Mariyam Posted March 26 Posted March 26 (edited) @rangeelaraja IPC 499 and 500 do not apply here. IPC 504 could apply here, but isn't likely to stick. The thing is that primary Deputy CM Ajit Pawar has called secondary Deputy CM Shinde a Gaddar in the Vidhan Sabha. This is back when the undivided NCP was considered Dawood's party and a part of the MVA. Now the BJP is okay with allying with Dawood's agents! I digress. Back then Shinde said that these epithets do not bother him and we should ignore this. There are sound bytes and videos clippings of these. Now claiming defamation using the same epithet that too used in a comedy show song routine would be difficult. Kamra could simply claim that he thought calling Shinde Gaddar didn't hurt him and hence there is no malicious intent to defame/hurt. What the police will charge Kamra under are BNS 353: creating public mischief. I find it very odd that you have nothing to say about the wanton destruction of The Habitat Centre by Shiv Sena goons who outnumbered and bravely beat up the reception staff/ushers and then in a display of typical Shiv Sena bravery managed to beat up the tables and chairs at the venue. @Vickydev @Gollum This is one of the few venues which lends space to screening Chess events in the country. The owner Balraj Ghai didn't charge Sagar Shah for screening the World Championship games live over there. Obviously its far more convenient to vent against innocent venue owners and Kamra. The brave Sainiks become Gandhiwadis and turn the other cheek when Ajit Pawar uses the same words. ----------*----------------------------*----------------------------------- My views on the Shiv Sena are very clear. They are no better than Dawood (before his bomb blast days). Basic source of income has always been extortion. These days its labelled as 'donation' , but it is no different. Uddhav , Shinde and the OG Supremo are all just low level thugs who managed to elevate themselves to positions of power, 'othering' some community and winning elections in the process. Strange that you, a Gujarati, lend them support. They have instigated anti Gujarati riots in the early 60s. Riots against South Indians, then the Communists and then against Muslims. And finally against Biharis. What Bal Thackeray should be credited for is mainstreaming hate into Mahrashtra politics. Edited March 26 by Mariyam Gollum, Vickydev and Lord 1 2
New guy Posted March 26 Posted March 26 On 3/24/2025 at 1:04 PM, AuxiliA said: RWingers aren't hypocrites or frauds like the LeLis. Even the stupider ones are better than LeLis in this regard.. This has to be the biggest bald face lie on the planet. The fact that you had no shame typing this says a lot about you.
New guy Posted March 26 Posted March 26 5 hours ago, Muloghonto said: Liberalism is western ideology. All western ideologies are supercessionist. Meaning if u r old and u don't convert to new way u r evil. Christians did this to jooz. Then commies did this to Christians. Now libbus doing it to all. Hence why liberalism is in effect fascism. But not to worry. Rome wasn't built in a day. We will build ours once we kill this one. The one voting for actual facists with actual fascist policies, because you hope to get 2 more dollars into your pocket is writing paragraphs of how liberalism is facism. Irony died a thousand deaths. What's funny is I have no idea who this is supposed to fool. You clearly are educated enough to know what fascism is. You clearly voted for someone who is a clear example of a fascist with clear fascist policy. Then why the pretence and lie which won't even fool a 2 year old? Are you ashamed of what you are or too much of a coward to openly admit it?
