rkt.india Posted May 19 Posted May 19 2 hours ago, Lord said: yesterday they chased down 200 without leaving it to middle order Small ground. even par score at FSK for the last two years is over 210. 180 is par score at SMS, Jaipur.
crictime Posted May 19 Posted May 19 16 hours ago, tapandrun said: Apart from 2 openers and Archer, everything else have been garbage from rr. They clearly lost 2-3 games which were easily set-up because of their mo, Jurel and Parag has themselves have messed-up 2-3 matches, plus in their batting they have only 1 overseas batter , do not think this is a good tactic They have played with 3 overseas bowlers, because they do not have another overseas batter to pick from, in auction they got just 1 overseas batter that too a lower middle order batter who is not as proven as pollard or Russell and not be moved up the order. Indeed Jofra Archer did bowl well in many matches. Fielding was a major weakness with RR having dropped nost catches this season. The bowling stats would defnintely have been better if the fielders had only dropped few catches. Like you mentuoned, RR are a overseas batsman short for sure - the large vaccum created by not retaining Jos Buttler. They were aware thatbthey need his replacement yet they did not get one. That was a management blunder on the auction day with so many weeks to think about once they released him. They did mess up with some of the chases. tapandrun 1
Ultimate_Game Posted May 19 Author Posted May 19 (edited) 7 hours ago, Gollum said: How does Jaiswal switch between tests and T20s so easily? At such a young age....... Generational player and should be the first batter on the team sheet across all formats along with Bumrah. It's criminal he hasn't gotten into ODIs and is not a regular in T20Is. BCCI is mis-managing him and hope we don't lose him Edited May 19 by Ultimate_Game cricspirit and Gollum 2
tapandrun Posted May 19 Posted May 19 9 hours ago, rkt.india said: How? Parag strike rate 168, jurel 150. Their batting has been decent but they have to chase big scores most of the times. Parag got only one 50+ score this season, jurel has 2 in including this match Both have not been able to finish the matches which were already in rr's hand. they were unable to start moving the score at a decent pace. Most of the impetus in runs have come when the team has already lost the match, there were already hitting/scoring below the required rate. Even this PK vs rr match, rr were 94/1 in 7 overs. VS rcb they were 110/2 in 9 over chasing 205 VS Lsg they were 94/2 in 10 over chasing 180 Ultimate_Game 1
Ultimate_Game Posted May 19 Author Posted May 19 6 minutes ago, tapandrun said: Parag got only one 50+ score this season, jurel has 2 in including this match Both have not been able to finish the matches which were already in rr's hand. they were unable to start moving the score at a decent pace. Most of the impetus in runs have come when the team has already lost the match, there were already hitting/scoring below the required rate. Even this PK vs rr match, rr were 94/1 in 7 overs. VS rcb they were 110/2 in 9 over chasing 205 VS Lsg they were 94/2 in 10 over chasing 180 Jurel plays too many dot balls and plays just good enough to get you beat. Parag has a higher potential as he has contributed with the ball. But both of them need to step up as batters. tapandrun 1
vvvslaxman Posted May 20 Posted May 20 All said and done there is room for improvement. Jaiswal being a superlative Test player should try to be a bit more calculative. It is not like he is going like train. He just knocks it around then picks the worst ball to go after and gets out. . He is not Priyansh Arya, Suryavanshi or even Abhishek to gift his wicket. Prabhsimran is doing well this season after becoming a bit more caluclative. Picking the right ball to go after otuside power play. Jaiswal's strike rate in the middle overs this season is 135 which is exactly the same as Virat Kohli's middle over strike rate. He has faced 139 balls in th emiddle overs. 77 singles. 15 fours 6 sixes. 34 dot balls. About 111 balls out of 139 balls were either single or dot. It is eerily similar to Kohli's 109 singles out of 195 balls in the middle overs this season. Kohli made 0 or 1 in 154 balls out of 195 balls. Only difference though is Jaiswal gives a head start in the first 6. Kohli doesn't. He is not Rahane level bad in m overs whose strike rate is only 110 this season in that phase. Kohli's power play strike rate 153 Jaiswal's power play strike rate 176 If i have to draw parallel Gill middle over strike rate this season 164 Sai Sudarshan middle over strike rate this season 149. Someone who is not the same outside power play. So there is some scope for improvement o Comparison M overs strike rate Suryavanshi 238 Abhishek 236 Arya 206 Pooran 205 A Mhatre 185 SKY 179 Prabhsimran 173 S Iyer 164 tapandrun 1
Texan Posted May 20 Posted May 20 On 5/18/2025 at 12:12 PM, Ultimate_Game said: Agree that bowling has been poor. But in this case I'm talking about openers putting RR in a winning position despite their bowling. The middle order's messed up chases like scoring 23 off 3 overs, 18 off 2 overs, 9 off 1 over, and today openers giving them a total of 89 off 6 overs! And every time they had wkts in hand. Bowling needs improvement but surely middle order should've chased most of these totals. Occasional hiccup is acceptable but not messing every single chase. Exactly. Yes, bowling has not been great, but in battting conditions, many bowling teams have struggled. It is the middle and lower middle order that has struggled. Hetmyer has been terrible, hasn't finished any games. Jurel is a very average T20 player and other players they have tried have not worked. They have been in winnable positions so many times and had they finished them all, they could have been in playoff contention. Instead they are in wooden spoon contention. Openers did a fabulous job, couldn't have asked for more. Ultimate_Game 1
crictime Posted May 21 Posted May 21 Finally RR middle order could stitch the chase together quite well yesterday against CSK .
BacktoCricaddict Posted May 21 Posted May 21 51 minutes ago, crictime said: Finally RR middle order could stitch the chase together quite well yesterday against CSK . No pressure. Nothing to lose. Nothing to win. Not a good barometer.
crictime Posted May 21 Posted May 21 1 hour ago, BacktoCricaddict said: No pressure. Nothing to lose. Nothing to win. Not a good barometer. Still they would have been criticized if they hadn't. I would say fair to praise them if they did. BacktoCricaddict 1
Chakdephatte Posted May 22 Posted May 22 On 5/18/2025 at 8:25 PM, Nikhil_cric said: Let down by the bowling more than anything Just realized they had four batters with 20+ sixes. How common is it? Jurel is surprising here. I think they had a good season with bat. Although, budget constraints because of overspending on Jurel is what lead to their poor auction.
Nikhil_cric Posted May 22 Posted May 22 2 hours ago, Chakdephatte said: Just realized they had four batters with 20+ sixes. How common is it? Jurel is surprising here. I think they had a good season with bat. Although, budget constraints because of overspending on Jurel is what lead to their poor auction. Yeah that's true. Overspending on Jurel hurt them elsewhere. I feel Theeksana was a very poor pick too tapandrun 1
cowboysfan Posted May 22 Posted May 22 5 hours ago, Chakdephatte said: Just realized they had four batters with 20+ sixes. How common is it? Jurel is surprising here. I think they had a good season with bat. Although, budget constraints because of overspending on Jurel is what lead to their poor auction. bigger culprit was Hetmyer,failed in every chase. tapandrun 1
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