Vicks57 Posted April 14 Posted April 14 1 minute ago, singhvivek141 said: I think the list isn't complete yet. States like Gujarat, Delhi, UP, Chandigarh, Goa, Kerala and many others arent recorded yet. Till 23-24, amongst major economies...Delhi & Gujarat were comfortably ahead with 9.16% & 8.94% growth..against TN which had 8.23% growth. Even UP has 8.51% growth in 23-24. Assam took biggest nosedive. 11.58% in 23-24 to 7.94% in 24-25. Mizoram and Nagaland too had more than 10% of growth till last year. Gujarat is overrated by the words of the fellow gujarati. No matter which development metrics you take, TN is gonna be top 3. I rest my case
singhvivek141 Posted April 14 Posted April 14 1 minute ago, Vicks57 said: Gujarat is overrated by the words of the fellow gujarati. No matter which development metrics you take, TN is gonna be top 3. I rest my case You don't need to be all defensive. Keeping aside our political differences, economically we all want same thing. raki05 1
randomGuy Posted April 14 Posted April 14 33 minutes ago, singhvivek141 said: I think the list isn't complete yet. States like Gujarat, Delhi, UP, Chandigarh, Goa, Kerala and many others arent recorded yet. Till 23-24, amongst major economies...Delhi & Gujarat were comfortably ahead with 9.16% & 8.94% growth, while UP has 8.51% growth in 23-24. TN recorded 8.23% growth in 23-24. Assam took biggest nosedive. 11.58% in 23-24 to 7.94% in 24-25. Mizoram and Nagaland too had more than 10% of growth till last year. UP law and order improvement has been fantastic and economic, infrastructure improvement has been very good. UP and Bihar both deserve the best today as their people , particularly Bihar, do not get the credit but are very hard working people. There is bihari blood and sweat in many infra projects across the length and breadth of the country as well as contributions in IT, govt. services etc. People are extremely hard working. Muloghonto 1
Muloghonto Posted April 14 Posted April 14 7 minutes ago, randomGuy said: UP law and order improvement has been fantastic and economic, infrastructure improvement has been very good. UP and Bihar both deserve the best today as their people , particularly Bihar, do not get the credit but are very hard working people. There is bihari blood and sweat in many infra projects across the length and breadth of the country as well as contributions in IT, govt. services etc. People are extremely hard working. This is why I rated UP as number 1. UP is by far the most improved state in the last 5-10 years on most govt related metrics. raki05 and randomGuy 2
rangeelaraja Posted April 15 Author Posted April 15 14 hours ago, Mariyam said: My experiences are quite the opposite. We have a plant in Vapi and another one near Jamnagar. The ease if doing business , the ease of getting government permits, road connectivity for heavy vehicles, timely freight (by trains) and most of all availability of skilled / semi skilled workers if far better in Gujarat than Maharashtra. Industrial SEZs get subsidised electricity. State Pollution control board is actually monitoring pollution and not just interested in extorting money under some catch all rules like in Maharashtra. The state Highways ( which are under the purview of the State Governments) are far better in Gujarat. Obviously Western Maharashtra, as a sub unit would be comparable to Gujarat. Boisar to Pune / Chakan belt. The interiors of Maharashtra, ie the parts on the Deccan plateau, Vidharbha, Marathwada are extremely back ward without adequate state investment and very monsoon dependent for livelihood even today. Vapi and Jamnagar are major industrial corridors, no doubt. But relying on their development to represent all of Gujarat is like judging all of Mumbai from Lower Parel—just because you're surrounded by high-rises doesn’t mean that Mumbai doesn't have issues with urban squalor. Every time I visit India, I travel by road from Ahmedabad to various Jain pilgrimage sites ( Mahudi, Sankheshwar, Palitana ) and I can tell you firsthand: the quality of roads in interior Gujarat is poor, at least in my experience. The well-maintained stretches that you are probably referring to are mostly part of central government initiatives like the Golden Quadrilateral and Bharatmala, covering places like Patan, Ahmedabad, Bharuch, Surat, Jamnagar, Porbandar, and industrial port zones such as Mundra, Kandla...etc. One of the most credible indicators of effective governance is economic migration patterns. In the South, you often see two-way migration between states like Karnataka, Telangana, and Tamil Nadu—a sign of balanced economic opportunities. But between Gujarat and Maharashtra, it’s largely one-way: Gujaratis moving to Maharashtra, not the other way around. Even affluent Gujaratis often prefer to settle in Mumbai or Pune. You rarely see the reverse. Why is that? What does that indicate ? Because Gujarat has largely missed the services boom that transformed other states. How many major tech, banking, or consulting firms have big offices in Gujarat? And aside from IIT Gandhinagar and Nirma, how many premier engineering institutions can you name that draw national talent? Gujarat’s growth story has been heavily industrial and trade-focused, which has its merits, but it has not created the knowledge economy ecosystem that’s become the backbone of modern India.
