IndianRenegade Posted June 13 Posted June 13 (edited) 8 hours ago, EnterTheVoid said: I agree with the Twitter quote. He is spot on. population alone means nothing when many are still on the brink of poverty & just above it. Population becomes a liability at that point. Edited June 13 by IndianRenegade
velu Posted June 13 Posted June 13 58 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said: RAW played a role in End of Monarchy/Shah regime in Iran... It was a massive blow to Pak and US during the period. not sure whether india played any role in the islamic revolution .. if anything then mostly tis a fiction MY SOURCES told me something like shah was losing support from usa ( esp after the Vietnam war ) and british were actually hell bent of removing the shah because they feared the he will completely remove brtish control over irans oil ( previous shah was removed by uk/usa after he nationalized Iranian oil .. they later brought the last shah as the default ruler through a coup and gained some control over oil reserves ) there were so many anti-sha factions like leftists , mujhadeens ( hardcore religious ) , khomeini ( moderately religious ) , etc .. but khomeini got lucky in the end because his views were more acceptable by most of the anti-shah factions khomeini was kicked out by saddam from shia heartland in iraq and went to france with the support from Britain raki05 1
Vickydev Posted June 13 Posted June 13 Seems a couple of the missiles have made it past and struck Tel Aviv
Vickydev Posted June 13 Posted June 13 Iron domes supposedly isnt that great at intercepting balistic missiles but they have other systems in place. Seem to be overworked today
IndianRenegade Posted June 13 Posted June 13 1 minute ago, Vickydev said: Iron domes supposedly isnt that great at intercepting balistic missiles but they have other systems in place. Seem to be overworked today Nothing is full proof, quantity has a quality of its own. India did well, but we also don't know the number of projectiles fired at us.
IndianRenegade Posted June 13 Posted June 13 (edited) All of US moves make perfect sense now. Reproachment with Sirya so they could use Syrian air space, appeasement of Pakistan so they can use Pak bases if needed. Either the Pak knew about this before hand & chose to time terror attacks knowing full well US would come to save Pak, all their polictical problems will be solved. or it was pure coincidence. Edited June 13 by IndianRenegade raki05 and Austin 3:!6 2
Vancouver Posted June 13 Posted June 13 I did not expected Iran to be this successful in retaliation, unlike 2024 this time they managed to penetrate IDF air defence. Also Israel started this, they cannot play victim this time.
Lone Wolf Posted June 14 Posted June 14 (edited) 44 minutes ago, ravishingravi said: Nah they are intercepting 150 Ballistic missile barrage at 90% success rate. It's comfortably best in the world already. Israeli MRSAM reportedly intercepted lone Shaheen ballistic Missile in Sirsa Edited June 14 by Lone Wolf
New guy Posted June 14 Posted June 14 7 hours ago, Vancouver said: I did not expected Iran to be this successful in retaliation, unlike 2024 this time they managed to penetrate IDF air defence. Also Israel started this, they cannot play victim this time. What success? A couple of missiles hit some random citizens and buildings. Meanwhile israel literally took out top Iran military leaders and scientists Dude iran has literally a doomsday clock in public counting down towards Israel's destruction. Their leader calls for their destruction every day. They have funded Hamas, Hezbollah, Houthis and Syrians to attack Israel from all sides for decades. What Israel is doing is self defense. If they let Iran build nukes it's guarantees their destruction. Blaming this on Israel is funny.