AuxiliA Posted March 26 Posted March 26 16 minutes ago, New guy said: This has to be the biggest bald face lie on the planet. The fact that you had no shame typing this says a lot about you. Na. I choose the 2 words Hypocrites and Fraud extremely carefully. Indian RW might be dumb or lack nuance but Indian leftists have Phds in being hypocrites. They are frauds too because they don't practice what they preach and doesn't mind sleeping with extremists, from RW Jihadis, to Naxalites/Maoists to even Mafias in UP/Bihar, if it suits their political agenda. Communists rule in WB/Kerala has been notorious for political violence which would put even 90s Bihar to shame. A communist would be safer under Yogi's rule in UP than a Sanghi in Kerala/WB. Had Indian Leftists honestly practiced what they so regularly preach, I would still have been a leftist. Teengunalagaan, mishra, coffee_rules and 3 others 3 3
mishra Posted March 26 Posted March 26 (edited) 1 hour ago, Mariyam said: @rangeelaraja IPC 499 and 500 do not apply here. IPC 504 could apply here, but isn't likely to stick. The thing is that primary Deputy CM Ajit Pawar has called secondary Deputy CM Shinde a Gaddar in the Vidhan Sabha. This is back when the undivided NCP was considered Dawood's party and a part of the MVA. Now the BJP is okay with allying with Dawood's agents! I digress. Back then Shinde said that these epithets do not bother him and we should ignore this. There are sound bytes and videos clippings of these. Now claiming defamation using the same epithet that too used in a comedy show song routine would be difficult. Kamra could simply claim that he thought calling Shinde Gaddar didn't hurt him and hence there is no malicious intent to defame/hurt. What the police will charge Kamra under are BNS 353: creating public mischief. I find it very odd that you have nothing to say about the wanton destruction of The Habitat Centre by Shiv Sena goons who outnumbered and bravely beat up the reception staff/ushers and then in a display of typical Shiv Sena bravery managed to beat up the tables and chairs at the venue. @Vickydev @Gollum This is one of the few venues which lends space to screening Chess events in the country. The owner Balraj Ghai didn't charge Sagar Shah for screening the World Championship games live over there. Obviously its far more convenient to vent against innocent venue owners and Kamra. The brave Sainiks become Gandhiwadis and turn the other cheek when Ajit Pawar uses the same words. ----------*----------------------------*----------------------------------- My views on the Shiv Sena are very clear. They are no better than Dawood (before his bomb blast days). Basic source of income has always been extortion. These days its labelled as 'donation' , but it is no different. Uddhav , Shinde and the OG Supremo are all just low level thugs who managed to elevate themselves to positions of power, 'othering' some community and winning elections in the process. Strange that you, a Gujarati, lend them support. They have instigated anti Gujarati riots in the early 60s. Riots against South Indians, then the Communists and then against Muslims. And finally against Biharis. What Bal Thackeray should be credited for is mainstreaming hate into Mahrashtra politics. Two Observations: Dawood was just a piece for Sharad Pawar and his NCP ( pre NCP) politics of power. secondly, If law and justice system wasn’t incompetent and active player in great power game, people wouldn’t look into alternatives. Yes law and justice system isn’t good enough but its drivers (melords) have been equally involved in making it ineffective due to corruption. My opinion on me lords hasn’t come overnight. Been following them for years now Edited March 26 by mishra
mishra Posted March 26 Posted March 26 11 minutes ago, AuxiliA said: Na. I choose the 2 words Hypocrites and Fraud extremely carefully. Indian RW might be dumb or lack nuance but Indian leftists have Phds in being hypocrites. They are frauds too because they don't practice what they preach and doesn't mind sleeping with extremists, from RW Jihadis, to Naxalites/Maoists to even Mafias in UP/Bihar, if it suits their political agenda. Communists rule in WB/Kerala has been notorious for political violence which would put even 90s Bihar to shame. A communist would be safer under Yogi's rule in UP than a Sanghi in Kerala/WB. Had Indian Leftists honestly practiced what they so regularly preach, I would still have been a leftist. In india it’s mostly centrist who are against LW. There is negligible number of RWs diga 1
