is an agressive captain who tends to go for the kill which does not work in ODI/t20's since its game of containment. 

[Suhaan]

विराट कोहली ने संन्यास लेने का कर लिया फैसला! इस दिन रिटारमेंट लेकर तोड़ेंगे करोड़ों फैंस का दिल, खुद किया खुलासा

 

https://hindi.cricketaddictor.com/cricket-news/virat-kohli-has-decided-to-retire-he-will-break-the-hearts-of-millions-of-fans-by-retiring-on-this-day-he-himself-revealed-it-8857725

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30 minutes ago, mikeypbadana86 said:

No captain could beat conditons like rohit could not beat the slow pitch in 2023 odi world cup final, 2019 ODI semis, the pitch became damp and conducive to seam/swing due to rain and over cast conditions.

Way to go! I guess the conditions also force BRat to pick 4 keepers huh & walking/talking colgate ad over say Kuldeep or BK over Shami 

 

And I kept telling everyone here why he should've come in at 4 but No he's the best number 3 ever - how did the best choker joker fare in another KO 

Edited March 16, 2025 by R!TTER

[mikeypbadana86]

32 minutes ago, R!TTER said:

Way to go! I guess the conditions also force BRat to pick 4 keepers huh & walking/talking colgate ad over say Kuldeep or BK over Shami 

 

And I kept telling everyone here why he should've come in at 4 but No he's the best number 3 ever - how did the best choker joker fare in another KO 

Peak west indies could not chase 183 in 1983 final. Peak pakistan could only score 132 in 1999 final. When the ball seams and swings, its the bowlers who are calling the shots in England.

 

Rohit and KL rahul both threw it away. It would have been fine, if they got out attacking. Defending and getting out for no score puts preassure on entire batting line up.

 

It was an umpires call with the ball barely clipping. The ball started on leg stump and swung back, what could have kohli done different here? He covered the line and the ball hit him high on pad with barely clicking the top of off stump. "Umpires call" Could have been not out, had the on-field umpire given not out. 

 

Full again, starts on leg stump and swings back in towards middle. Kohli stretches across and plays around his front pad. Pinged on the front pad just above the knee-roll. This looks close, and the tracker returns umpire's call on leg stump

 

I do not understand why Kohli is called a choker. Check his overall record below.

 

 

 

[mikeypbadana86]

35 minutes ago, R!TTER said:

Way to go! I guess the conditions also force BRat to pick 4 keepers huh & walking/talking colgate ad over say Kuldeep or BK over Shami 

 

And I kept telling everyone here why he should've come in at 4 but No he's the best number 3 ever - how did the best choker joker fare in another KO 

Rishabh Pant	c de Grandhomme b Santner	32	56	89	4	0	57.14
Dinesh Karthik	c Neesham b Henry	6	25	29	1	0	24.00
Hardik Pandya	c Williamson b Santner	32	62	81	2	0	51.61
MS Dhoni †	run out (Guptill)	50	72	114	1	1	69.44

 

India lost the match by 19 runs. Had one of rishab/hardik/ms dhoni scored run a ball, India would have won it. 

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3 minutes ago, mikeypbadana86 said:

The ball started on leg stump and swung back, what could have kohli done different here?

Well for one he should've come behind DK, that could've saved him a little bit of time or maybe not. BRat isn't a good player of swing, never has been even at his peak, so him sticking to 3 was a brain dead move! You're telling me this is not him or picking such a poor side? And just so you know BRat got out after RGS, not KL although he also threw it away.

[R!TTER]

2 minutes ago, mikeypbadana86 said:

India lost the match by 19 runs. Had one of rishab/hardik/ms dhoni scored run a ball, India would have won it. 

What was the need of so many WK, why didn't we pick Kja instead of DK/Pant? He was doing fairly well till then & his spin bowling would've been handy, could've picked another batter instead of Behaal and Shami over BK. He went "safe" with the bowling options & completely utterly *ing stupid with the batting lineup!

[mikeypbadana86]

 

6 minutes ago, mikeypbadana86 said:

Rishabh Pant	c de Grandhomme b Santner	32	56	89	4	0	57.14
Dinesh Karthik	c Neesham b Henry	6	25	29	1	0	24.00
Hardik Pandya	c Williamson b Santner	32	62	81	2	0	51.61
MS Dhoni †	run out (Guptill)	50	72	114	1	1	69.44

 

India lost the match by 19 runs. Had one of rishab/hardik/ms dhoni scored run a ball, India would have won it. 

Kohlis dismissal was 50-50. Choking is throwing it away like sachin did it in 2011 ODI final when he was set playing 15-20 balls.

 

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Right so we'll forget the 50 against Aus in the same QF or another 80 odd vs Pak. Maybe you can find me another player who scored 3 fifties in the same WC KO's with 2 of them being chases! You're acting just like a BRat fangirl who's infamous around these parts, probably two  

[mikeypbadana86]

8 minutes ago, R!TTER said:

Kja

 

12 minutes ago, R!TTER said:

Well for one he should've come behind DK, that could've saved him a little bit of time or maybe not. BRat isn't a good player of swing, never has been even at his peak, so him sticking to 3 was a brain dead move! You're telling me this is not him or picking such a poor side? And just so you know BRat got out after RGS, not KL although he also threw it away.

