EnterTheVoid Posted June 12 Posted June 12 2 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said: Who said? His comments were to do with the fuselage and how it was connected to other parts of the plane. Completely different scenario to the Air India flight. It looks like the plane struggled to climb. This happens when - The engines do not produce enough thrust - A potential stall
Laaloo Posted June 12 Posted June 12 1 minute ago, EnterTheVoid said: His comments were to do with the fuselage and how it was connected to other parts of the plane. Completely different scenario to the Air India flight. It looks like the plane struggled to climb. This happens when - The engines do not produce enough thrust - A potential stall Could this maybe a maintenance issue? Maybe a few birds hit the engine?
coffee_rules Posted June 12 Posted June 12 12 minutes ago, Tillu said: Why do we never hear such major aviation disasters in western countries when they generally operate the most number of planes. Do they have better flight safety standards and protocols? No thrust after take off is an aviation issue, could be a bird hit.
diga Posted June 12 Posted June 12 1 minute ago, coffee_rules said: No thrust after take off is an aviation issue, could be a bird hit. Can both engines stall after a bird hit?
EnterTheVoid Posted June 12 Posted June 12 (edited) 24 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: Even AP has now reported. More casualties on ground also. This is terrible . This could happen to any plane anybody. . Life is so vulnerable. I have had fear every flight during take off , or or turbulence esp after 9/11. I hope there is no sabotage, just plain tragedy Turbulence is nothing to fear. Turbulence just means that you don't have smooth air flow over the wings, hence the bumps. This doesn't look like anything to do with Turbulence. It looks like the plane struggled to climb for whatever reason and essentially fell out of the sky. A plane flies forward. The aircraft over the wings makes it fly forward. This plane looks like it fell out of the sky. With it's nose pointed up. Edited June 12 by EnterTheVoid
Lord Posted June 12 Posted June 12 All 242 dead. Om shanti We rightly went to war for Pahalgam victims. But this needs an internal operation too. Heads must roll Lone Wolf 1
bowl_out Posted June 12 Posted June 12 Waking up to this horrible news Om Shanti Boeing has major safety concerns. Really scared to take Boeing aircrafts these days coffee_rules 1
coffee_rules Posted June 12 Posted June 12 24 minutes ago, EnterTheVoid said: Turbulence is nothing to fear. Turbulence just means that you don't have smooth air flow over the wings, hence the bumps. This doesn't look like anything to do with Turbulence. It looks like the plane struggled to climb for whatever reason and essentially fell out of the sky. A plane flies forward. The aircraft over the wings makes it fly forward. This plane looks like it fell out of the sky. With it's nose pointed up. Thanks , I have read up about turbulence and as you say there is nothing to worry there. You read news about missing planes (Malaysian) and some Air France a few years ago that either went missing or crashed after fill flight. So these things play in your mind. OMG. Minister just confirmed Vijay Rupani was in the plane! Om Shanti to all passengers. Hard to forget this day. Seems surreal. Laaloo 1
Lone Wolf Posted June 12 Posted June 12 33 minutes ago, wanted_desi said: When was the last time you heard anything prior to this for 787, it has been around for 13-14 years? Millions of hours of flying time. Likes of China barely orders Boeing anymore.. france and Germany prioritize Airbus. Here is thread of Boeing disasters or near misses
coffee_rules Posted June 12 Posted June 12 55 minutes ago, diga said: Boeing stock tells a different story now We just survuved a workers strike with many HC impact. Now, this will cause more job losses. I have to update my resume now!! This is nothing compared to lives lost. diga 1
coffee_rules Posted June 12 Posted June 12 36 minutes ago, EnterTheVoid said: His comments were to do with the fuselage and how it was connected to other parts of the plane. Completely different scenario to the Air India flight. It looks like the plane struggled to climb. This happens when - The engines do not produce enough thrust - A potential stall How can both engines stall? Highly unlikely that it was hit by a flock of birds. What are the other reasons for thrust failure where the plane fails to gain height? Lord 1
EnterTheVoid Posted June 12 Posted June 12 6 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: Thanks , I have read up about turbulence and as you say there is nothing to worry there. You read news about missing planes (Malaysian) and some Air France a few years ago that either went missing or crashed after fill flight. So these things play in your mind. OMG. Minister just confirmed Vijay Rupani was in the plane! Om Shanti to all passengers. Hard to forget this day. Seems surreal. The Air France crash happened because the First Officer stalled the wing. When you stall the wing, you stop the flow of airflow over the wing. At that point, you stop flying and you start falling. But yeah, I understand your concerns.
diga Posted June 12 Posted June 12 5 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: We just survuved a workers strike with many HC impact. Now, this will cause more job losses. I have to update my resume now!! This is nothing compared to lives lost. Man ... thought you were in the non-commercial part of Boeing
diga Posted June 12 Posted June 12 3 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: How can both engines stall? Highly unlikely that it was hit by a flock of birds. What are the other reasons for thrust failure where the plane fails to gain height? On Boeing 737 Max , there was a software glitch which supposedly caused the engine stall Quote Forty-four seconds after takeoff, as the main gear lifted off the runway, the angle of attack (AoA) sensor on the left side of the aircraft's nose sustained damage, possibly from a bird strike. This damage caused the sensor to send faulty readings, leading the Maneuvering Characteristics Augmentation System (MCAS) to falsely detect an imminent stall. In response, MCAS repeatedly commanded the horizontal stabilizer to push the aircraft's nose downward. However, since MCAS is inactive during takeoff configuration, it only began functioning once the flaps were retracted.[13] Approximately one minute into the flight, the first officer, following the captain's instructions, retracted the flaps. Within 10 seconds of this action, the autopilot disengaged, and the aircraft started to descend. The captain directed the first officer to report a "flight control" problem to the control tower.[14] By the second minute, the MCAS had angled the horizontal stabilizer sharply downward, pitching the aircraft into a dive. Although the pilots managed to briefly counteract the nose-down attitude, the aircraft continued to lose altitude
EnterTheVoid Posted June 12 Posted June 12 4 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: How can both engines stall? Highly unlikely that it was hit by a flock of birds. What are the other reasons for thrust failure where the plane fails to gain height? The plane can stall even if all the engines are running. The plane will still keep flying if all the engines stop running. The key thing to keep an airplane flying is to have airflow over the wings. For whatever reason, there was no air flow over the wings. Hence, the fall. coffee_rules 1
coffee_rules Posted June 12 Posted June 12 3 minutes ago, diga said: Man ... thought you were in the non-commercial part of Boeing Yes, nothing to do with aviation dept, with military side of things. But, impacts globally .
Lord Posted June 12 Posted June 12 16 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said: Likes of China barely orders Boeing anymore.. france and Germany prioritize Airbus. Here is thread of Boeing disasters or near misses Even 9/11 attacks included Boeing Lone Wolf 1
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