Mayank Yadav set to miss at least first half of IPL

[deathmonger]

23 hours ago, Lone Wolf said:

Mayank was bowling 145+ pace and around 148-149ks top speed with ridiculous accuracy and bounce and was virtually unhittable by Bangla batters.

I think he was not 100% in those 3 games but was still a notch above our every young pacer.

 

He will only get better & it is a scary proposition what he can do while being Fully fit and  ready to go.

Thing is Mayank is a freak just like Kuldeep.

 

Kuldeep is a wrist spinner but there have been very few wrist spinners in history with that sort of accuracy. Now that he has even provided a great KO performance, I hope he goes on a great 7-8 year run.

 

Mayank is not just pacy, he has insane accuracy which a lot of tearaway quicks simply do not possess.

 

He is the most promising Indian pacer since Bumrah. Harshit is solid too but I see him more as a no 2.

[tapandrun]

2 hours ago, AKane said:

That is the million dollar question.

 

It started with an abdomen strain and is now a back stress whatever.... so nobody really knows what the injury is.

 

They should have not messed with the action - just treated the abdomen strain. With the changed action and run up, it seems the entire body is breaking down.

Going by past records looks like they have messed it up big time and do not know how to bring it in public.

Mayank is 150+kmph bowler and which is his usp and easily noticeable by general public, every1 is looking for what he is clocking on speedometer so it becomes obvious when he is not bowling 150+kmph  

[singhvivek141]

2 hours ago, putrevus said:

So him playing in England series is out of question now.

If he will be treated by NCA.

They will keep on changing his action till he become a 125 kph useless like Jaydev Unadkut.

BCCI should consult him to some foreign doctors in Australia. Our NCA babus with bloated tummy's are more interested in finding what's there for the breakfast, lunch, high tea and dinner.

Edited March 12 by singhvivek141

[Need4Speed]

6 hours ago, rkt.india said:

Jaiswal, Abhishek are more popular faces than him.

Abhishek getting there..one more blockbuster IPL season from him..fns will go crazy for him

[Need4Speed]

2 hours ago, deathmonger said:

Thing is Mayank is a freak just like Kuldeep.

 

Kuldeep is a wrist spinner but there have been very few wrist spinners in history with that sort of accuracy. Now that he has even provided a great KO performance, I hope he goes on a great 7-8 year run.

 

Mayank is not just pacy, he has insane accuracy which a lot of tearaway quicks simply do not possess.

 

He is the most promising Indian pacer since Bumrah. Harshit is solid too but I see him more as a no 2.

Agreed but if he can show more maturity with his batting..Harshit can even trump Mayank for a place in xi..as we already have Boom,Varun,Bishnoi,Arshdeep,Kuldeep who cant bat..

A fit 150+ kph Mayank is very lethal..But he will have to compete with Arshdeep in that case..in SENA conditions..or may be when Boom is resting he will get chances..

 

I am primarily talking about T20s here..

Edited March 12 by Need4Speed

[deathmonger]

4 hours ago, Need4Speed said:

Agreed but if he can show more maturity with his batting..Harshit can even trump Mayank for a place in xi..as we already have Boom,Varun,Bishnoi,Arshdeep,Kuldeep who cant bat..

A fit 150+ kph Mayank is very lethal..But he will have to compete with Arshdeep in that case..in SENA conditions..or may be when Boom is resting he will get chances..

 

I am primarily talking about T20s here..

Yeah. Boom will anyways retire max by say 2031 (that WC may be his last assignment) so these three can rotate amongst themselves post then cause they are pretty young.

 

I'd say once Mayank returns, make him a T20 (and maybe ODI) bowler for a few years just so his body gets acclimatized. 

 

Boom can just play tests as well as tournament white ball (26,27,28 X 2 (Olympics),29,30,31). Boom will be 36 by the 2031 WC. 

