coffee_rules Posted May 1 Author Posted May 1 Timing of it is horrible. Unless they say this is effective from next census - 2031
Lord Posted May 1 Posted May 1 1 hour ago, coffee_rules said: Timing of it is horrible. Unless they say this is effective from next census - 2031 Even then the announcement could have waited in current scenario. Everyone expected Pahalgam attacks to be priority. raki05 1
ravishingravi Posted May 1 Posted May 1 2 hours ago, Lord said: Even then the announcement could have waited in current scenario. Everyone expected Pahalgam attacks to be priority. Announcement is of caste Census. Can you explain what's the big deal here ?
Lord Posted May 2 Posted May 2 18 hours ago, ravishingravi said: Announcement is of caste Census. Can you explain what's the big deal here ? Wrong timing coffee_rules 1
coffee_rules Posted May 2 Author Posted May 2 18 hours ago, ravishingravi said: Announcement is of caste Census. Can you explain what's the big deal here ? Misplaced priorities. Why did it have to be announced when the whole nation is expecting for India to react to Pahalgam attacks. raki05, Lord and Gollum 2 1
Vickydev Posted May 2 Posted May 2 Imagine if they actually intended for Caste renumeration and somebody mistyped it Mariyam and coffee_rules 2
coffee_rules Posted May 2 Author Posted May 2 12 minutes ago, Vickydev said: Imagine if they actually intended for Caste renumeration and somebody mistyped it They didn't mistype it. It is in fact renumeration in spirit. ravishingravi and Vickydev 2
ravishingravi Posted May 2 Posted May 2 1 hour ago, coffee_rules said: Misplaced priorities. Why did it have to be announced when the whole nation is expecting for India to react to Pahalgam attacks. Actually caste Census literally wouldn't change anything. It's data point. It just gets political brownies for bjp.
coffee_rules Posted May 2 Author Posted May 2 41 minutes ago, ravishingravi said: Actually caste Census literally wouldn't change anything. It's data point. It just gets political brownies for bjp. Of course, what they do with the data is what that matters. Will they use it get better benefit reach/spread for sub-categories of SC/STs/OBCs then it is good. If they use it to go beyond 50% cutoff, force representation using the data and do what Congress is forcing it to do, then it is an issue. Just Census is not an issue. But they opposed even taking the Caste Census and relented after opposition. They went back on Farm laws after protests. They might do whatever the oppistion wants. That's the crux of the problem. Lord 1
coffee_rules Posted May 2 Author Posted May 2 48 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said: ATG the legend the Visionary... Based GigaChad Brom Koi chad -waad nahin. He didn't want unqualified people for govt jobs. Even IG and RaGa (Data) opposed Mandal commission report and didn't want to do OBC reservation. Everything changed after Janataparty got into power since 1977, the Yadavas, JDUs, Devilalas, got a taste of power using Arakshan politics and now everybody is fighting to outdo others in Jai Bheem posturing. Congress is awwal number ke kaminey isme.
Lord Posted May 2 Posted May 2 1 minute ago, coffee_rules said: Koi chad -waad nahin. He didn't want unqualified people for govt jobs. Even IG and RaGa (Data) opposed Mandal commission report and didn't want to do OBC reservation. Everything changed after Janataparty got into power since 1977, the Yadavas, JDUs, Devilalas, got a taste of power using Arakshan politics and now everybody is fighting to outdo others in Jai Bheem posturing. Congress is awwal number ke kaminey isme. What's wrong with that? Lone Wolf 1
Lone Wolf Posted May 2 Posted May 2 9 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: Koi chad -waad nahin. He didn't want unqualified people for govt jobs. Even IG and RaGa (Data) opposed Mandal commission report and didn't want to do OBC reservation. Everything changed after Janataparty got into power since 1977, the Yadavas, JDUs, Devilalas, got a taste of power using Arakshan politics and now everybody is fighting to outdo others in Jai Bheem posturing. Congress is awwal number ke kaminey isme. “A society that rewards merit and gives every individual an equal chance to rise will be a society that endures and prospers.” Source: The Discovery of India by Chad Nehruji
Gollum Posted May 2 Posted May 2 सरकार तुम्हारी सिस्टम हमारा #ThankYouRahulGandhi pic.twitter.com/AxDnBcwX86 — Supriya Shrinate (@SupriyaShrinate) May 1, 2025 Apt.
Gollum Posted May 2 Posted May 2 1 hour ago, ravishingravi said: Actually caste Census literally wouldn't change anything. It's data point. It just gets political brownies for bjp. Fire has been lit, irreversible change set in motion. Only goes one way from here if history is an indicator.
coffee_rules Posted May 2 Author Posted May 2 (edited) 35 minutes ago, Lord said: What's wrong with that? 28 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said: “A society that rewards merit and gives every individual an equal chance to rise will be a society that endures and prospers.” Source: The Discovery of India by Chad Nehruji Nothing wrong with that, it was the public sentiment of that time as well. Politics has changed since the 80s. One can't be all idealistic and say we will remove all reservations. In fact Congress got 99 sets because they ran a fake campaign that BJP will remove reservations and change the constitution with 4 sau paar. All parties do aarakshan rajneeti. Nehru had other flaws , but not this one. Edited May 2 by coffee_rules Lord 1
Lone Wolf Posted May 2 Posted May 2 (edited) 8 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: Nothing wrong with that, it was the public sentiment of that time as well. Politics has changed since the 80s. One can't be all idealistic and say we will remove all reservations. In fact Congress got 99 sets because they ran a fake campaign that BJP will remove reservations and change the constitution with 4 sau paar. All parties do aarakshan rajneeti. Nehru had other flaws , but not this one. Easy for NRIs to say bro... Things are bound to get worse for GC's in the country. I think most of the talent will soon leave the nation for better opportunities abroad if it hasn't already. This country is cooked. Edited May 2 by Lone Wolf coffee_rules 1
coffee_rules Posted May 2 Author Posted May 2 10 minutes ago, Gollum said: Fire has been lit, irreversible change set in motion. Only goes one way from here if history is an indicator. Caste was being asked even in earlier census, but it was for Govt use to distribute funds etc for certain communities. Only SC/STs were documented and rest all were marked General. That data was used by govt and not made public. Now, it has been made mandatoty to ask for caste and that data will be made public.. It all depends on how Govt sets policies using that data. If they do what RaGa and his system wants, India will be doomed!! Hope better sense prevails. "Colonial ruler Britain began an Indian census in 1872 and counted all castes until 1931. However, independent India since 1951 only counted Dalits and Adivasis, who are referred to as scheduled castes and tribes, respectively. Everyone else's caste was marked as general"
coffee_rules Posted May 2 Author Posted May 2 5 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said: Easy for NRIs to say bro... Things are bound to get worse for GC's in the country. I think most of the talent will soon leave the nation for better opportunities abroad if it hasn't already. This country is cooked. Nothing to do with NRIs. I agree about the status of GC in India, and it is a sad reality of Caste politics. BC, ek doosre se bhari padh raheinhain ... jaati jaati karne mein!!. Lord and Lone Wolf 2
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