Jaffar Express Train hijacked by Baloch Liberation Army in Bolan of Balochistan

[ravishingravi]

34 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

India should have invested heavily in its own Military Industrial complex.. only way we can get Balochistan break away from Pakistan if we attack Punjab and Sindh.  This will also give us a shot in reclaiming PoK.

 

This should be the goal at least 10-15 years from now.  

India will have to balkanize Pakistan sooner maybe before 2035.

 

Question. Why do you want to reclaim PoK ? If demographic mess is not screwed up enough already. 

[Lone Wolf]

2 hours ago, ravishingravi said:

 

Question. Why do you want to reclaim PoK ? If demographic mess is not screwed up enough already. 

Link to Central Asia .. another front against China/trade route via Khunjeryab pass.  Tourism factor, buffer state, control of water bodies.

Plenty of reasons.

It may be useless to us right now but 20-25 years down the line it will be worth taking over... Maybe even divide it with China or establish spheres of influence type thingy.

[Lone Wolf]

2 hours ago, jf1gp_1 said:

We have our own issues. Last thing we want is active participation in someone else's war. 

Basically we will have to attack Pakistan at its weakest or we will miss the window altogether.  They will 100% give us an opportunity in next 15-20 years we just have to be ready and prepared to take it.

 

I do know currently we lack capability to overwhelm them completely but it will change if we course correct and invest in our own MIC... It only needs to be half as good as Chinese & Pakistan is toast.

We cannot achieve wealth without a powerful military, given the complex geopolitical situation in this region and the broader world of our interest.

Edited March 15 by Lone Wolf

[jf1gp_1]

5 hours ago, Lone Wolf said:

Basically we will have to attack Pakistan at its weakest or we will miss the window altogether.  They will 100% give us an opportunity in next 15-20 years we just have to be ready and prepared to take it.

 

I do know currently we lack capability to overwhelm them completely but it will change if we course correct and invest in our own MIC... It only needs to be half as good as Chinese & Pakistan is toast.

We cannot achieve wealth without a powerful military, given the complex geopolitical situation in this region and the broader world of our interest.

What will we achieve by attacking pakistan?

[Lone Wolf]

11 minutes ago, jf1gp_1 said:

What will we achieve by attacking pakistan?

Undisputed control of South Asia... Finally our geopolitical influence will go beyond South Asia... Insane power projection throughout West and Central Asia.

Assuming we finally dismember Pakistan once and for all and completely balkanize it.

 

India cannot realise its full potential without ultimately destroying Pakistan as a nation state.  It will be the end of Western hegemony in South Asia and The Great Game  set up by Brits  nearly 100 years ago will finally have its conclusion.  

Edited March 15 by Lone Wolf

[ravishingravi]

 

This guy was very good in explaining what's playing out. 

[ravishingravi]

Imp podcast 

 

 

[AuxiliA]

Another one down.

 

https://www.news18.com/world/abu-qatal-killed-most-wanted-terrorist-lashkar-e-taiba-terrorist-killed-in-pakistan-9263062.html

[AuxiliA]

This just in. Pulwama style suicide attack on Pak military convoy bus in Balochistan. Plus they faced additional ambush firing too.

 

BLA claiming 90 dead but Pak govt says only 7 died lol. 

 

Looking at the blast video and the complete obliteration of the bus all of it's occupants would have certainly died for sure, which would be way more than just 7. Nearby vehicles would have suffered damages too. Not to mention the ambush firing. 

 

 

https://www.newsx.com/world/video-baloch-liberation-army-claims-attack-on-pakistani-military-convoy-officials-confirm-7-dead/

 

Edited March 16 by AuxiliA

[AuxiliA]

 

 

 

 

[Lone Wolf]

Another  attack BLA claiming 90 dead. ISPR hiding casualties even if number is in between them it is good enough 

 

[AuxiliA]

 

[AuxiliA]

^Like the sound designs of propaganda videos released by the BLA. Feels like watching a trailer of the Dark Knight trilogy series. 

[mishra]

The Pakistani military has not given any voice to Balochs. Complete Media blackout has been put in place in Balochistan  for over 3-5 Years. Their people have been turning missing people as soon as they raise voice. Pakistani Punjabi media call them terrorists if they ask for the missng people

Balochs say they have executed all 214 army/military personnel of Jaffer express.

Now they have blown the Bus route also

Think time is up for Pakistanis.

Edited March 17 by mishra

[Serpico]

Anyone else thinks this is orchestrated/encouraged by CIA? US is preparing for a war in Iran and Balochistan shares border with Iran. If situation goes out of control then Pak army may 'request' US to set-up a camp in baloch which can be used in the Iranian war later

[mishra]

19 minutes ago, Serpico said:

Anyone else thinks this is orchestrated/encouraged by CIA? US is preparing for a war in Iran and Balochistan shares border with Iran. If situation goes out of control then Pak army may 'request' US to set-up a camp in baloch which can be used in the Iranian war later

No. Its more clearer to me. I have opinion that if Iran doesn’t gives up its nukes, Balochistan as Nation will be created and that Nation of Balochistan will have permanent land dispute with Iran claiming some of Iranian held territory.