Vickydev Posted March 26 Posted March 26 1 hour ago, Mariyam said: @rangeelaraja IPC 499 and 500 do not apply here. IPC 504 could apply here, but isn't likely to stick. The thing is that primary Deputy CM Ajit Pawar has called secondary Deputy CM Shinde a Gaddar in the Vidhan Sabha. This is back when the undivided NCP was considered Dawood's party and a part of the MVA. Now the BJP is okay with allying with Dawood's agents! I digress. Back then Shinde said that these epithets do not bother him and we should ignore this. There are sound bytes and videos clippings of these. Now claiming defamation using the same epithet that too used in a comedy show song routine would be difficult. Kamra could simply claim that he thought calling Shinde Gaddar didn't hurt him and hence there is no malicious intent to defame/hurt. What the police will charge Kamra under are BNS 353: creating public mischief. I find it very odd that you have nothing to say about the wanton destruction of The Habitat Centre by Shiv Sena goons who outnumbered and bravely beat up the reception staff/ushers and then in a display of typical Shiv Sena bravery managed to beat up the tables and chairs at the venue. @Vickydev @Gollum This is one of the few venues which lends space to screening Chess events in the country. The owner Balraj Ghai didn't charge Sagar Shah for screening the World Championship games live over there. Obviously its far more convenient to vent against innocent venue owners and Kamra. The brave Sainiks become Gandhiwadis and turn the other cheek when Ajit Pawar uses the same words. ----------*----------------------------*----------------------------------- My views on the Shiv Sena are very clear. They are no better than Dawood (before his bomb blast days). Basic source of income has always been extortion. These days its labelled as 'donation' , but it is no different. Uddhav , Shinde and the OG Supremo are all just low level thugs who managed to elevate themselves to positions of power, 'othering' some community and winning elections in the process. Strange that you, a Gujarati, lend them support. They have instigated anti Gujarati riots in the early 60s. Riots against South Indians, then the Communists and then against Muslims. And finally against Biharis. What Bal Thackeray should be credited for is mainstreaming hate into Mahrashtra politics. Yup, the issue is with Kamra.. cancel him, file FIRs, whatever. Wrecking this place which offers numerous stand up comedian/artists a stage is just not done. Mariyam and coffee_rules 2
diga Posted March 26 Posted March 26 32 minutes ago, AuxiliA said: . A communist would be safer under Yogi's rule in UP than a Sanghi in Kerala/WB. MTC is a mallu and ask him how many RSS people still survive in mallu land ? raki05 and AuxiliA 1 1
AuxiliA Posted March 26 Posted March 26 15 minutes ago, mishra said: In india it’s mostly centrist who are against LW. There is negligible number of RWs The tragedy in India is that many educated Indians believe that liberalism is equal to Left. Indian Leftist leaders are all communists who are anything but liberal. They take inspiration from Stalin and Mao. But unlike Stalin and Mao who atleast took pride in their local native culture, Indian leftist leaders have deep rooted hatred for Hindu culture. India needed a strong centrist Congress, free from influence of Jihadis, missionaries and communists. But that ship has long sailed. diga, mishra, Teengunalagaan and 1 other 1 3
Teengunalagaan Posted March 26 Posted March 26 (edited) 6 hours ago, AuxiliA said: Na. I choose the 2 words Hypocrites and Fraud extremely carefully. Indian RW might be dumb or lack nuance but Indian leftists have Phds in being hypocrites. They are frauds too because they don't practice what they preach and doesn't mind sleeping with extremists, from RW Jihadis, to Naxalites/Maoists to even Mafias in UP/Bihar, if it suits their political agenda. Communists rule in WB/Kerala has been notorious for political violence which would put even 90s Bihar to shame. A communist would be safer under Yogi's rule in UP than a Sanghi in Kerala/WB. Had Indian Leftists honestly practiced what they so regularly preach, I would still have been a leftist. Leaving this here, I am in 100% agreement with Kushal Mehra, FOS is a joke in India, the parties and so called liberals who pose themselves to be the champions of FOS are the biggest hyporcrites. It was Jawharlal Nehru who moved the 1st ammendment to curb the FOS, and was only opposed by BJP's Syama Prasad Mukherjee. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Amendment_of_the_Constitution_of_India Coming to Kunal Kamra he is an ahole, I don't support what happened to him, but that doesn't mean I won't call out his hypocricy on what his opinions were when in the case of Kangana. He should be the last person to be talking about FOS. When you live with the bulldozer, you die with the bulldozer. I refuse to be like this guy. Despite his behaviour, I support his freedom to be a horrible person. pic.twitter.com/iSy4OQF6EU — कुशल मेहरा (@kushal_mehra) March 26, 2025 Where was the outrage in case of Ketaki Chitale, Saad Ansari, and Countless others. Why there is no outrage on Savukku Shankar, this has happened in Chennai under DMK and Congress, this is way worse than what happened to Kamra. Iss hamam me sabi nange hai, so all these so called liberals spare me the bs.. https://www.indiatoday.in/india/tamil-nadu/story/savukku-shankar-alleges-gang-threw-sewage-in-his-home-issued-threats-2698339-2025-03-24 Edited March 26 by Teengunalagaan AuxiliA, coffee_rules and raki05 3