Saeed anwar the great pakistani batter said, its a myth that batters pick the length from the hand of bowler but off the pitch/second guess the line/length. I do not recall a single batter who could have batted in 1996 semis where ball was turning square nor any batter who bats like a dream on a dampened pitch which has both swing and seam. Check back the match condition, its the only world cup (knockout)  innings which got pushed to next day due to rain. The rain made it worse for indian batters with seam off the pitch, in addition to swing all through out. 

 

You have india at 70/3 in 20 overs. 170 needed off 30 overs with both rishabd pant and pandya throwing it away( the bowlers did not earn the wicket but both of them have gone for the lofted shots and got out) .  Its not kohli/virtat alone who would decide. It was ravi sasthri who sent DK ahead of dhoni, sure he would have asked Virat to bat at number 4. In addition to the rain/innings got pushed to next day, shikar dawan who was doing great as opener got injured which brought choker KL RAHUL as opener. So much bad luck in single match. 

 

If not for overthrow, ENG would have failed to score 241 against NZ in final . Do not underestimate the 240 target on a bowling friendly pitch in semis. Kohli did not throw it away but the conditions got better off him with a 50-50 decision going against him. Choking is throwing it away/getting out after playing 20-30 deliveries succumbing to preassure.

 

I am glad Kohli scored in the t20 final last year( a title win) and is the player of the match in semis in champions trophy in 2025 CT win. Add the player of torunament in 2014 t20, 2016 t20 and 2023 ODI world cup. Some thing suggests, he is by no means a choker. 

[mikeypbadana86]

8 minutes ago, R!TTER said:

Right so we'll forget the 50 against Aus in the same QF or another 80 odd vs Pak. Maybe you can find me another player who scored 3 fifties in the same WC KO's with 2 of them being chases! You're acting just like a BRat fangirl who's infamous around these parts, probably two  

80 odd vs pak with 4 dropped catches ( 4 dropped catches for heavens sake  plus a controversial DRS going in favour of sachin) . I do not recall the umpire who said, that ought to be 100 % out. 

 

By the same standard, why are you conveniently forgetting kohlis 113 in Semis in 2023 odi semis and 53 in 2023 odi final?

[R!TTER]

15 minutes ago, mikeypbadana86 said:

Check back the match condition, its the only world cup (knockout)  innings which got pushed to next day due to rain. The rain made it worse for indian batters with seam off the pitch, in addition to swing all through out. 

You are still not answering the other points I made, intentionally so! Why was Jadhav not picked, why was Shami dropped, why were there 4 keeper/bats & the worst spinner on show that day? You can try to rinse away the batting thing but the entire squad/final 11 was *ed up! Before the semis Pant and DK had 83 balls in the middle between them/combined across 4 games, who the * does that  

 

If you actually wanted to save wickets Dhongi should've come up ahead of HP or Pant!

Edited March 16, 2025 by R!TTER

[mikeypbadana86]

8 minutes ago, R!TTER said:

You are still not answering the other points I made, intentionally so! Why was Jadhav not picked, why was Shami dropped, why were there 4 keeper/bats & the worst spinner on show that day? You can try to rinse away the batting thing but the entire squad/final 11 was *ed up! Before the semis Pant and DK had 83 balls in the middle between them/combined across 4 games, who the * does that  

 

If you actually wanted to save wickets Dhongi should've come up ahead of HP or Pant!

Jadhav was a trundler and substandard batter . 

 

If you actually wanted to save wickets Dhongi should've come up ahead of HP or Pant!

Check kohlis reaction after rishabd pant throws it away, it was shastris idea to promote pant/pandya ahead of dhoni which kohli was not on board with.  240 is not out of reach despite chahal going for runs. world cup winning captain chris srikanth multiple times gave a statement that "had it not been for the rain, india would have won the semis".

 

Similarly, Australia lost the semis since it was raining overnight and aus had to bat on a damp wicket on a seaming condition in 2019 Semis. I agree rohit is a better LOI captain . Having said that Dhoni played till 2019 ODI world cup. Virat could never assert himself nor any one could have so long Dhoni stays in the team, he would be the de-facto captain. Its like imran khan being the captain despite playing as a player under wasim akram the captain. 

[mikeypbadana86]

12 minutes ago, R!TTER said:

You are still not answering the other points I made, intentionally so! Why was Jadhav not picked, why was Shami dropped, why were there 4 keeper/bats & the worst spinner on show that day? You can try to rinse away the batting thing but the entire squad/final 11 was *ed up! Before the semis Pant and DK had 83 balls in the middle between them/combined across 4 games, who the * does that  

 

If you actually wanted to save wickets Dhongi should've come up ahead of HP or Pant!

 

If you actually wanted to save wickets Dhongi should've come up ahead of HP or Pant!