Trichromatic Posted June 14 Posted June 14 9 hours ago, velu said: not sure whether india played any role in the islamic revolution .. if anything then mostly tis a fiction MY SOURCES told me something like shah was losing support from usa ( esp after the Vietnam war ) and british were actually hell bent of removing the shah because they feared the he will completely remove brtish control over irans oil ( previous shah was removed by uk/usa after he nationalized Iranian oil .. they later brought the last shah as the default ruler through a coup and gained some control over oil reserves ) there were so many anti-sha factions like leftists , mujhadeens ( hardcore religious ) , khomeini ( moderately religious ) , etc .. but khomeini got lucky in the end because his views were more acceptable by most of the anti-shah factions khomeini was kicked out by saddam from shia heartland in iraq and went to france with the support from Britain Wifey? velu and Lord 2
crictime Posted June 14 Posted June 14 8 hours ago, Vancouver said: I did not expected Iran to be this successful in retaliation, unlike 2024 this time they managed to penetrate IDF air defence. Also Israel started this, they cannot play victim this time. Israel has effectively delayed thsi nuclear enrichment program by atleast a year. Also, the loss of scientists who had the technological knowhow and were masterminds of this program delays the program further. Then the loss of chiefs in military is a big blow. What Iran will acheive in their retaliation is very miniscule compared to the objectives that Israel has acheived. And Israel has also attacked second time yesterday , so it is not that only Iran will keep attacking. Israel has already accomplised the immediate goals.
Lone Wolf Posted June 14 Posted June 14 @ravishingravi we need need far more AD units along with extremely Higher numbers in interceptors and launchers. I think that's why more S400 units are being considered. Need Mass production of Akash SAM. Kusha ML1 (range 150) will be inducted in 2027-28... Extended ML2 and ML3 will come later. Israelis have set up a benchmark today... Even if lot of their stuff is on demand lower cost supplied by US itself. ravishingravi 1
kepler37b Posted June 14 Posted June 14 9 hours ago, Vancouver said: I did not expected Iran to be this successful in retaliation, unlike 2024 this time they managed to penetrate IDF air defence. Also Israel started this, they cannot play victim this time. Even in gulf war in 1991, many missiles landed in Israel. ravishingravi 1
Lone Wolf Posted June 14 Posted June 14 (edited) The exo atmospheric kill by Arrow system jointly developed by US and Israel... A thing of beauty indeed Edited June 14 by Lone Wolf
kepler37b Posted June 14 Posted June 14 Persia as a civilization can be a friend of bharath. But the current islamic state of Iran is 100 percent shuddh jihadi rashtra. One wonders why some indians are tooter are saying "Iran is our friend saar".
singhvivek141 Posted June 14 Posted June 14 41 minutes ago, kepler37b said: Persia as a civilization can be a friend of bharath. But the current islamic state of Iran is 100 percent shuddh jihadi rashtra. One wonders why some indians are tooter are saying "Iran is our friend saar". Maybe coz they feel, if new Iran govt becomes another US proxy. Then India will be under severe pressure from all sides. US's influence in Iran, will propel Pak completely to US camp...and they will crush the BLA movement as well. Yunus is anyway hell bent on destroying Pagladesh. India will be forced to either choose US or side with Russia (&China as RIC). Neither is in our favour.
Serpico Posted June 14 Posted June 14 1 hour ago, kepler37b said: Persia as a civilization can be a friend of bharath. But the current islamic state of Iran is 100 percent shuddh jihadi rashtra. One wonders why some indians are tooter are saying "Iran is our friend saar". Do you have a Time machine to bring back non islamic Persia? No matter who is incharge of Iran, it will be an Islamic country. Atleast right now it is independent to US influence and can be useful for us to reduce dependency on US
Lone Wolf Posted June 14 Posted June 14 (edited) 3 hours ago, kepler37b said: But the current islamic state of Iran is 100 percent shuddh jihadi rashtra. As long as these Jihadis aren't Pro US Pak and don't offer strategic Depth to Pakistan like 60's and 70's... I am absolutely fine with Mullah regime. Indians need to shed humanity and always look at bigger picture. Overall this regime hasn't done anything against our interests. I am against them acquiring Nukes but is inevitable if there is no regime change. This is Israel's last ditch attempt. If Mullah regime survives Iran will possess nukes a few months down the line. Edited June 14 by Lone Wolf
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