coffee_rules Posted March 26 Posted March 26 (edited) 3 hours ago, Vickydev said: Yup, the issue is with Kamra.. cancel him, file FIRs, whatever. Wrecking this place which offers numerous stand up comedian/artists a stage is just not done. Agree, vandalizing someone else’s property is illegal and should be penalized. But the owner is also political. Such guys will get caught in retribution when ruling government changes. They should be neutral or diplomatic on their political stance. Edited March 26 by coffee_rules Teengunalagaan, mishra, randomGuy and 1 other 2 2
coffee_rules Posted March 26 Posted March 26 3 hours ago, AuxiliA said: The tragedy in India is that many educated Indians believe that liberalism is equal to Left. Indian Leftist leaders are all communists who are anything but liberal. They take inspiration from Stalin and Mao. But unlike Stalin and Mao who atleast took pride in their local native culture, Indian leftist leaders have deep rooted hatred for Hindu culture. India needed a strong centrist Congress, free from influence of Jihadis, missionaries and communists. But that ship has long sailed. Liberalism has gone left globally. Not just in India. It is the new communism. After the Stalin Maowala communists were defeated post 1990, the jobless commies have joined over to the liberals and taken over liberalism. Look at Congress now, can’t differentiate between them and CPI/M AuxiliA 1
Teengunalagaan Posted March 26 Posted March 26 He is not attacked because he cracked a joke against the govt, he is attacked for exposing the corruption, way worse.. and attacked in the most inhumane way.. Tamil YouTuber Savukku Shankar's Chennai home broken into, vandalised with sewage. India Today's @PramodMadhav6 speaks exclusively with @SavukkuOfficial#ReporterDiary #SavukkuShankar #Chennai pic.twitter.com/4SiU0MgpL6 — IndiaToday (@IndiaToday) March 25, 2025 coffee_rules, mishra, Lord and 1 other 1 1 2
coffee_rules Posted March 26 Posted March 26 14 hours ago, Muloghonto said: whataboutism isnt a fallacy when used in ethics, as whataboutism is the only ethical tool for legal consistency and lack of hypocrisy. Whataboutism is bullshit in actual empirical science. The **ENTIRE** field of ethics **IS** whataboutism, as what the hell else, technically speaking, is legal precedent, if not whataboutism ? Sure,legal precedents are not absolute, but they **ARE** default. Meaning whataboutism is default in ethics. Dont fall for nonsense western mumbo-jumbo that passes for western philosophy or ethics, its trash. Banana republic has benchmark. In most empirical benchmark TODAY, USA and entire west is closer to banana republic status than RoI and that is an empirical fact as i cited. In India you are not being jailed for views on foreign war, being culturally genocided on official basis or being yankee dehaat where we keep talking about FUNDAMENTAL ELIGIBILITY OF POTUS on paper as meeting criteria to've been president or any such nonsense. India is a banana republic only if you literally believe that Afghans and Ukrainians TODAY are happier than Indians as shown by world happiness index type of democracy rankings and nonsense western propaganda. India is a shining beacon of democracy the west has to copy, if you OPEN YOUR EYES TO EMPIRICAL REALITY LIKE MASTERS DEGREE HOLDING SCIENTISTS DO. The whole justice system is based on whataboutry. Lawyers , both prosecutors and defenders, argue cases for judges showing how a judgement was made in some falana preceding case. What about this case - state vs Mr Mehta on the embezzlement state funds case? raki05 and Muloghonto 1 1
mishra Posted March 26 Posted March 26 19 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: Agree, vandalizing someone else’s property is illegal and should be penalized. But the owner is also political. Such guys will get caught in retribution when ruling government changes. They should be neutral or diplomatic on their political stance. Ab Kangana ne bhi "Ukhaad Diya". Barabar raki05 and coffee_rules 2
coffee_rules Posted March 26 Posted March 26 (edited) 5 hours ago, Mariyam said: @rangeelaraja IPC 499 and 500 do not apply here. IPC 504 could apply here, but isn't likely to stick. The thing is that primary Deputy CM Ajit Pawar has called secondary Deputy CM Shinde a Gaddar in the Vidhan Sabha. This is back when the undivided NCP was considered Dawood's party and a part of the MVA. Now the BJP is okay with allying with Dawood's agents! I digress. Back then Shinde said that these epithets do not bother him and we should ignore this. There are sound bytes and videos clippings of these. Now claiming defamation using the same epithet that too used in a comedy show song routine would be difficult. Kamra could simply claim that he thought calling Shinde Gaddar didn't hurt him and hence there is no malicious intent to defame/hurt. What the police will charge Kamra under are BNS 353: creating public mischief. I find it very odd that you have nothing to say about the wanton destruction of The Habitat Centre by Shiv Sena goons who outnumbered and bravely beat up the reception staff/ushers and then in a display of typical Shiv Sena bravery managed to beat up the tables and chairs at the