India is going through transition period in the fast bowling department

[tapandrun]

1 minute ago, Norman said:

Did Kuldeep sen just disappear or what?

Think he is Pk this season

[singhvivek141]

5 hours ago, tapandrun said:

 

Bhumrah keeps getting injured

Shami is on last legs

Siraj is already declining

 

rana -- have been good so far

Arash -- donot think he can sustain pace 135+ kmph in odis

Pardish -- have been no improvement

Mayank-lets just not talked about him till he makes a comeback/recover for never ending injuries

Akash-- After 1st game does not looked the same bowler

 

Need a proper plan to get new bowlers, get them play fc and list a else, there is a difference between t20 bowlers's skill-set and test bowlers skill-set.

This IPL auction and playing 11s have shown the ipl teams does not want proper 140+kmph bowler are more likely to play 130 kmph bowlers with t20 skill-set- Rasik, Ashwini, Sandeep, that new Mi bowler can not recall the name.,prince etc. are the ones IPL are inclined towards

 

Won't worry about T20s, thats a gimmicky format and IPL will keep on producing such bowlers every season who will serve for short period and then wane off. Some might stay for long like Arshdeep. 

 

For Eng tour, they need to trust the existing bowlers. Harshit, Shami, Siraj, Bumrah, Akash & Prasidh. If anyone of them gets injured then include one of Yudhvir, Gurnoor or Sen (Yudhvir is ahead as he had a very good season in Ranji, despite bowling with old ball).

 

[tweaker]

The problem of fast bowling appeared due to injuries to Prasiddh,Sen, who were with the team.

The selectors didn't have foresight and instead of taking risk ,they choose to be safe and selected Mukesh,Avesh etc.

 

In the absence of Shami ,Bumrah ,Umesh if  Prasiddh, Siraj ,Sen,Saini, have been fit our fast bowling would have looked better

[Vk1]

9 hours ago, Need4Speed said:

@express bowling has mentioned above what I would have liked to post anyways..divinding the bowlers per format..

However I would like to add..that we should start looking to groom.. Yudhvir and Gurnoor..they are unpolished for now..but who knows if they work under some expert guidance..can give good results..as we dont want to overwork likes of Siraj..and need some injury covers too..

 

Not sure what Nehra ji did with Siraj and Prasidh but they are looking good atleast in IPL..there is some sting in their bowling..we should try to use his experience in NCA or whatever..if possible..

 

 

 

Bharat Arun, Nehra/ Zaheer should head a body that looks after top 10-15 fast bowlers

[gakgupta]

I have seen prasidh bowling in the last match and he looked class apart ... This guy is serious talent

 

I agree with the fitness and all .. but he has stepped up and the last match in australia would have given him the confidence

 

I would love to see him in Indian colours in all three formats .... But his work load has to be managed

[tweaker]

15 hours ago, gakgupta said:

I have seen prasidh bowling in the last match and he looked class apart ... This guy is serious talent

Prasiddh should be selected only for test as he has fitness issues .

In absence of Bumrah and Shami he can be the bowling spearhead along with Siraj.

If the plays the full IPL ,there are chances he will miss England tour ,due to injury

[Vilander]

What is the transformation back to 130kph trundling ?

[singhvivek141]

On 4/4/2025 at 12:25 AM, gakgupta said:

I have seen prasidh bowling in the last match and he looked class apart ... This guy is serious talent

 

I agree with the fitness and all .. but he has stepped up and the last match in australia would have given him the confidence

 

I would love to see him in Indian colours in all three formats .... But his work load has to be managed

 

Prasidh don't have skills for T20 yet, he is doing well now coz he is being used more in the middle overs and we have an extra bowler in form of impact sub.

 

If he can do well in Tests and ODIs, that should suffice. 

[vvvslaxman]

This is a bigger transition than we thought.

[Forever Indian]

I liked the way Sundar handled Jadeja's fake run starts. He literally turned his face/body to other side and not even looked at Jaddu when there was No run!

Edited July 28, 2025 by Forever Indian

[G_B_]

See ultimately India have won their only test thus far by 300+ runs without Bumrah. The spinners barely took wickets in said test. We have also won the champions trophy without bumrah. In general we are not reliant on pace in the sub continent.