 

Why: Because low intensity war is minuscule price of having nuke. Haathi paaloge to khilane ki auqaat honi chahiye. Same is True for atomi taaqat nxt door

Edited March 18 by mishra

[Muloghonto]

On 3/15/2025 at 1:32 AM, ravishingravi said:

 

Question. Why do you want to reclaim PoK ? If demographic mess is not screwed up enough already. 

Reclaiming Pok means reclaiming Khunjerab pass. Which means China is cut off from Pakistan via direct land bridge.

Even if PoK was infested with Al-Shabab or Boko Haram to a 100% degree, THIS fact alone makes it worthwhile to have, even as a poison pill. But in reality, PoK people, like most of the northernmost Pak people, are high mountain dwellers with little to no severe religious fanaticism of any sort - the Hunza, Chitralis, Baltis, etc. all mirror each other, which is basically they are your average high himalayan people who are busy with himalayan life 99% of the time and come together for religion or new years 5 times a year.

yes, the mirpuri punjabis are a problem and they would be the actual poison-pill to swallow or only other option is ethnic cleansing-both quite unpalatable is probably why it hasnt been done yet.

Pakistan, like India knows the reality of nuclear bluff : a limited war is very difficult to justify a first strike with and India knows it can get back PoK conventionally if it was willing to pay the price in bodies ( tens of thousands of soldiers dead would be the cost).

overall, India's strategic interest is to cut off its arch-rival ( Paksitan) from its biggest geo-political competitor (China) from having direct land link.

That is the value of PoK and that is also why Pakistan went blitzkreig for PoK in the first place.

 

[Muloghonto]

8 hours ago, Serpico said:

Anyone else thinks this is orchestrated/encouraged by CIA? US is preparing for a war in Iran and Balochistan shares border with Iran. If situation goes out of control then Pak army may 'request' US to set-up a camp in baloch which can be used in the Iranian war later

If it is, then they are the stupidest people on the planet or the smartest : they either want to lose the war or make it a never-ending war and loot trillions of public money funding the war.

Because Baluchistan is the stupidest place on the planet to invade Iran from.I dont believe its ever been done in history and for good reason : Balochistan ITSELF is an extremely rugged terrain of sharp craggy tree-less mountains interspersed with desert plains and a few seasonal river fed valleys, leading into....Dast-e-Lut, the biggest sand desert in Iran, which THEN leads to either Kerman province, the start of Zagrosi iran or into even further hell of Dast-e-Kavir salt desert and then into Iranian Khorasan/Mazarandan/Hamadan region.

Allegedly, this is the route Alexander the great took returning from India and lost 80% of his army.

So....why the heck would you do this if your plan is to invade Iran ??? If you want to invade Iran, do it the smart way, the way its been done through all of history : either use central Asia or Arabia as launchpad : go invade via Syria/Saudi/Iraq route like Romans & Arabs have done, or go sit in Uzbekistan, build up and whack in from Nishapur axis like....pretty much all central Asians have done.

If you are murrica, obviously central Asia door is closed due to Roos and Cheen being Papa and Mama of Central Asia

And Syria is still on fire.

So...Saudi + Iraq. go Invade via Basra to Khuzestan Axis, win there, blow up Ishfahan and Iran surrenders. THAT is the game plan- yes, Saddam lost doing this game-plan but he failed in execution, rather than in strategy. This is still the only sane way for a non Roos-friendly power to beat Iran.

 

If Trumpwa's plan is to blowup Iran via Balochistan, i would say this plan makes about as much sense as trying to kill a tiger by starting with its tail first.

 

[mishra]

^ What if you don’t want to antagonise India by supporting Pakistan. Reduce the cost associated to hire Afghani and Balochs by cutting out Pakjabistan military. Create never ending dispute between Pakistan Afghanistan and Balochistan Iran with Balochistan Afghanista as one Team.
 

Block Chinese entry into Arabian sea (CPEC) And Get India on your side for good. 
 

Everything else like fighters, arms and terrain can be managed by money and Tech.

Edited March 18 by mishra

[Muloghonto]

3 minutes ago, mishra said:

^ What if you don’t want to antagonise India by supporting Pakistan. Reduce the cost associated to hire Afghani and Balochs by cutting out Pakjabistan military. Create never ending dispute between Pakistan Afghanistan and Balochistan Iran with Balochistan Afghanista as one Team.
 

Block Chinese entry into Arabian sea (CPEC) And Get India on your side for good. 
 

Everything else like fighters, arms and terrain can be managed by money and Tech.

 

As i said, this is chicken/egg thing with balancing this or that and US usually has poor track record of showing geopolitical finesse.  If the whole idea is to blow up India's Chabahar to China's Gwadar into a hot-mess, sure, but that only pulls together india, china, pakistan,iran to solve baluchistan permanently all 4 benefit and it becomes kurdistan situation all over again - everyone in region is bigger and badder than it and everyone wants it dead.

 

But yes, i would say from the armchair eye, if your objective is to blow up the region into intercene war, this is how you'd go about it. But if your objective is to one day invade Iran via this area of instability, its the stupidest place on the planet to create instability to launchpad into an invasion of iran.

 

So lets see.