Vilander Posted April 21 Posted April 21 A second and complete religious territory divide ? What else can be done how ?
straighttalk Posted April 21 Posted April 21 19 hours ago, coffee_rules said: O avaidya aghnani , do you know what Hindutva means? It means the essence of being a Hindu. There is no difference between Hinduism and Hindutva. Hindutva is a political response from Hindus to predatory abrahamic religions when its existence is threatened . It is how Hinduism has survived all through the Islamic and Christian invasions for more than 2000 years. So, shut it! It is not hatred that drives Hindutva. It is Dharmo Rakshati Rakshitah! It means Dharma protects those who protect it". Mlecchas like you will never understand Hahaha..what load of bs. It is a form of nationalism based on establishing Hindu hegemony in India..it calls for violence against minorities and women as written by its proponent...it celebrates eradication of other religion ..it is farthest from Dharma and more akin to Nazism as they targeted Jews and you target Muslims. And stop spoiling thr good name of Sanskrit by uttering it with your tongue..nothing different from those vermin Islamic terrorists using Quaran to justify killings.
straighttalk Posted April 21 Posted April 21 1 minute ago, Vilander said: A second and complete religious territory divide ? What else can be done how ? This might work...but I suggest more like the cow belt as one country and the rest as another country.
coffee_rules Posted April 21 Posted April 21 14 minutes ago, straighttalk said: Hahaha..what load of bs. It is a form of nationalism based on establishing Hindu hegemony in India..it calls for violence against minorities and women as written by its proponent...it celebrates eradication of other religion ..it is farthest from Dharma and more akin to Nazism as they targeted Jews and you target Muslims. And stop spoiling thr good name of Sanskrit by uttering it with your tongue..nothing different from those vermin Islamic terrorists using Quaran to justify killings. Ok, keep your head in sand. Nothing to discuss. The eradication angle comes from Islam and Dravidians who want to eradicate Hindusim. Hindutva is what is saving Hindus in riots. Without Bajrang Dal type organizations with Gujjars/Jaats , we see a lop-sided casualties in Hindus now. But, it will change. You have no idea of Sanskrit to even say it . Imbecile mleccha you are. Dharma doesn't say go kill others and eradicate them, but also doesn't say play dead when others try to kill and eradicate. The Dharmo rakshite rakshitaha is the second line after Ahimsa paramo dharmaha. Gandhi and leftist idiots like you are aware and propgagate that Hinduism sayd Ahimsa paramo dharmaha. Hindutva sets the narrative right.
mishra Posted April 21 Posted April 21 1 hour ago, straighttalk said: Hahaha..what load of bs. It is a form of nationalism based on establishing Hindu hegemony in India..it calls for violence against minorities and women as written by its proponent...it celebrates eradication of other religion ..it is farthest from Dharma and more akin to Nazism as they targeted Jews and you target Muslims. And stop spoiling thr good name of Sanskrit by uttering it with your tongue..nothing different from those vermin Islamic terrorists using Quaran to justify killings. What donyou mean by Hindu hegemony? India was made for Hindus. Pakistan was created for Muslims. coffee_rules 1
straighttalk Posted April 21 Posted April 21 1 hour ago, mishra said: What donyou mean by Hindu hegemony? India was made for Hindus. Pakistan was created for Muslims. Nope ..that's twisting of history. Jinnah wanted a separate state for Muslims. India or the plurality of Indian except the HINDUVTA wing wanted a secular India..and last I heard India is a secular country with a Hindu majority where people of all faith have EQUAL rights..so no India was not made for Hindus.
