Is Rohit Sharma the greatest 6 hitter in the history of cricket ?

[Ultimate_Game]

11 minutes ago, Aiden said:

No body comes close to Afridi. He started the trend

 

If you're looking for trend setter, Jayasuriya was the one who did it. Likes of Afridi came in coz of the success Jayasuriya and SL had.

[neel roy]

3 hours ago, Ultimate_Game said:

 

If you're looking for trend setter, Jayasuriya was the one who did it. Likes of Afridi came in coz of the success Jayasuriya and SL had.

Actual trendsetter was a batsman called mark gretbatch of nz in 1992 world cup. He showed what can be done in first 10 overs with fielders inside the circle. He was the prime reason nz played so well in the world cup with martin crowe following him..

[raki05]

13 hours ago, Lord said:

Stats wise yes but this guy used to hit huge sixes with small bat and big boundaries

 

 

Most of his sixes were on halwa bowling, spinners or trundler. There is a reason you never seen his aggression on 140 and above bowlers. Denis leelee and jeff thomsan has upper hand against viv. He was good at smashing eng, aus and nz trundlers. Sharma has hit effortless sixes against best fastest bowlers in his time.If you show six compilation like this Kapil also has such compilation he has hit such sixes against Donald as well fastest bowler during his retirement time.

Edited March 21 by raki05

[First class]

17 hours ago, Lord said:

Stats wise yes but this guy used to hit huge sixes with small bat and big boundaries

 

 

There won't be another like him , he was the ultimate master blaster . Most gifted batter ever to play the game . Was in league of his own. 

Edited March 22 by First class

[First class]

3 hours ago, raki05 said:

Most of his sixes were on halwa bowling, spinners or trundler. There is a reason you never seen his aggression on 140 and above bowlers. Denis leelee and jeff thomsan has upper hand against viv. He was good at smashing eng, aus and nz trundlers. Sharma has hit effortless sixes against best fastest bowlers in his time.If you show six compilation like this Kapil also has such compilation he has hit such sixes against Donald as well fastest bowler during his retirement time.

Not impressed with your knowledge of the game , or you being too biased. 

[Zero_Unit]

It's not Gayle? Am super surprised. Gayle hit them 6's like its nothing

[rangeelaraja]

1 hour ago, First class said:

There won't be another like him , he was the ultimate master blaster . Most gifted batter ever to play the game . Was in league of his own. 

 

1 hour ago, First class said:

Not impressed with your knowledge of the game , or you being too biased. 

 

You try and bring in a slogger like Afridi in a comparison of great six hitting batsmen and then talk about bias.

 

"Most gifted  ever " and all is just nostalgia and other bs.  It has nothing to do with reality. Undoubtedly he was great and a legend of his era but thats about it.

 

He never had to face his own bowling did he ?? His team had the strongest bowling attack.

 

There are atleast 3 batsmen that I can think as of as being more talented than Vivian Richards.  

 

 

[Gollum]

Viv had 47/90 stats in an era where 3.5 rpo was considered good.....think of it, even Sachin had inferior numbers despite playing in a more batting friendly era, that too in SENA his SR was in low 70s, average 30 odd. Viv dominated in a tough era for top order batsmen with red cherry (compare his stats with other top 3 batmen of his era), more relaxed bouncer rule, and he did that without wearing helmet. His best years were in Packer cricket, he lit that also on fire against elite competition. 

 

Stop disrespecting the legend. He is far far ahead of the rest of the white ball GOAT candidates. 

Edited March 22 by Gollum

[Gollum]

Before children here go on tirade against past era greats

 

 

Barry Richards holds the bat with which he made 325 at WACA in 1970 in right hand,Warner's modern-day weapon in left pic.twitter.com/3L6eURphUJ

— Cricketopia (@CricketopiaCom) July 5, 2016

[nevada]

4 minutes ago, Gollum said:

Viv had 47/90 stats in an era where 3.5 rpo was considered good.....think of it, even Sachin had inferior numbers despite playing in a more batting friendly era, that too in SENA his SR was in low 70s, average 30 odd. Viv dominated in a tough era for top order batsmen with red cherry (compare his stats with other top 3 batmen of his era), more relaxed bouncer rule, and he did that without wearing helmet. His best years were in Packer cricket, he lit that also on fire against elite competition. 

 

Stop disrespecting the legend. He is far far ahead of the rest of the white ball GOAT candidates. 

Comparison across eras is flawed. In Viv's time lofting the ball over the bowler's head was a big deal. It didn't matter whether the ball landed within the boundary or beyond. It was beizzati for the bowler to be hit like that. With today's bats and shorter boundaries, Viv would have definitely scored more sixers.

On the flip side, computer data and analytics would have been used to identify and exploit his weaknesses, one of which was vulnerability against the in coming delivery. In his time, with a mighty attack at his disposal, the opposition was shared  to unleash bouncer barrage against him. With the pop gun attack West Indies have now, that might not longer be the case.

That's why comparison of yesteryear players to today's ones will never result in a conclusive debate. The only conclusive conclusion can be that Rohit is head and shoulders above his peers and so was Viv. 