 

There are stats banding about that say Siraj raises his game when no bumrah.

 

100% will have bumrah in the side but india have won without him in recent times. It wont be as bad as people think.

 

Not just Bumrah. Stokes has put in an absolute shift in to dim the result of Anderson retiring. 140 overs as the 4th seamer is no joke. Dont think he bowled as much with Anderson around.

 

Point is people raise their games.

 

[vvvslaxman]

Next gen Bhuv is getting ready

 

 

[Lord]

6 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

Next gen Bhuv is getting ready

 

 

She will bowl at same pace

[G_B_]

On 7/28/2025 at 9:42 PM, G_B_ said:

See ultimately India have won their only test thus far by 300+ runs without Bumrah. The spinners barely took wickets in said test. We have also won the champions trophy without bumrah. In general we are not reliant on pace in the sub continent.

 

There are stats banding about that say Siraj raises his game when no bumrah.

 

100% will have bumrah in the side but india have won without him in recent times. It wont be as bad as people think.

 

Not just Bumrah. Stokes has put in an absolute shift in to dim the result of Anderson retiring. 140 overs as the 4th seamer is no joke. Dont think he bowled as much with Anderson around.

 

Point is people raise their games.

 

If india do win tomorrow then will be profetic.

 

Siraj 100% raises his game when no bumrah.

[tweaker]

After seeing yesterday's perfomance, Ajit Agarkar,Gambhir should value the perfomance of fast bowlers who can bowl at 140 K speeds.

 

Akashdeep wasn't even  bowled ,even though Siraj and Prasiddh had bowled a long spell.

 

Line and length bowlers Anshul,Shardul, Arshdeep were even not considered for playing in 11 

 

The team management, selection committee, coach,captain should identify next set of 140 + kmph fast bowlers 

[vvvslaxman]

10 minutes ago, tweaker said:

After seeing yesterday's perfomance, Ajit Agarkar,Gambhir should value the perfomance of fast bowlers who can bowl at 140 K speeds.

 

Akashdeep wasn't even  bowled ,even though Siraj and Prasiddh had bowled a long spell.

 

Line and length bowlers Anshul,Shardul, Arshdeep were even not considered for playing in 11 

 

The team management, selection committee, coach,captain should identify next set of 140 + kmph fast bowlers 

 

He is focusing on batting depth. DK is echoing my thoughts as well.

 

 

[diga]

26 minutes ago, tweaker said:

After seeing yesterday's perfomance, Ajit Agarkar,Gambhir should value the perfomance of fast bowlers who can bowl at 140 K speeds.

The team management, selection committee, coach,captain should identify next set of 140 + kmph fast bowlers 

 

I am hopeful on Ajit Agarkar.. managed the t20 world cup , transitions of big guns and supporting fast bowlers no matter the result... 

[singhvivek141]

40 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

 

He is focusing on batting depth. DK is echoing my thoughts as well.

 

 

Then start playing Yudhvir, Gurnoor & Harshit.

All 3 can bat and provide depth till now 9. Akashdeep can bat at no 10...while one of Siraj/Bumrah/Prasidh play at no 11 on rotation basis.

[vvvslaxman]

4 minutes ago, singhvivek141 said:

Then start playing Yudhvir, Gurnoor & Harshit.

All 3 can bat and provide depth till now 9. Akashdeep can bat at no 10...while one of Siraj/Bumrah/Prasidh play at no 11 on rotation basis.

I think they should go with variety. One swing bowler, one hit the deck, one   workhorse. something like that. This way they can cover all the bases. There won't be sameness in the attack.  Ishant, SHami, Bumrah is the best combo we have ever had with variety. We need to have an attack something close to that.

[deepdynamo]

Akashdeep has played 10 tests, 28 wickets- average 35
Prasidh has played 6 tests, 22 wickets- average 35

Now whether to persist with these two bowlers further for the 3rd fast bowler role is open to debate. Akashdeep has one match winning act as bowler and couple of good batting hits. Useful cricketer. Prasidh, on the contrary,  offers no seconday skills but have height and bounce that no other Indian fast bowler have at the moment.

Already tried ( and hopefuly rejected) - Mukesh, Kamboj, Shardul
Already tried ( and hopefuly get more chances) - Harshit