Ravi sastrhi could have helped here with better strategy.

[R!TTER]

13 minutes ago, mikeypbadana86 said:

Jadhav was a trundler and substandard batter . 

 

You mean this guy?

Primary team India

Start of match date between 1 Jan 2019 and 31 Jul 2019

Involving any of the players KM Jadhav (IND)  or RR Pant (IND)

Qualifications runs scored greater than or equal to 200

Ordered by batting average (descending)

Overall figures

Player	Mat	Runs	HS	Bat Av	100	Wkts	BBI	Bowl Av	5	Ct	St	Ave Diff
V Kohli	18	947	123	55.70	2	-	-	-	-	13	0	-
MS Dhoni	16	494	87*	54.88	0	-	-	-	-	10	7	-
RG Sharma	20	1028	140	54.10	5	-	-	-	-	7	0	-
KM Jadhav	17	370	81*	46.25	0	5	1/17	64.00	0	6	0	-17.74
KL Rahul	10	387	111	43.00	1	-	-	-	-	2	0	-
S Dhawan	13	513	143	42.75	2	-	-	-	-	3	0	-
AT Rayudu	8	223	90	37.16	0	-	-	-	-	2	0	-
HH Pandya	12	287	48	31.88	0	14	3/60	39.78	0	5	0	-7.89
V Shankar	12	223	46	31.85	0	4	2/15	52.50	0	7	0	-20.64

 

Or this one?

Primary team India

Start of match date between 1 May 2019 and 31 Jul 2019

Involving any of the players KM Jadhav (IND)  or RR Pant (IND)

Qualifications runs scored greater than or equal to 50

Ordered by batting average (descending)

Overall figures

Player	Mat	Runs	HS	Bat Av	100	Wkts	BBI	Bowl Av	5	Ct	St	Ave Diff
RG Sharma	9	648	140	81.00	5	-	-	-	-	4	0	-
RA Jadeja	2	77	77	77.00	0	2	1/34	37.00	0	3	0	40.00
S Dhawan	2	125	117	62.50	1	-	-	-	-	0	0	-
V Kohli	9	443	82	55.37	0	-	-	-	-	6	0	-
MS Dhoni	9	273	56*	45.50	0	-	-	-	-	7	3	-
KL Rahul	9	361	111	45.12	1	-	-	-	-	1	0	-
KM Jadhav	6	80	52	40.00	0	0	-	-	0	4	0	-
HH Pandya	9	226	48	32.28	0	10	3/60	44.70	0	3	0	-12.41
RR Pant	4	116	48	29.00	0	-	-	-	-	1	0	-
V Shankar	3	58	29	29.00	0	2	2/22	11.00	0	2	0	18.00

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For all the bluster or self flagellation Drunken Master indulges himself into, he was easily worse than a grade A moron. Had absolutely no plans to stick to Jadhav during the WC, gave him no more than 2-3 innings across 6 games & his plan A/B/C were always top 3 or bust. And yes BRat was also responsible - the cap cannot shrug off his responsibility in this 

Edited March 16, 2025 by R!TTER

[mikeypbadana86]

Its unfortunate Kohli did not have the best of tactial coach around him. Anil kumble was an agressive coach, Sasthri was supposed to be good. To be fair, like how India utilized slow/dry conditions of west indies/dubia to win two ICC tournaments, Conditions in England were either conducive to Eng/NZ which is why they played the final eliminating AUS/IND. I agree with you, ravi shastri could have helped better with team tactics. Having said that, a young inzaman played a blinder in 1992 semis scoring 60 off 37 balls. A run ball innings either by pandya/pant would have given better odds to Team India. Some times, its how the players respond to preassure/given situation. 

 

Suraykumar yadav underperformed in 2023 ODI world cup and won us the 2024 t20 final with a brilliant catch. KL rahul cost us 2023 ODI final while he played two crucial innings in semis and final in 2025 CT. Its up to the players to deliver . Unfortunately kohli's sample size is single ODI world cup 

[R!TTER]

His sample size is 3, or 4 if you include WTC - CT 2017, WC 2019 & 2021 WT20 & in both CT as well as WC his captaincy/squad selection was way below par. The 2021 WT20 was totally toss dependent so can't blame him for that, but again for WTC he ignored the rains & overall green pitch although at the time I was in favor of playing our two best players (RJ+Ashwin) together.

[mikeypbadana86]

2 hours ago, R!TTER said:

His sample size is 3, or 4 if you include WTC - CT 2017, WC 2019 & 2021 WT20 & in both CT as well as WC his captaincy/squad selection was way below par. The 2021 WT20 was totally toss dependent so can't blame him for that, but again for WTC he ignored the rains & overall green pitch although at the time I was in favor of playing our two best players (RJ+Ashwin) together.

WTC final 2021. india was in a great position for draw, rishab pant threw it away. 2017 CT even pak captain was willing to bowl had he won the toss, very unfortunate that bumrah got fakhar out on a no-ball. small margin but huge impact on result.