[Gollum]

4 minutes ago, nevada said:

Comparison across eras is flawed. In Viv's time lofting the ball over the bowler's head was a big deal. It didn't matter whether the ball landed within the boundary or beyond. It was beizzati for the bowler to be hit like that. With today's bats and shorter boundaries, Viv would have definitely scored more sixers.

On the flip side, computer data and analytics would have been used to identify and exploit his weaknesses, one of which was vulnerability against the in coming delivery. In his time, with a mighty attack at his disposal, the opposition was shared  to unleash bouncer barrage against him. With the pop gun attack West Indies have now, that might not longer be the case.

That's why comparison of yesteryear players to today's ones will never result in a conclusive debate. The only conclusive conclusion can be that Rohit is head and shoulders above his peers and so was Viv. 

But that isn't true. Viv was far ahead of his peers while the top guys today are lumped together. 

Edited March 22 by Gollum

[nevada]

7 minutes ago, Gollum said:

Before children here go on tirade against past era greats

 

 

I watched a live match of his on TV. He was 45 or something and played in a master's tournament in Sharjah or maybe it was in India itself, I don't remember correctly. He came in to bat, looked a bit rusty but got set and scored a century within no time. Great sportsmen impose their sheer will on the game no matter how crappy or out of sorts they might be feeling on a given day. I feel lucky to have watched him bat live! 

[Gollum]

Just now, nevada said:

I watched a live match of his on TV. He was 45 or something and played in a master's tournament in Sharjah or maybe it was in India itself, I don't remember correctly. He came in to bat, looked a bit rusty but got set and scored a century within no time. Great sportsmen impose their sheer will on the game no matter how crappy or out of sorts they might be feeling on a given day. I feel lucky to have watched him bat live! 

Him and Graeme Pollock would have been GOAT contenders if not for apartheid. In fact that RSA team of 70s/80s would have pushed WI to the brink. Testament to their bench strength and domestic quality that when they returned after almost 25 years ban/boycott, they still were top 2/3 team in the world. 

[Trichromatic]

Modern day bats have made huge difference in six hitting.

 

Same shots which go for six now, won't travel that far if played with bats of 80s.

 

But overall it's a mix of many factors - better bats, attitude of players, practice, skills.

[putrevus]

2 minutes ago, Trichromatic said:

Modern day bats have made huge difference in six hitting.

 

Same shots which go for six now, won't travel that far if played with bats of 80s.

 

But overall it's a mix of many factors - better bats, attitude of players, practice, skills.

The power game has gone too crazy with these bats.Batsman are having too much advantage.

 

 

[Lord]

18 hours ago, raki05 said:

Most of his sixes were on halwa bowling, spinners or trundler. There is a reason you never seen his aggression on 140 and above bowlers. Denis leelee and jeff thomsan has upper hand against viv. He was good at smashing eng, aus and nz trundlers. Sharma has hit effortless sixes against best fastest bowlers in his time.If you show six compilation like this Kapil also has such compilation he has hit such sixes against Donald as well fastest bowler during his retirement time.

 

Sharma's sixes are with much bigger bats and half the boundaries.And pitches are mostly flat.I see Viv succeeding in today's era but can't say vice versa.

 

Ofcourse even Afridi has hit sixes but Viv was not muscling them. Even proper shots went for huge sixes

 

 

[raki05]

5 hours ago, Lord said:

 

Sharma's sixes are with much bigger bats and half the boundaries.And pitches are mostly flat.I see Viv succeeding in today's era but can't say vice versa.

 

Ofcourse even Afridi has hit sixes but Viv was not muscling them. Even proper shots went for huge sixes

 

 

Most of Sharma sixes are huge that goes 88 meter boundaries…. If VIv was playing with thin bat than against him argument is odi cricket were not seeious cricket , mostvof his sixes were against trundlers and spinners of eng, sl, nz and aussies trundler. His performance against 2 of the fastes bowlers in his time were not so great even in test less said about odi which was not a serious cricket. Other than windies most other teams has mediocre fast bowlers. He dint face stark, cummins, hazzlewood, boult kind of bowlers in those odis.

[Zero_Unit]

15 hours ago, Gollum said:

Before children here go on tirade against past era greats

 

 

The grith matters more than the size in many aspect of life ... same for cricket bats LOL

[Trichromatic]

16 hours ago, Lord said:

 

Sharma's sixes are with much bigger bats and half the boundaries.And pitches are mostly flat.I see Viv succeeding in today's era but can't say vice versa.

 

Ofcourse even Afridi has hit sixes but Viv was not muscling them. Even proper shots went for huge sixes

 

 

 

Smaller boundaries part is exaggerated.

 

Many stadiums were small earlier also.

[rkt.india]

13 hours ago, raki05 said:

Most of Sharma sixes are huge that goes 88 meter boundaries…. If VIv was playing with thin bat than against him argument is odi cricket were not seeious cricket , mostvof his sixes were against trundlers and spinners of eng, sl, nz and aussies trundler. His performance against 2 of the fastes bowlers in his time were not so great even in test less said about odi which was not a serious cricket. Other than windies most other teams has mediocre fast bowlers. He dint face stark, cummins, hazzlewood, boult kind of bowlers in those odis.

Boundaries have been same. Same ground used to look big before because six hitting wasn't there. Like Tendulkar's desert storm looked so great in the 90s but not anymore when we realized the boundaries were just 55 meters.