singhvivek141 Posted April 10, 2025 Posted April 10, 2025 11 minutes ago, maniac said: I can’t access jio but 1 off game doesn’t tell the whole story just to prove a point. Even Bhuvi hit 145 in T20 once. he has played a grand total of 12 IPL games in 3 yrs. Not one single standout performances. Played 5 in the last 2 yrs. Was injured in the middle of the game iirc once and then dropped for fitness. Same in international debut. Which means he is over trying for pace and not natural. sticking out with consistent pace would be someone like Mayank.Umran or Umesh/Aaron in their prime. Sen clocked 149 in 2022, his breakout season. Clocked 150 in 2023 Bowled 140-148 consistently in the last season..in the previous years IPL forum you can see the posts from the posters who are involved in tracking fast bowlers. Mosher and Lord 1 1
maniac Posted April 10, 2025 Author Posted April 10, 2025 1 minute ago, singhvivek141 said: Sen clocked 149 in 2022, his breakout season. Clocked 150 in 2023 Bowled 140-148 consistently in the last season..in the previous years IPL forum you can see the posts from the posters who are involved in tracking fast bowlers. What’s the point ? Mayank when he bowled 150, rattled the batsmen. Umesh bowled a 150 delivery to AB I think which made the world take attention. Umran had a fiery 5 wicket haul in one of the games where he bowled express. Archer goes for a lot of runs but he still rattles batsmen in between. as I said if he bowled a few deliveries of 150 it wasn’t that appealing. Batsmen played him easily and clearly he couldn’t keep up with the intensity. I don’t think he will be quicker and fitter at 28 which he couldn’t do at 25. Max you will see a 140-145 bowler with better fitness,discipline and some extra skills. That’s the max upside. Not India material based on what has been seen.
singhvivek141 Posted April 10, 2025 Posted April 10, 2025 55 minutes ago, maniac said: What’s the point ? Mayank when he bowled 150, rattled the batsmen. Umesh bowled a 150 delivery to AB I think which made the world take attention. Umran had a fiery 5 wicket haul in one of the games where he bowled express. Archer goes for a lot of runs but he still rattles batsmen in between. as I said if he bowled a few deliveries of 150 it wasn’t that appealing. Batsmen played him easily and clearly he couldn’t keep up with the intensity. I don’t think he will be quicker and fitter at 28 which he couldn’t do at 25. Max you will see a 140-145 bowler with better fitness,discipline and some extra skills. That’s the max upside. Not India material based on what has been seen. Names like Archer, Mayank, Wood, Umran are express category...rare to find. There are only handful of such bowlers in international cricket. Sen belongs to 140-145 range where he has competition. Prasidh, Harshit, Simarjeet all are competing in the same pace bracket. These guys will hurry the batters, may induce false shots, but won't rattle that frequently. Bumrah is the exception but thats because of his delayed release. If you're expecting Sen to be an express bowler, then he is not. He is what we call as a "fast bowler". India material, well I agree that rope is closer to end now. We shouldn't play inexperienced bowlers who are 30+ at all (unless they have a strong secondary skill) Sen, Akash are 28, Yudhvir 27, Prasidh 29. Focus should be on unearthing young fast bowlers who are under 25. Mosher, Lord and Ravi_Shastri 1 2
singhvivek141 Posted April 12, 2025 Posted April 12, 2025 1 hour ago, maniac said: Need to see him in action today PBKS isn't even playing Harpreet Brar...forget about Sen. Lord and Ultimate_Game 2
Ultimate_Game Posted April 26 Posted April 26 What happened to Kuldeep Sen. He looked pretty decent when I last saw him 2-3 years ago.
Lord Posted April 27 Posted April 27 6 hours ago, rkt.india said: With RR Then he’s anyday better than that Brijesh guy
rkt.india Posted April 27 Posted April 27 1 hour ago, Lord said: Then he’s anyday better than that Brijesh guy He has consistently been injured. We don't know how well he is bowling after recovering from injuries. Lord 1
singhvivek141 Posted April 28 Posted April 28 15 hours ago, Lord said: Then he’s anyday better than that Brijesh guy RR has Sushant, he bowled the spell of the tournament in SMAT final and helped JHK won the trophy. In semis as well, he defended some 8/9 runs in the last over (WC to be corrected). Sen is close to 30 now, Yudhvjr is also inching there. Sushant is still 25 y.o. maniac, Lord and Mosher 1 2
Lord Posted April 28 Posted April 28 5 minutes ago, singhvivek141 said: RR has Sushant, he bowled the spell of the tournament in SMAT final and helped JHK won the trophy. In semis as well, he defended some 8/9 runs in the last over (WC to be corrected). Sen is close to 30 now, Yudhvjr is also inching there. Sushant is still 25 y.o. yet they play Deshpande and Brijesh
tapandrun Posted April 28 Posted April 28 2 hours ago, Manucrick said: Sen already played for India why he never picked again Sum of multiple things, but he didnt play much cricket (including domestic) after that series . He played under a tm who was not inclined to develop a good fast bowling line-up , there was a White-ball series vs SA where they brought back Umesh rather than giving some new pacer a chances. No faster bowler survived that time period be it Sen or Umran. That tm preferred 140ish kmph bowlers like Avesh/mukesh... etc... In regards to Sen he does not have white-ball skills to play t20s specially ipl he can bowl 2 good over but also have potential to go for 40 runs in last 2 overs well because he does not have the variations. Then he left mp and moved to TN not sure if he was injured or what but didnt get many games there and was warming the benches. Returned to mp again and then had a knee surgery. And then he plays for RR/Pk those teams does not have the much influence over Ind selection Manucrick and singhvivek141 2
Manucrick Posted April 28 Posted April 28 1 hour ago, tapandrun said: Sum of multiple things, but he didnt play much cricket (including domestic) after that series . He played under a tm who was not inclined to develop a good fast bowling line-up , there was a White-ball series vs SA where they brought back Umesh rather than giving some new pacer a chances. No faster bowler survived that time period be it Sen or Umran. That tm preferred 140ish kmph bowlers like Avesh/mukesh... etc... In regards to Sen he does not have white-ball skills to play t20s specially ipl he can bowl 2 good over but also have potential to go for 40 runs in last 2 overs well because he does not have the variations. Then he left mp and moved to TN not sure if he was injured or what but didnt get many games there and was warming the benches. Returned to mp again and then had a knee surgery. And then he plays for RR/Pk those teams does not have the much influence over Ind selection Dravid bring back all Trundlers including unadkat tapandrun, singhvivek141, Suhaan and 1 other 4
maniac Posted April 28 Author Posted April 28 6 hours ago, Manucrick said: Sen already played for India why he never picked again Always injured Manucrick 1
singhvivek141 Posted April 28 Posted April 28 1 hour ago, Manucrick said: Dravid bring back all Trundlers including unadkat Power of Social Media. Manucrick 1
Manucrick Posted April 28 Posted April 28 5 minutes ago, singhvivek141 said: Power of Social Media. Gg fall for this to karun nair
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