[Ultimate_Game]

9 hours ago, tapandrun said:

Going by past records looks like they have messed it up big time and do not know how to bring it in public.

Mayank is 150+kmph bowler and which is his usp and easily noticeable by general public, every1 is looking for what he is clocking on speedometer so it becomes obvious when he is not bowling 150+kmph  

 

9 hours ago, singhvivek141 said:

If he will be treated by NCA.

They will keep on changing his action till he become a 125 kph useless like Jaydev Unadkut.

BCCI should consult him to some foreign doctors in Australia. Our NCA babus with bloated tummy's are more interested in finding what's there for the breakfast, lunch, high tea and dinner.

 

This is what scares me, i.e. Mayank is being treated and managed by hacks at NCA instead of specialists in Eng or Aus. I hope BCCI send him to a specialist to make sure he recovers fully instead of him spending time at NCA, which won't be helpful going by NCA's past record.

 

I'm not aware of a single bowler who has improved or been rehabilitated after spending time at NCA. Mayank will spend 6 months at NCA, come back, get re-injured and the vicious cycle will continue to repeat. Better to look for specialists and experts in sports medicine instead of sifarshi folks at NCA.

[Lone Wolf]

Reports are saying Umran may also miss intial IPL games at least for KKR.

NCA is yet to give him Green Light.  

[singhvivek141]

11 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

Reports are saying Umran may also miss intial IPL games at least for KKR.

NCA is yet to give him Green Light.  

Both express pacers are gone.

Third one Tyagi too is recovering.

Trundlers galore this IPL would be..

[singhvivek141]

12 hours ago, deathmonger said:

Thing is Mayank is a freak just like Kuldeep.

 

Kuldeep is a wrist spinner but there have been very few wrist spinners in history with that sort of accuracy. Now that he has even provided a great KO performance, I hope he goes on a great 7-8 year run.

 

Mayank is not just pacy, he has insane accuracy which a lot of tearaway quicks simply do not possess.

 

He is the most promising Indian pacer since Bumrah. Harshit is solid too but I see him more as a no 2.

 

Mayank, Harshit are the two pacers who are under 25 years of age and if handled well could serve us longer.

Prasidh, Akashdeep, Sen etc are in 28-29 range...so at best short term prospects.

 

Gurnoor & Yudhvir are two more potentials, Gurnoor is 24-25 so has that advantage.

[Need4Speed]

1 hour ago, Lone Wolf said:

Reports are saying Umran may also miss intial IPL games at least for KKR.

NCA is yet to give him Green Light.  

TBH..I wasnt expecting KKR to play Umran in the initial matches anyways...They already have these bowlers as for sure starters:

 

Narine

V C'worthy

Andre Russel

Harshit Rana

Vaibhav Arora

Nortje\Spencer Johnson

 

Umran may only play if one of Arora\Harshit is resting..so probably was expecting he will be given chance during midway anyways..

[putrevus]

9 hours ago, singhvivek141 said:

 

Mayank, Harshit are the two pacers who are under 25 years of age and if handled well could serve us longer.

Prasidh, Akashdeep, Sen etc are in 28-29 range...so at best short term prospects.

 

Gurnoor & Yudhvir are two more potentials, Gurnoor is 24-25 so has that advantage.

How many of them can bowl in test cricket.

 

Akashdeep proved he is not good enough,Harshit in short career falls in the same boat.

 

Prasidh and others have long way to go.

 

If Bumrah is unfit for England series, it would be a massacre like 2011.

[tapandrun]

1 hour ago, putrevus said:

How many of them can bowl in test cricket.

 

Akashdeep proved he is not good enough,Harshit in short career falls in the same boat.

 

Prasidh and others have long way to go.

 

If Bumrah is unfit for England series, it would be a massacre like 2011.

 

sen and yudhvir are two. sen has all the ingredients- economical run-up, easy action, bowls close to the stump and mainly take ball away from from rh batter and can target stumps.  yudhvir plays red-ball for jk has some pace and bounce.