straighttalk Posted April 21 Posted April 21 3 hours ago, coffee_rules said: Ok, keep your head in sand. Nothing to discuss. The eradication angle comes from Islam and Dravidians who want to eradicate Hindusim. Hindutva is what is saving Hindus in riots. Without Bajrang Dal type organizations with Gujjars/Jaats , we see a lop-sided casualties in Hindus now. But, it will change. You have no idea of Sanskrit to even say it . Imbecile mleccha you are. Dharma doesn't say go kill others and eradicate them, but also doesn't say play dead when others try to kill and eradicate. The Dharmo rakshite rakshitaha is the second line after Ahimsa paramo dharmaha. Gandhi and leftist idiots like you are aware and propgagate that Hinduism sayd Ahimsa paramo dharmaha. Hindutva sets the narrative right. Yes so we agree that your twisted philosophy is criticizing Islam and trying to be a violent radical fundamentalist bigoted group..God speed...that's why I said with your demented philosophy you guys are more like Nazis and Islamic terrorists
straighttalk Posted April 21 Posted April 21 On 4/19/2025 at 10:26 AM, rangeelaraja said: Most BJP supporters are extremely unhappy with how Bengal has been left high and dry - this is not a recent occurrence - even during state elections - BJP workers and their families were victims of extreme violence from TMC goons. In my opinion BJP has just let everybody down especially - the no.1 and no.2 . It’s particularly disappointing when ALOT more could be done with 2 decisive mandates and 10 years of uninterrupted ruling… and now inching towards 15 years. I think having a far RW alternative to BJP at the national level will totally change the electoral dynamics and also decisively stem and reverse the demographic change and illegal immigration. While all opposition parties are competing for fake secularism which basically translates to appeasing a large minority votebank - nobody is competing to appease the Hindu votebank - its just BJP by itself. This is the most astonishing aspect of Indian politics. There is a risk that BJP may lose considerable seats because of vote splitting - but it will be forced to change its own politics and bring reforms with much greater speed. If BJP / RSS is smart enough - they should create such an offshoot - and let it pursue that constituency and then form a strategic alliance with the so called offshoot . BJP can be the softer face for international image and PR while the offshoot can force the agenda. This is not fanciful game theory. Look at the state of Bengal, Kerala, Assam. The cancer will gradually consume India if the dynamics don’t change. The cancer has a 1400 year old history of dismembering or turning to dust whatever it touches. Our incomparably glorious culture, civilization… everything will be buried like has happened to the once great Persian civilization that was consumed by the cancer. BJP / RSS have not shown that capability on their own. Hinduism survived under centuries or Mughal rule and British rule..when it was at biggest risk..now there is 0 risk or Hindusim being extinct in India..it will and always remain the predominant religion and culture of India...
coffee_rules Posted April 21 Posted April 21 8 minutes ago, straighttalk said: Yes so we agree that your twisted philosophy is criticizing Islam and trying to be a violent radical fundamentalist bigoted group..God speed...that's why I said with your demented philosophy you guys are more like Nazis and Islamic terrorists Why criticisizing Islam is a sin? Is it a perfect religion? self-defence is not violence . Your every post reeks of Hindu hatred with propgandist material distributed by jihadi and missionary orgs. We should invoke the Godwin's law since you brought up Nazis into the discussion. GTH. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law
coffee_rules Posted April 21 Posted April 21 10 minutes ago, straighttalk said: Hinduism survived under centuries or Mughal rule and British rule..when it was at biggest risk..now there is 0 risk or Hindusim being extinct in India..it will and always remain the predominant religion and culture of India... The threat is not to Hindusim in India, but to Hinduism in WB. It will soon be another Pakistan and Hindus will cease to exist, just like in the Eastern border country.
coffee_rules Posted April 21 Posted April 21 18 minutes ago, straighttalk said: Nope ..that's twisting of history. Jinnah wanted a separate state for Muslims. India or the plurality of Indian except the HINDUVTA wing wanted a secular India..and last I heard India is a secular country with a Hindu majority where people of all faith have EQUAL rights..so no India was not made for Hindus. Secular was added to the preamble of the constitution during Emergemcy with 0 opposition to the change. Our Constition was largely based on Hindutva ethos with sarva dharma vadapav, which is not working well for India.