venue. @Vickydev @Gollum This is one of the few venues which lends space to screening Chess events in the country. The owner Balraj Ghai didn't charge Sagar Shah for screening the World Championship games live over there. Obviously its far more convenient to vent against innocent venue owners and Kamra. The brave Sainiks become Gandhiwadis and turn the other cheek when Ajit Pawar uses the same words. ----------*----------------------------*----------------------------------- My views on the Shiv Sena are very clear. They are no better than Dawood (before his bomb blast days). Basic source of income has always been extortion. These days its labelled as 'donation' , but it is no different. Uddhav , Shinde and the OG Supremo are all just low level thugs who managed to elevate themselves to positions of power, 'othering' some community and winning elections in the process. Strange that you, a Gujarati, lend them support. They have instigated anti Gujarati riots in the early 60s. Riots against South Indians, then the Communists and then against Muslims. And finally against Biharis. What Bal Thackeray should be credited for is mainstreaming hate into Mahrashtra politics. If Ajit Pawar has called him a gaddar , he is a politician and was probably the leader of opposition then. Whatever said within the Vidhana Sabha can’t be held liable in any court nor can it be used as a precedent. Even if not in VS, they are politicians and they keep throwing mud at each other, Kamra leeched koun hain bolne ko, is he registered party member of NCP or Shivsena (IT) to throw such insults? Aam junta has lesser rights than politicians in India. Just because Sonia called Modi maut ka saudagar, neech, I can’t use that as an excuse to call him same . I will be held for defamation. Only defense for Kachra is that he didn’t take any names and he meant someone else. Kachra is not a comedian, he is an anti-BJP or government activist. All his jokes have been about BJP, Modi, Hindus , that’s why he is hated the most . Public enemy #1 as of now. This also proves Shinde SENA has the moral (or immoral) rights to claim ownership of the original SS, based on the vandalism act. Totally condemnable and should be held liable for the damages caused!! Edited March 26 by coffee_rules
coffee_rules Posted March 26 Posted March 26 5 hours ago, New guy said: This has to be the biggest bald face lie on the planet. The fact that you had no shame typing this says a lot about you. How can you call yourself woke and do bald shaming? All bald people will cancel you.. raki05 and diga 2
mishra Posted March 26 Posted March 26 16 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: If Ajit Pawar has called him a gaddar , he is a politician and was probably the leader of opposition then. Whatever said within the Vidhana Sabha can’t be held liable in any court nor can it be used as a precedent. Even if not in VS, they are politicians and they keep throwing mud at each other, Kamra leeched koun hain bolne ko, is he registered party member of NCP or Shivsena (IT) to throw such insults? Aam junta has lesser rights than politicians in India. Just because Sonia called Modi maut ka saudagar, neech, I can’t use that as an excuse to call him same . I will be held for defamation. Only defense for Kachra is that he didn’t take any names and he meant someone else. Kachra is not a comedian, he is an anti-BJP or government activist. All his jokes have been about BJP, Modi, Hindus , that’s why he is hated the most . Public enemy #1 as of now. This also proves Shinde SENA has the moral (or immoral) rights to claim ownership of the original SS, based on the vandalism act. Totally condemnable and should be held liable for the damages caused!! Think This time, heat has reached him. But unless he goes into prison on pretext of something, Message will not reach the intended audience that fueling separatism, disrespecting pro culture, pro unity ,pro integration, pro Hindu people will not be tolerated, even if you are expert of Indian law with and Jamai Raja to CJI of India. because there are other ways to make you pay coffee_rules 1
Vickydev Posted March 26 Posted March 26 1 hour ago, coffee_rules said: Agree, vandalizing someone else’s property is illegal and should be penalized. But the owner is also political. Such guys will get caught in retribution when ruling government changes. They should be neutral or diplomatic on their political stance. Disappointing to see he mocked what happened to Kangana's home. But I still won't wish this on him. To hurt somebody's livelihood is so easy
coffee_rules Posted March 26 Posted March 26 11 minutes ago, Vickydev said: Disappointing to see he mocked what happened to Kangana's home. But I still won't wish this on him. To hurt somebody's livelihood is so easy He would have insured the place fully, so he is covered , I reckon. They have just damaged some tables and charis from what i saw in the videos. But, it will tough to fill up the place as comics might avoid the place. IMO, cuts the clutter and talented ones will survive Vickydev and mishra 2
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