Mariyam Posted April 15 Posted April 15 13 hours ago, Muloghonto said: This is why I rated UP as number 1. UP is by far the most improved state in the last 5-10 years on most govt related metrics. Improved yes. But on absolute terms still massively behind on most parameters. Definitely better governed now than under Mayawati and the likes. So a lot of people cite the sudden surge of FII into UP infra projects and industries as a sign of the development of UP. The reality there is that most of the units/offices are all in Noida which though technically UP is essentially Delhi ++. Even the new airport at Jewar, though in UP geographically is essentially to service Delhi. What would really help UP is to develop a few urban centres distinctly from Delhi. Muloghonto 1
ravishingravi Posted April 15 Posted April 15 Top 3 Good 1) Gujarat 2) Maharashtra 3) Tamil Nadu Bottom 3 1) Bihar 2) Andhra 3) Karnataka Mariyam and coffee_rules 1 1
Lone Wolf Posted April 15 Posted April 15 (edited) In which world UP is better than Odisha which is literally most improved state in India by far. I just wish they don't get affected by WB...Some weird takes here. Edited April 15 by Lone Wolf Vicks57 1
raki05 Posted April 15 Posted April 15 4 hours ago, Mariyam said: Improved yes. But on absolute terms still massively behind on most parameters. Definitely better governed now than under Mayawati and the likes. So a lot of people cite the sudden surge of FII into UP infra projects and industries as a sign of the development of UP. The reality there is that most of the units/offices are all in Noida which though technically UP is essentially Delhi ++. Even the new airport at Jewar, though in UP geographically is essentially to service Delhi. What would really help UP is to develop a few urban centres distinctly from Delhi. If you see its same in all states… In karnataka all investment are in Bangalore….. Demand for Telangana has only reached to its peak due to Hyderabad being an economic monster. There are many states where major development happened in only one or 2 cities and whole state is levelled as developed this is wide spread problem and not just limited to UP. But being from UP one thing which really improved exponentially is law and order we never had law and order like this also highways connectivity . Mariyam 1
raki05 Posted April 15 Posted April 15 18 hours ago, Vicks57 said: Gujarat is overrated by the words of the fellow gujarati. No matter which development metrics you take, TN is gonna be top 3. I rest my case TN and most of the southern state has head start in terms of development as after independence most of investment by central government was done in this region considering persistent war threat from China and Pakistan. Even now any big manufacturing ,scientific or sensitive or high value product development initiative would be allocated to south india. So dont take a high ground.
raki05 Posted April 15 Posted April 15 (edited) 21 hours ago, Vicks57 said: Gujarat is overrated by the words of the fellow gujarati. No matter which development metrics you take, TN is gonna be top 3. I rest my case Lol looks like you completely ignore what a fellow tamizha has to say about TN and DMK. Edited April 15 by raki05
Vicks57 Posted April 15 Posted April 15 4 minutes ago, raki05 said: Lol looks like you completely ifnore what a fellow tamizha has to say about TN and DMK. Lol He has qualms about DMK. Not TN development. Retard
Muloghonto Posted April 15 Posted April 15 4 hours ago, Lone Wolf said: In which world UP is better than Odisha which is literally most improved state in India by far. I just wish they don't get affected by WB...Some weird takes here. I think odisha is the most improved state since independence. But Pattnaiks have been at it in Odisha since the early 80s. UP I believe has done better than odisha in terms of improvement in the last 10-15 years. raki05 1
raki05 Posted April 15 Posted April 15 (edited) 3 hours ago, Vicks57 said: Lol He has qualms about DMK. Not TN development. Retard Lol and whatever bs you talk about bjp and open threads daily basis , because of your goodwill for them !! Do you even see irony in your statement? Last warning to you stop abuses , if you have this abusive issue go see a hakim i will not tolerate it next time. Edited April 15 by raki05
mishra Posted April 15 Posted April 15 6 hours ago, Lone Wolf said: In which world UP is better than Odisha which is literally most improved state in India by far. I just wish they don't get affected by WB...Some weird takes here. In every sense UP is best state. UP under no circumstances be better than Bihar, but it is. It doesnt have problem of low fertilty rate. It doesnt have law and order issue. Methods of UP administrators is being used in every other state to maintain law and order. Glorious past is being revived. On economic front, UP can never technically catch up Gujrat or Maharashtra but it will pottentyially become biggest economy among various States of India raki05 1
raki05 Posted April 15 Posted April 15 2 hours ago, mishra said: In every sense UP is best state. UP under no circumstances be better than Bihar, but it is. It doesnt have problem of low fertilty rate. It doesnt have law and order issue. Methods of UP administrators is being used in every other state to maintain law and order. Glorious past is being revived. On economic front, UP can never technically catch up Gujrat or Maharashtra but it will pottentyially become biggest economy among various States of India + Regarding Odisha… One of my friend from Cuttack mentioned that Naveen was reaping the benefits of his father great work for long…. In past so many years he was only reaping the rewards of Biju Patnaiak’s legendary image and great work he has done for upliftment of poors. People really got fed up of Naveen also he dint groom next leadership.
mishra Posted April 15 Posted April 15 10 minutes ago, raki05 said: + Regarding Odisha… One of my friend from Cuttack mentioned that Naveen was reaping the benefits of his father great work for long…. In past so many years he was only reaping the rewards of Biju Patnaiak’s legendary image and great work he has done for upliftment of poors. People really got fed up of Naveen also he dint groom next leadership. Let 2024/2025 data come out. UP may already become number 2 ranks state GSDP wise. Naveenji is nice man. He delegated most work to his Secretary. However it was all done during his tenure. He deserves credit for Bringing Orissa where it is today. Unlike leadership of states like TN or West Bengal, He knew he doesn’t need to do regionalism or separtism. Let Peoples vote be counted and bowed to peoples vote. Great Man! raki05 1
Mariyam Posted April 15 Posted April 15 7 hours ago, Muloghonto said: I think odisha is the most improved state since independence. But Pattnaiks have been at it in Odisha since the early 80s. UP I believe has done better than odisha in terms of improvement in the last 10-15 years. In 1999, there was a category 4 cyclone/hurricane/typhoon and Orissa had a staggering 300,000 persons lost their lives. Millions their livelihood. Not to mention utter destruction of infrastructure in coastal areas. In 2019, another category 4 cyclone , Fani, hit coastal Orissa. Of course there was improved weather prediction due to our satellites, but the Administration was prepared. There were 60 odd casualties where most of them were people who ventured out despite of having being told not to. That is good governance! Muloghonto and BacktoCricaddict 2
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