rangeelaraja Posted April 21 Author Posted April 21 (edited) 4 hours ago, straighttalk said: Hahaha..what load of bs. It is a form of nationalism based on establishing Hindu hegemony in India..it calls for violence against minorities and women as written by its proponent...it celebrates eradication of other religion ..it is farthest from Dharma and more akin to Nazism as they targeted Jews and you target Muslims. And stop spoiling thr good name of Sanskrit by uttering it with your tongue..nothing different from those vermin Islamic terrorists using Quaran to justify killings. 1) Can you tell me what happened to Kashmiri Pandits in the 80s and 90s ? Why did they have to flee the Kashmir valley - what religion / cult forced that ? - 2) What is happening in Bengal to Hindus ? What is happening to Hindus in Bangladesh ? - Why are Hindus being subjected to such violence ? 3) Why does the so called " religion of peace " blare that their God is the only God and true god in a secular country like India on loudspeakers every morning ? This is not even done in SA where this violent cult originated. Were loud speakers available 1400 years back ? 4) Why is that despite having so many mosques and land, "peacefuls" prefer to PRAY on the roadside in large numbers ??? 5) Do you know why Sikhism ( Sikh took origins ) to protect whom against whom ? Edited April 21 by rangeelaraja coffee_rules, diga, Pratik77 and 1 other 2 2
straighttalk Posted April 21 Posted April 21 1 hour ago, rangeelaraja said: 1) Can you tell me what happened to Kashmiri Pandits in the 80s and 90s ? Why did they have to flee the Kashmir valley - what religion / cult forced that ? - 2) What is happening in Bengal to Hindus ? What is happening to Hindus in Bangladesh ? - Why are Hindus being subjected to such violence ? 3) Why does the so called " religion of peace " blare that their God is the only God and true god in a secular country like India on loudspeakers every morning ? This is not even done in SA where this violent cult originated. Were loud speakers available 1400 years back ? 4) Why is that despite having so many mosques and land, "peacefuls" prefer to PRAY on the roadside in large numbers ??? 5) Do you know why Sikhism ( Sikh took origins ) to protect whom against whom ? 1. Pak sponsored terrorist who used Islam to foster terror in a Muslim majority state signed to India by a Hindu king. India militarily controlled the situation. While Pandits were systematically killed and is similar to genocide ..it was done by a foreign power terrorist. By that logic you would say India supported Multi Bahini to kill Muslims in BD in 1971 ..true but religion was not the main driver. Absolutely condemn the terrorism and fully support Indian army in hunting this down. 2. I do not care about another country s citizens...so will not comment as it doesn't matter to me. As for West Bengal..the core issue is illegal immigration and resultant increase in Muslim population. This should be on BSF to prevent this rather than expecting Mamata to do anything. She should but would not. Bengali Hindus are not at risk and all these riots are done not to benefit Mamata but to consolidate the Hindu votes against her. She should however stop the blatant discrimination against Hindus and appeasement for Muslims. But true to BJP IT cell there is a lot of rumor and embellishments. And before crying about Bengal ..take a hard look at how people get killed for eating beef, how riots are state sponsored in some states, and continual harassment. 3. They can blare what they want..do you or I care. If you want you can say something similar and absolute. Just shouting something doesn't make it right. They can believe what they want to believe and you can believe what you want to believe. I don't like the sound pollution so yes I support banning those blaring the noise in Masjids. 4.this point and no 3 are nuisance and irritants ..you can call it how in 21st century Hindus still defecate in open fields ...and use cow dungs for holy things or hell even cure for cancer....not sure what is your point but if you want me to say it I too find it irritating. So ban it or ask them to do it within Masjids. 5. Yes there is a historical basis for what you are saying. But that is again in the Mughal age. What is the risk right now of Hindus - unless a foreign power invades India. The major risk is terrorism..where sporadically Indiand are killed and ISI uses religion..treat it as a national security issue not target peaceful Muslim Indian citizens...if you find a violent terrorist..arrest him hang him for all I care. Difference between you and me is I equally hate a Hindu rioter and Hindu fundamentalist as well as a Muslim one..while you all think just because Islam has some radical followers..it is ok for Hindus to kill and eradicate people from their land without checking whether they are at fault or not. While you rightfully criticize Muslim violence..you lose sight that you are calling for violence too not just self defense. Pre emotive violence against peaceful citizens. The entire govt army and police is pro Hindu..what exactly are you afraid of. Where in India in next five or 10 years will we see a Hindu genocide in India.