 

rest mostly look white-ball 

 

 

 

[putrevus]

29 minutes ago, tapandrun said:

 

sen and yudhvir are two. sen has all the ingredients- economical run-up, easy action, bowls close to the stump and mainly take ball away from from rh batter and can target stumps.  yudhvir plays red-ball for jk has some pace and bounce.

 

rest mostly look white-ball 

 

 

 

Hope you are right about those two.

 

 

[tapandrun]

Just now, putrevus said:

Hope you are right about those two.

 

 

had hopes with rana and akash deep, akash dropped pace in 1st season it self, rana is more inclined to white-ball cricket adding those slower ones etc.

 

picked sen an yudhvir because they have ingredients for test cricket, rest does not seem to have those.

 

to bowl fast at test level bowler needs smooth rum-up  where energy is not going in run-up but in the arm speed and bowling stride. and they should not break down.

as soon as a fast bowler start getting injured they are no good. these 2 have those signs but only giving chances will tell more

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[singhvivek141]

2 hours ago, putrevus said:

How many of them can bowl in test cricket.

 

Akashdeep proved he is not good enough,Harshit in short career falls in the same boat.

 

Prasidh and others have long way to go.

 

If Bumrah is unfit for England series, it would be a massacre like 2011.

Harshit can, too early to pull a plug.

Mayank has skills, fitness hopefully he works on it.

Many fast bowlers struggle overseas in their first tour. Shami was absolutely trash in Eng & Nz on his first test

Journey

[tapandrun]

2 minutes ago, singhvivek141 said:

Harshit can, too early to pull a plug.

Mayank has skills, fitness hopefully he works on it.

Many fast bowlers struggle overseas in their first tour. Shami was absolutely trash in Eng & Nz on his first test

Journey

having bad tour is something but not able to keep your self injury free for 2 back to back test is something else.

most new ind fast bowler  are getting injured every second test.

 

[singhvivek141]

11 minutes ago, tapandrun said:

having bad tour is something but not able to keep your self injury free for 2 back to back test is something else.

most new ind fast bowler  are getting injured every second test.

 

Harshit wasn't injured IMO.

Since he didn't perfom as per expectations in second test, he was dropped for Akashdeep. 

 

Harshit in general has been fit.

[putrevus]

26 minutes ago, singhvivek141 said:

Harshit can, too early to pull a plug.

Mayank has skills, fitness hopefully he works on it.

Many fast bowlers struggle overseas in their first tour. Shami was absolutely trash in Eng & Nz on his first test

Journey

Shami was trash but we don't want to repeat the same thing again. After 2018 we thought Indian fast bowlers have now discovered the ability to bowl 20 overs /day at a reasonable pace with decent eco rate. That was the case even in 2021 Australian tour.Where they pickup 20 wickets with lot of new comers.

 

Instead of using that experience and implement the neccessary changes in the infrastructure to build on that we have come back to square one. This will lead to same unending cycles where Indian team will not even compete in SENA countries.

 

There will be no place to hide for fast bowlers in June.They will get brutally exposed.

 

 

People underestimated the importance of Bharat Arun, Siraj too blossomed under his guidance in Hyderabad.

 

Instead of making him incharge of NCA , Dravid and Laxman who have no clue had been running the show.

 

I don't know what kind of results will Morkel get, so far he has been very poor.

 

Edited March 13 by putrevus

[AKane]

1 hour ago, tapandrun said:

having bad tour is something but not able to keep your self injury free for 2 back to back test is something else.

most new ind fast bowler  are getting injured every second test.

 

Since this thread is about Mayank ..... he has played one first class match in his career. He has yet to play a "second" first class match never mind test.

 

He is getting injured after 2 T20 matches not every second test or FC match.

 

Now imagine bowling 20 overs in a day and 30 overs in an inning in a test match while fielding all day.... long way to go.

Edited March 13 by AKane