Muloghonto Posted April 22 Posted April 22 (edited) 7 hours ago, straighttalk said: Erase how..that's the question I am asking..entitled to do what same way we are erasing christianity in the west along with liberalism. Generational money game. Same way we have nearly erased leftism from india. Why should i explain all my tricks to the enemy, when YOU are the enemy ? All i will say is, who are the GREATEST exterminators of Islamic demon worship ? Russians. Who are besties with Russians ? us. Who have also decided to wipe out your pedo prophet worship ? us. You can seethe and cope, but you have forfeited right to be seen as a religion, same way nazis have forfeited right to be seen as a party. one way or another, we are going to erase islam.Cope and seethe, but that is on the cards and as i said, we will open gay nightclub in makkah before you die.Watch and see. Edited April 22 by Muloghonto
rangeelaraja Posted April 22 Author Posted April 22 58 minutes ago, straighttalk said: 1. Pak sponsored terrorist who used Islam to foster terror in a Muslim majority state signed to India by a Hindu king. India militarily controlled the situation. While Pandits were systematically killed and is similar to genocide ..it was done by a foreign power terrorist. By that logic you would say India supported Multi Bahini to kill Muslims in BD in 1971 ..true but religion was not the main driver. Absolutely condemn the terrorism and fully support Indian army in hunting this down. 2. I do not care about another country s citizens...so will not comment as it doesn't matter to me. As for West Bengal..the core issue is illegal immigration and resultant increase in Muslim population. This should be on BSF to prevent this rather than expecting Mamata to do anything. She should but would not. Bengali Hindus are not at risk and all these riots are done not to benefit Mamata but to consolidate the Hindu votes against her. She should however stop the blatant discrimination against Hindus and appeasement for Muslims. But true to BJP IT cell there is a lot of rumor and embellishments. And before crying about Bengal ..take a hard look at how people get killed for eating beef, how riots are state sponsored in some states, and continual harassment. 3. They can blare what they want..do you or I care. If you want you can say something similar and absolute. Just shouting something doesn't make it right. They can believe what they want to believe and you can believe what you want to believe. I don't like the sound pollution so yes I support banning those blaring the noise in Masjids. 4.this point and no 3 are nuisance and irritants ..you can call it how in 21st century Hindus still defecate in open fields ...and use cow dungs for holy things or hell even cure for cancer....not sure what is your point but if you want me to say it I too find it irritating. So ban it or ask them to do it within Masjids. 5. Yes there is a historical basis for what you are saying. But that is again in the Mughal age. What is the risk right now of Hindus - unless a foreign power invades India. The major risk is terrorism..where sporadically Indiand are killed and ISI uses religion..treat it as a national security issue not target peaceful Muslim Indian citizens...if you find a violent terrorist..arrest him hang him for all I care. Difference between you and me is I equally hate a Hindu rioter and Hindu fundamentalist as well as a Muslim one..while you all think just because Islam has some radical followers..it is ok for Hindus to kill and eradicate people from their land without checking whether they are at fault or not. While you rightfully criticize Muslim violence..you lose sight that you are calling for violence too not just self defense. Pre emotive violence against peaceful citizens. The entire govt army and police is pro Hindu..what exactly are you afraid of. Where in India in next five or 10 years will we see a Hindu genocide in India. 1) So called "Peacefuls" did it Pak or no Pak - it was "peacefuls who perpratated that taking inspiring from a book the openly promotes violence against non-believers in various verses. There is a 1400 year old history to this barbarism by this barbaric cult. Do you know what was the religion of Persia before invaders ? It was Zoroastrianism that got entirely annihiliated by violence and forced conversations by this barbaric political cult. 2) With all due respect you don't have the honesty and integrity to acknowledge that "peacefuls" are a barbaric cult - their 1400 history has been like that - I agree its not all of them and its not the people - its the so called faith - which is not really a faith but a political cult. The praying on the road thing is not limited to India - they do it everywhere - in UK, Europe - everywhere - it is a show of assertiveness and control - so true to a political cult. The barbaric cult that is all about territorial control, violence..and alot worse. They have destroyed every civilization and culture that they have invaded - India was able to resist due to the bravery of the Chattrapati Shivaji Maharaj and Sikh warriors. If not for oil and gas discovery - the barbaric cult would have remained piss poor. Standard hypocritical practice by the cancerous political cult ( masquering as a religion ) 1) When they are in majority - they say - we are an "Peaceful" nation - only "Peaceful " laws apply here. Minorities are gradually entirely wiped out - like we see in Pak and Bangladesh and even in several African nations 2) When they are in minority - they evoke secularism, fight minority rights, create ghettos and destroy the local culture like they are doing in UK and the West. Its clear that you are a Mleecha - it is a shame that your ancestors decided to stay back in my great country.....you would have been way happier in Pak, I feel sorry for you.
Lone Wolf Posted May 26 Posted May 26 (edited) Good God they are getting trolled mercilessly by both RW and LW.. So many Boomer uncles in the clip cardiomaxxing after chai Samosa party carbsloppers In full attendance RSS needs to take a long hard look at themselves and improve massively. Kick out Boomers for starters...and stop carrying these sticks fgs.... Tricolour would have been so much better aesthetic wise. Josh Jazba non existent. School going kids do it much better Edited May 26 by Lone Wolf
Nikhil_cric Posted May 26 Posted May 26 22 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said: Good God they are getting trolled mercilessly by both RW and LW.. So many Boomer uncles in the clip cardiomaxxing after chai Samosa party carbsloppers In full attendance RSS needs to take a long hard look at themselves and improve massively. Kick out Boomers for starters...and stop carrying these sticks fgs.... Tricolour would have been so much better aesthetic wise. Josh Jazba non existent. School going kids do it much better Their ideology will never work even for their own stated objectives
Lone Wolf Posted May 26 Posted May 26 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Nikhil_cric said: Their ideology will never work even for their own stated objectives Ideology is alright and even vision is lucrative... But bc how are they supposed to attract younger generation through these antics? To be honest they would’ve had far more presence if they’d dressed as the Axe Gang from Kung Fu Hustle these outfits just look cringeworthy. Hindu civilization has aura & legacy and this is basically a mockery of it. Look at their slogans... No Hindu deity name can be heard of.. No Har Har Mahadev or anything. Aesthetic ki toh chudi padi hai puri Edited May 26 by Lone Wolf
coffee_rules Posted May 26 Posted May 26 12 minutes ago, Nikhil_cric said: Their ideology will never work even for their own stated objectives And what are its stated objectives and ideology?
coffee_rules Posted May 26 Posted May 26 (edited) 36 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said: Ideology is alright and even vision is lucrative... But bc how are they supposed to attract younger generation through these antics? To be honest they would’ve had far more presence if they’d dressed as the Axe Gang from Kung Fu Hustle these outfits just look cringeworthy. Hindu civilization has aura & legacy and this is basically a mockery of it. Look at their slogans... No Hindu deity name can be heard of.. No Har Har Mahadev or anything. Aesthetic ki toh chudi padi hai puri They are not a fancy dress organization, Bajrang Dal or VHP rallies have better optics. They enthuse middle-class youth mostly 12-13 yr olds , most of them drop out by 18. Only the inspired ones continue. All their numbers are in 24-40 year olds mostly who do the heavy lifting. They do have a kick-ass anthem though Edited May 26 by coffee_rules
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